Running: Treadmill vs outside

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  • lastchance2010
    lastchance2010 Posts: 494 Member
    This is just my own experience but I find the treadmill much more challenging that running outdoors. The treadmill forces me to keep a steady pace, even if it's faster than my usual slow plodding jog. When I am outside, I fall into my usual pace and start enjoying the scenery, etc.

    Yep this ^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    exactly my experience :bigsmile:
  • lastchance2010
    lastchance2010 Posts: 494 Member
    Running outside is a whole different beast.

    Personally, I run faster, more easily, outside than on a treadmill. It's unnatural to keep one EXACT steady pace the whole duration of a run. When you're running outside, you go a little faster, then a little slower, as needed. In my case, that evens out to a much faster average pace than when I run on a treadmill. I can easily run one mile in under 8 minutes outside, but if I try running at an 8 minute mile pace on the treadmill, I'm ready to fall off after three minutes!

    That's not to say you can't improve on a treadmill. Try adjusting the speed as you run. Start off at your normal pace, then bump it up a little for a minute, and depending on how you're feeling bump it up a little bit more for another minute, or back down a little slower, and keep adjusting it.

    Hmmm...I like this advise. I run m-f on the treaddy and rarely on the weekends outside, I avg like 14:20 mile run on the treadmill. I"m curious now to see how I would do on actual pavement. That just motivated me to run tomorrow morning. Thanks! :drinker:
  • nauticaboo
    nauticaboo Posts: 38 Member
    I did the first 5 weeks of C25K on a treadmill, and when I started running outside, I was able to almost match my treadmill pace, and that was with adding a jogging stroller with 40 lbs of weight in it. I also added an injury, due to the differences in impacts and poor foot mechanics. So just another thing to think about. Depending on how much weight you're carrying, you might want to start on a treadmill, but I would give yourself a couple of weeks to switch over to outside running before your test if you do.
  • lastchance2010
    lastchance2010 Posts: 494 Member
    Dreadmills

    LOL Dreadmill....:laugh:
  • MelissaGraham7
    MelissaGraham7 Posts: 406 Member
    Have to agree with many on here - treadmill vastly different and is actually easier (it propels your feet for you whereas outside you have to do it yourself). But there is a good use for the treadmill, particularly when you are in Arizona heat. Of course, if your test will be outside, you need to do some running outside - but an outdoor track doesn't have hills, etc. which is a huge plus. So, I would say you can use your treadmill for the majority of your summer training but DO go get outside early early morning when you can and definitely when it cools off a bit. Getting acclimated to the heat is something you'll want to do at least 2 weeks before your test (experts say that 2 weeks of regular running outside, gradually bumping up) will get you acclimated. You are only talking about 1.5 miles which is not that long in the heat. So, use the treadmill definitely to stay in shape and get outside when you can. ALso, yes, incline your treadmill about 2 degrees as that supposedly makes it a little more difficult and more in comparison with outside running. An outside running track for your test is really IDEAL conditions. Practice on that type of track if you can also. Good luck on the new job!!
  • jickalina
    jickalina Posts: 43 Member
    Wow, I'm really surprised to hear the varied responses on whether the treadmill is easier or harder for people. I've always thought it was easier. I've been doing C25K for about 4 weeks now and in the beginning, on a friends' gym pass, I jumped on the treadmill for a run. I shocked myself with how long I lasted and how great I kept pace, breathing etc. I thought, woohoo, I must be getting better at this whole running thing. Then two days later back at the outdoors and BAM. Hard as ever to find my rhythm, keep up with my distance, pushing myself to keep going, etc. The treadmill really propels you forward, not to mention all the other conditions (inclines, uneven ground, heat) aren't there that make it harder to keep running.
  • scottb81
    scottb81 Posts: 2,538 Member
    For building running fitness the treadmill is fine. However, you have to be used to running outside to translate that fitness into a good outdoor timed run. So, do both. Try and get outside at least once a week and more often as the big day approaches.
  • Lisseth03
    Lisseth03 Posts: 518 Member
    i'm curious, what is the job of a lifetime that requires this?
    I myself just started running outside, and I find it is a bit harder (for me) but a lot more enjoyable
    but obviously everyone is different.
    I am a Sergeant for the AZ Department of Corrections. The academy Commander offered me a job to be an academy Sergeant, which I have always dreamed of doing. The job requires strong physical fitness skills and the ability to train and motivate new cadets.

    corrections?! that's sic! I want to be a corrections officer, going to school in the fall :)
  • mandypizzle
    mandypizzle Posts: 633 Member
    It is very different. And I hear a lot that if you incline, it is the same as running indoors but from MY personal experience there is no comparison. It works totally different muscles in different ways. Both are great workouts but I ALWAYS feel like I got a better workout when I run outside. BUT my neighborhood is extremely hilly and that is probably a huge reason why. And I despise running on the tredmill. :) I guess it all comes down to how they will be testing you. I also agree with those who mentioned the Couch to 5K. It is a great running program and will really help you lower your time.
  • Romans624
    Romans624 Posts: 822
    I preferred the treadmill because of the a/c and honestly its generally easier.

    The thing you run on can honestly go faster than your legs are moving, so you are kind of "hopping" slower than the treadmill thinks and calculates you are. When you run outside, your muscles and legs have to adjust to uneven pavement, hills, etc and you are going your TRUE speed. I think the treadmill artificially reflects a higher speed than the runner is necessarily doing.

    Outside is harder. It will keep you in the safe zone to do it there.
  • Steve_Runs
    Steve_Runs Posts: 443 Member
    If you are going to run on the treadmill, set the incline between 1.5 and 2 to best simulate outside running.
  • Outside! :wink: The scenery is sooo much better.
  • Beastette
    Beastette Posts: 1,497 Member
    No indoor tracks in your area?
  • ancia03
    ancia03 Posts: 43
    Treadmill when the weather is crap - like in the north east of England lol. Outside when it's ok
  • iammegs
    iammegs Posts: 38 Member
    If you have to keep a specific pace, look up songs with that many beats per minute. I've used LoLo but also just looked up songs on my own - it really does make all the difference, whether you're running inside or out.
  • JaniceK73
    JaniceK73 Posts: 17 Member
    Can't share any real pearls of wisdom that haven't been shared but am inspired by your story and wish you the best of luck!
  • Natsume
    Natsume Posts: 33 Member
    I am in the Air Force, and have to run 1.5 miles every 6 months as well.
    Here is what works for me:
    1)If on the treadmill, I have the incline no LESS than 5.0. This way I am running harder, and it makes running on flat ground easier. This makes the 1.5 mile run see "shorter," when in actuallity there is less incline.
    2)If outside, I ALWAYS have a heart rate monitor. I set it to beep when my heart rate is too high or low. It helps keep me moving with a decreased risk to hurt myself.
    3)Mix things up. Run outside (I am stationed in Tucson AZ, and the weather isn't THAT bad), sprint drills, ride a bike, go to kick boxing class (dropped a min off my time in a month surprisingly), walk, swim or roller blade. Depending on your weight, running can do more harm than good. Besides, mixing things up will also reduce repetative movement injuries (ex: runners knee.) I NEVER do the same thing. If on the tread mill, I do one of two things.
    -Set the incline to 5.0 and do what I call "sprint drills." Set the speed to something doable (5.4 at the moment), but hard, sustain it for 1-3 min., drop down to 3.0(speed), wait till my heart rate gets to the 130s, increase the speed to 0.1 higher than the last "sprint." It improves my speed.
    -Set the incline to 5.0 and each min increase the incline by 0.5. This simulates hiking. It improves my endurance, and I find it more enjoyable.

    In all honesty, anything is better than nothing, and as long as your heart rate is in your "goal zone" you are doing your body good. I wish you the best. :flowerforyou:
  • DarlingNikki2011
    DarlingNikki2011 Posts: 287 Member
    However the test is administered, train that way. It would suck to train on a treadmill and then have your test outside on a hot & muggy day, and not do well.

    This sounds like good advice! While running on the treadmill may not hurt you, it may not adequately prepare you for running outside on natural terrain. Good luck either way!
  • jawheb
    jawheb Posts: 295 Member
    My elliptical is way off than running outside.
    I live in TX and it's HOT always. We wear shorts
    in winter. I used to run outside in the mornings
    but since I'm getting old my knees hurt. My BFF
    was nice enough to give me her machine. I miss
    running outside. I ran 8 miles every day in an hour and
    20 mins. Now it's 3 miles in 45 minutes on elliptical.
    Go figure
  • tlblood
    tlblood Posts: 473 Member
    Treadmills will help your cardio which is half the battle, but it will not condition your leg muscles the same way.

    This explains why my first C25K run yesterday left me a bit sore...first time I've run outside. It was much more enjoyable than on the treadmill.
  • Divagettinfitin2011
    Divagettinfitin2011 Posts: 500 Member
    Bump
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