Dear American friends in Boston and New York
HanyaBreak
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Hi there,
The Mr and I are 11 days away from the holiday we have been dreaming of for ages. A week in Boston followed by a week in New York. We are big MLB and NFL fans and I am exceptionally excited.
HOWEVER.
I would really appreciate some guidance and tips on what to eat and how I can keep an eye on my calorie limit. I know it is a holiday and I should have lots of fun, but I have really tried to change my attitude to how I eat and am very pleased with my progress so far. And I can't do a 2 week cheat/treat day!
I think I am getting into a bit of a panic as all my friends keep saying how different portion sizes are to the UK. Those on the MFP system, do you have any tips when eating out? Are there some places I should avoid? I know we won't be doing the fast food thing, more looking forward especially to the seafood Boston has to offer.
Like I said, any advice or tips are most welcome :-D
The Mr and I are 11 days away from the holiday we have been dreaming of for ages. A week in Boston followed by a week in New York. We are big MLB and NFL fans and I am exceptionally excited.
HOWEVER.
I would really appreciate some guidance and tips on what to eat and how I can keep an eye on my calorie limit. I know it is a holiday and I should have lots of fun, but I have really tried to change my attitude to how I eat and am very pleased with my progress so far. And I can't do a 2 week cheat/treat day!
I think I am getting into a bit of a panic as all my friends keep saying how different portion sizes are to the UK. Those on the MFP system, do you have any tips when eating out? Are there some places I should avoid? I know we won't be doing the fast food thing, more looking forward especially to the seafood Boston has to offer.
Like I said, any advice or tips are most welcome :-D
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Portion sizes are indeed larger in the US. Drinks especially, such as sodas, are enormous, as are the amounts of ice they will put in said glasses. DO NOT feel as though you must clean your plate. When indulging in seafood dishes, just use common sense. Most places will offer various cooking methods- fried, grilled, broiled, pan seared, etc. Grilled and broiled will be your best bets.
There isn't anywhere you need to avoid, just be aware the amount you are eating. Also, you are going to two cities that are very walkable. You should be able to burn some of those excess goodies off! I live between Boston and NYC (in Connecticut) and am certain you'll have a blast!0 -
The only advice I have is to make sure you catch a game at Fenway. It is truly a life-making experience. Stay for the end. It's awesome.
Also, maybe a side drive up to Maine could provide some healthy options...lots of good healthy seafood if you stay away from butter and mayo.0 -
Pretty much any restaurant is going to have lighter healthier fare. the big thing that I do when eating out is paying attention to the sauces. We love to slather things with mayonnaise and high calorie sauces. The portion size is much bigger here. I think the easiest thing to do is to realize that at many restaurants you are served at least two servings of everything, so if you can just think about it that way it makes a huge difference.0
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You will spend a lot of your time walking- which helps. While traveling I feel breakfast and lunch can be the most difficult because you are more likely to "just grab something". I would start the day right and healthy every day as a rule. Allow yourself a bagel and cream cheese since come on it's NY, but don't fall for the processes and nutritionally void things you find a breakfast buffets and the like. Oatmeal is a person favorite or I just have fresh fruit.
To me there are just things that are not worth it- that granola bar you did not really need, the stale bagel at the breakfast buffet, the pizza in the tourist area that was not very good, etc... Look for balance.0 -
The only advice I have is to make sure you catch a game at Fenway. It is truly a life-making experience. Stay for the end. It's awesome.
Also, maybe a side drive up to Maine could provide some healthy options...lots of good healthy seafood if you stay away from butter and mayo.
We are going to 2 games at Fenway and I am well rehearsed for Sweet Caroline. What happens at the end?!? No, don't tell me very excited!0 -
I'm in Boston and it is really a terrific walking city, so do your best to burn calories that way and enjoy a few treats since it is vacation! Everything in moderation.0
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Fenway Park is amazing but there is a lot of tempting food everywhere so try to eat a healthy lunch or dinner *before* you head to the park so you're less likely to go grabbing for the Fenway Franks and fries.
You'll walk a lot in Boston. It's a very walkable city.
Seafood in Boston is a wonderful thing. Stick to seafood restaurants vs. just ordering seafood dishes off some pub menu. (Not that pub food tastes bad here, but it's typically not prepared as healthily as in a seafood restaurant.) I like Legal Seafoods.
Have a great time!
PS: Routing for the Yankees is bad for your health. Always route for the Sox!0 -
Fenway Park is amazing but there is a lot of tempting food everywhere so try to eat a healthy lunch or dinner *before* you head to the park so you're less likely to go grabbing for the Fenway Franks and fries.
You'll walk a lot in Boston. It's a very walkable city.
Seafood in Boston is a wonderful thing. Stick to seafood restaurants vs. just ordering seafood dishes off some pub menu. (Not that pub food tastes bad here, but it's typically not prepared as healthily as in a seafood restaurant.) I like Legal Seafoods.
Have a great time!
PS: Routing for the Yankees is bad for your health. Always route for the Sox!
Agreed on all accounts here, too. Especially the last one! Both are terrific walking cities...you will get a ton of good exercise just walking around to everything.0 -
Thanks for this advice. Feel less panic-stricken.
Get a good breakfast in, avoid grabbing something for the sake of it. Walk, walk, walk
That is a really helpful point about being served 2 portions of everything, that puts things into perspective for me. l will keep a close eye on the sauces. Not a big one for sauces anyway so I will probably seem like a very boring tourist!
The Mr keeps threatening trying the two types of Philly cheese steak (doing a day trip to see Mets @ Phils) which I am running very fast in the opposite direction from! I don't think any amount of walking will burn a bite of one of them off! I will remember to have the occasional treat though.0 -
walk everywhere!!!! i go to school in boston, and i literally walk everywhere because its just so easy!0
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Portion sizes are indeed larger in the US. Drinks especially, such as sodas, are enormous, as are the amounts of ice they will put in said glasses. DO NOT feel as though you must clean your plate. When indulging in seafood dishes, just use common sense. Most places will offer various cooking methods- fried, grilled, broiled, pan seared, etc. Grilled and broiled will be your best bets.
There isn't anywhere you need to avoid, just be aware the amount you are eating. Also, you are going to two cities that are very walkable. You should be able to burn some of those excess goodies off! I live between Boston and NYC (in Connecticut) and am certain you'll have a blast!
I live in NY. Agree with what above poster said about enormous portion sizes. Don't get sucked into thinking you have to finish it all. Doggie bag half of it is what I would do or split an entree perhaps.0 -
The Mr keeps threatening trying the two types of Philly cheese steak (doing a day trip to see Mets @ Phils) which I am running very fast in the opposite direction from! I don't think any amount of walking will burn a bite of one of them off! I will remember to have the occasional treat though.
Being a Philly girl, I know how delicious (and massive) they are!0 -
While in Boston, be sure to go to the top of the Prudential building to look out over the city. It's a cool view. Enjoy!0
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Thanks for this advice. Feel less panic-stricken.
Get a good breakfast in, avoid grabbing something for the sake of it. Walk, walk, walk
That is a really helpful point about being served 2 portions of everything, that puts things into perspective for me. l will keep a close eye on the sauces. Not a big one for sauces anyway so I will probably seem like a very boring tourist!
The Mr keeps threatening trying the two types of Philly cheese steak (doing a day trip to see Mets @ Phils) which I am running very fast in the opposite direction from! I don't think any amount of walking will burn a bite of one of them off! I will remember to have the occasional treat though.
I highly reccomend Dalessandros in Roxborough west of Philly. And it's nearly as bad for you, but the chicken philly is excellent. If you want a vaguely healthier alternative while he tries the Philly, get a Roast Pork. (t's served with spinach or broccoli rabe and less cheese and fat overall, although the same delicious bread. You should at least try a Philly sandwich once in your life...I promise.0 -
Fenway Park is amazing but there is a lot of tempting food everywhere so try to eat a healthy lunch or dinner *before* you head to the park so you're less likely to go grabbing for the Fenway Franks and fries.
You'll walk a lot in Boston. It's a very walkable city.
Seafood in Boston is a wonderful thing. Stick to seafood restaurants vs. just ordering seafood dishes off some pub menu. (Not that pub food tastes bad here, but it's typically not prepared as healthily as in a seafood restaurant.) I like Legal Seafoods.
Have a great time!
PS: Routing for the Yankees is bad for your health. Always route for the Sox!
Haha, love it!0 -
I'm originally from NYC and there are healthy eating options EVERYWHERE. you can find a make your own salad place on almost every other corner in midtown, and like other people have already said, there will always be healthy options at restaurants. avoid chain restaurants with the mega sized portions and seemingly healthy options (olive garden salad is NOT a good option!) and stick to local places instead. you must try the classics like a true new york slice of pizza, bagel and cream cheese and a good deli sandwich (katz's!) but as long as you mix it up with lots of fresh veggies and tons of walking you should do great!0
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I've not long got back to the UK after a couple of weeks in MA. Went to Boston for the day and it was fantastic,though walking through Quincy Market was a challenge in itself !
Try the swordfish, it's very good.0 -
1; study the transit system in NYC, you'll get lost less often.
2; best time to hit up the empire state building is the dinner hours
3; stay away from chinese and Italian food, except for lunch. and ask for smaller portions.
4; a stadium hot dog is a must.
5; hit up central park. a lot.
google restaurants and check out their ratings at urbanspoon and other restaurant rating websites.0 -
Fenway Park is amazing but there is a lot of tempting food everywhere so try to eat a healthy lunch or dinner *before* you head to the park so you're less likely to go grabbing for the Fenway Franks and fries.
You'll walk a lot in Boston. It's a very walkable city.
Seafood in Boston is a wonderful thing. Stick to seafood restaurants vs. just ordering seafood dishes off some pub menu. (Not that pub food tastes bad here, but it's typically not prepared as healthily as in a seafood restaurant.) I like Legal Seafoods.
Have a great time!
PS: Routing for the Yankees is bad for your health. Always route for the Sox!
This. Legal Seafoods is one of my favorites, and the location on the waterfront has a great view (there are several locations throughout the city). Not really in line with your mission, but cannoli at Modern Pastry is fantastic, and they filled on order, not pre-filled like other pastry shops. Worth the splurge.0 -
This is all so great, thank you. Making a number of notes0
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IN NYC all restaurants and fast food places are required to post the calories of all their menu items. This will help you make decisions.0
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IN NYC all restaurants and fast food places are required to post the calories of all their menu items. This will help you make decisions.
That is good to know. Something we are lacking in the UK.0 -
You and your Mr. could split whatever you order (Philadelphia Cheesesteak...yummmm) and ask for an extra clean plate. We do that all the time. Restaurants here are used to that.0
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If you're visiting, I CANNOT recommend the New York Pass enough. I went to NYC for the first time earlier this year - we got the three day pass and it paid for itself in the first day.
We made a concerted effort to get around and do/see as much as possible which meant we were all over the place and walking lots - things like getting free cheesecake (naughty but nice) in Brooklyn meant we'd then walk back across the Brooklyn bridge for example. Another thing that came free on the pass was a bike tour of Central Park - it was honestly one of my favourite things in the whole tour and again helped burn a few cals. You need to get there early though!
You do end up walking loads, and it really makes a difference. Don't be afraid to treat yourself to small luxuries (esp the sandwiches) because on your 'good' days there are amazing - I do mean amazing - healthier options in Manhattan delis. I still dream of some of the salad bar options there compared to the UK! Be good when you can - you do get sick of rich food after a day or two - and you'll be fine. Enjoy it - I loved the place from start to finish!0 -
I live in New York City. Compared to other places in the US, people who live in Manhattan are relatively slender, so it's possible to stay on track here whereas it might be harder in some other American cities.. Here are a my tips for NYC:
- Try to eat at "local" spots rather than "tourist" restaurants. The local restaurants are used to catering to Manhattan's models, actors, and professionals so they often serve portion sizes that are half of what is served in tourist restaurants. Tourist restaurants typically cater to the average American diet and focus on "good value" over "good quality."
- If you're staying at a hotel, tell your concierge that you are "a foodie" or would like a "farm to table" spot. Depending on your budget, those types of restaurants often have fantastic veggie dishes and less fried food. For example Blue Hill in the village is fabulous.
http://www.bluehillfarm.com/food/blue-hill-new-york/menu
- Don't feel like you have to finish what's on your plate. If you look around at the NY women in a restaurant, you'll see they rarely clean their plate.
- Order an appetizer as your main course so that you have two apps instead of an app and a main. Very common to do that here.
- if you want to try one of the famous NY delis, share an entry. For example, the sandwiches at Stage Deli or Carnegie or Katz are just ridiculous. I've never once eaten my own order there. I've always shared.
- Don't feel bad about being picky, asking lots of questions about the menu, demanding dressing or sauce on the side, etc. American service protocol is that the customer is always right. I've been to France many times and in France it's practically sacrilege to ask them to change the menu in any way. That's not the case here. Think of that scene in "When Harry Met Sally" where Sally redesigns the whole dish. It's totally acceptable to be high maintenance like that in NYC.
- Walk as much as you can. Almost everywhere in Manhattan is safe to walk during the day or night. Watch the pickpockets near Times Square, Empire State Building and Ground Zero, but you should feel comfortable walking everywhere. Most of the city is designed in a grid so it's really hard to get lost.
It's going to be hot, so drink lots of water. Water is silly expensive on the street so keep the empty bottle and fill it in your hotel before you leave. NYC tap water is very good quality. Feel free to ask for tap water in restaurants. They'll always try to upsell you to sparkling or bottled - but most New Yorkers know to ask for tap water.
Hope this helps!0 -
Elisabeisme, that was brilliant. Thank you. I don't think of myself a worried eater, but tend to shy from asking the questions. There is a lot of reassuring information there that makes me feel confident that I can order without feeling obliged or under pressure.0
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New York is such a great city.(stating the obvious i know) so many amazing food options i wouldnt worry too much about the diet.0
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Private message me about it if you want, I am a Bostonian who went to grad school in the UK (Aberystwyth).
I want to, I think, "third" the recommendation of Legal Sea Foods. They have lots of health friendly stuff and they are very sensitive to any peculiarities of diet, including food allergies which I consider the litmus test for restaurant tolerances. They are a chain in MA at least, go to the one kinda near the Aquarium and then walk around on the wharves.
If you join the coupon site livingsocial they have a coupon right now for an eco friendly Boston harbor day cruise. Going out to the islands is nice too but personally I'd bring a healthy picnic. Do Martha's Vineyard for something like that (Nantucket is wicked far and the Cape is a traffic disaster).
All the good New England beaches are in Rhode Island which is about a half inch away and you can take a commuter rail train there. Oh except there is a nice one in Ipswich MA which you can take a train to, Crane Beach.
There's a super healthy macrobiotic restaurant I am obsessed with in NY called Angelica's Kitchen. http://www.angelicakitchen.com We go there every time we visit NYC. Once I think my friend saw Gwyneth Paltrow there. It's reasonably priced and very cool.
You can basically get any imaginable food somewhere in New York. If you are looking for a raw + gluten free + vegan-except-for-fish-sauce + italian food place, you can probably find three different restaurants that do just that and are phenomenal. A lot of places are also really really small and sell just one thing and it's the best That Thing in the world. Like, they will only sell chicken wings, or they will only sell cheesecake with apples, or they will only sell wheatgrass, or something. It's really hard to stop eating in NYC... but the healthy options are MANY and AMAZINGLY GOOD. (Can you tell I am in the process of trying to move there??)
There are a lot of apps for NYC (for navigating it, finding stuff, etc.) so if you have a smart phone I would check one out. Or, bring a laptop.0 -
I just want to say a huge thanks to all you lovely people who gave me tips for our trip.
I did put on 10lbs but it was all worth it!!!
New York was fabulous but I am so very much in love with Boston, even more now my partner proposed to me on the sunday at 7am (because our body clocks were in a mess) in the public park looking out on the lake. Not a soul about Nothing comes close to the greatness that is Yawky Way either! Will definately be back!
Thanks again everyone
Hugs all round x0 -
I just want to say a huge thanks to all you lovely people who gave me tips for our trip.
I did put on 10lbs but it was all worth it!!!
New York was fabulous but I am so very much in love with Boston, even more now my partner proposed to me on the sunday at 7am (because our body clocks were in a mess) in the public park looking out on the lake. Not a soul about Nothing comes close to the greatness that is Yawky Way either! Will definately be back!
Thanks again everyone
Hugs all round x
Aww...congrats! That's amazing news. You should honeymoon there when you get married...take a little side trip up to Maine, too!0
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