WHY DO PEOPLE EAT BACK THEIR EXERCISE CALS?!

I just DO NOT get it!! You spend an hour in the gym working off burning 600 cal and then you just eat them back???
Why would you eat even a LITTLE back??

I thought the point was to burn these calories. WHY does MFP then add them to your food?!
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  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    Because MFP already creates a deficit for you. You technically don't need to exercise to lose weight. But you do need to fuel your body and not create a too large deficit that can be harmful and dangerous.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Because MFP already figures in a reasonable to high calorie deficit when you choose your weight loss goals. If you are shooting to lose 2lbs/wk, and you don't eat back exercise calories, your deficit becomes higher than well established safe limits. You can only lose so much fat in a day, so pushing the boundaries means your additional weight loss beyond a reasonable deficit is going to come from your muscle mass. Not a good choice.
  • Cherryblosm3
    Cherryblosm3 Posts: 106 Member
    So since my BMR is like 1700 cal and i want to burn 2lbs a week, i need a defecit of 7000 cals a week (-1000 a day).

    So, MFP sets my food at 1200 (-500 so far) and then i need to burn 500 more a day to meet that -7000 cal a week.

    So why would I eat it back?!?
  • tmauck4472
    tmauck4472 Posts: 1,785 Member
    Because they want you to net at least 1200 calories. Meaning if you eat 1200 and no exercise then that's fine. But if you exercise and burn 600 calories then they say your only having 600 calories that day for food intake and that's to low. Whatever I don't eat mine back unless I'm hungry.

    At least that's what I get from all the other posts about this subject
  • I eat back some these days because I feel like I am starving. I am still losing.

    Do whatever you want and I will do whatever I want. I don't eat all my exercise calories back, but that's neither here nor there.
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    So since my BMR is like 1700 cal and i want to burn 2lbs a week, i need a defecit of 7000 cals a week (-1000 a day).

    So, MFP sets my food at 1200 (-500 so far) and then i need to burn 500 more a day to meet that -7000 cal a week.

    So why would I eat it back?!?

    Change your goals manually if you're going to use your BMR/TDEE information. If you're doing that, then your exercise is already factored into your goals and you don't need to eat them back.
  • tmauck4472
    tmauck4472 Posts: 1,785 Member
    Because MFP already figures in a reasonable to high calorie deficit when you choose your weight loss goals. If you are shooting to lose 2lbs/wk, and you don't eat back exercise calories, your deficit becomes higher than well established safe limits. You can only lose so much fat in a day, so pushing the boundaries means your additional weight loss beyond a reasonable deficit is going to come from your muscle mass. Not a good choice.

    NOT TRUE, you won't start using muscle until your below 6% body fat.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    So since my BMR is like 1700 cal and i want to burn 2lbs a week, i need a defecit of 7000 cals a week (-1000 a day).

    So, MFP sets my food at 1200 (-500 so far) and then i need to burn 500 more a day to meet that -7000 cal a week.

    So why would I eat it back?!?
    Your deficit should come from your TDEE, not your BMR. If your BMR is 1700, a sedentary TDEE is 2040, so your deficit at 1200 cals is actually 840 cals, not 500. And most people have higher TDEE's than truly sedentary.
  • Cherryblosm3
    Cherryblosm3 Posts: 106 Member
    I eat back some these days because I feel like I am starving. I am still losing.

    Do whatever you want and I will do whatever I want. I don't eat all my exercise calories back, but that's neither here nor there.

    Ive noticed lot of people do either or.. i was just wondering why the people who do eat them back do it to begin with! I just dont get it!
    The only way i can understand them doing this is if they went WAY over their calories to begin with and needed to work them off. Then technically they "ate" their exercise cals
  • Goal_Line
    Goal_Line Posts: 474 Member
    So since my BMR is like 1700 cal and i want to burn 2lbs a week, i need a defecit of 7000 cals a week (-1000 a day).

    So, MFP sets my food at 1200 (-500 so far) and then i need to burn 500 more a day to meet that -7000 cal a week.

    So why would I eat it back?!?

    If your photo is current, 2 lbs a week may be too aggressive for you, from it you don;t appear to be that overweight. The less weight you have to lose the harder it is to drop 2 lbs per week. Perhaps1 lb per week is a better target for you?

    Consider the following question. Do you want to lose 2 lbs of fat OR 1.3lb f fat and 0.67lbs of muscle per week? The weight loss is the same but the composition is different.
  • Cherryblosm3
    Cherryblosm3 Posts: 106 Member
    So since my BMR is like 1700 cal and i want to burn 2lbs a week, i need a defecit of 7000 cals a week (-1000 a day).

    So, MFP sets my food at 1200 (-500 so far) and then i need to burn 500 more a day to meet that -7000 cal a week.

    So why would I eat it back?!?
    Your deficit should come from your TDEE, not your BMR. If your BMR is 1700, a sedentary TDEE is 2040, so your deficit at 1200 cals is actually 840 cals, not 500. And most people have higher TDEE's than truly sedentary.

    How do I get my TDEE?
  • whatwouldmulderdo
    whatwouldmulderdo Posts: 31 Member
    I don't eat back mine. I burn between 500-800 a day and eat 1200 calories. My nutritionist told me not to eat more than 1200 a day, so I try not to :)
  • I don't get it either I do cardio twice a day and don't eat all the calories back.Is that like a Paris Hilton diet minus the cocaine?I'm gonna start eating more ..I guess
  • Cherryblosm3
    Cherryblosm3 Posts: 106 Member
    So since my BMR is like 1700 cal and i want to burn 2lbs a week, i need a defecit of 7000 cals a week (-1000 a day).

    So, MFP sets my food at 1200 (-500 so far) and then i need to burn 500 more a day to meet that -7000 cal a week.

    So why would I eat it back?!?

    If your photo is current, 2 lbs a week may be too aggressive for you. The less weight you have to lose the harder it is to drop 2 lbs per week. Perhaps you should set a target of 1 lb per week?

    My photo is current, but im getting married soon! So i need to lose fast, but not unhealthily fast...
  • I eat back some these days because I feel like I am starving. I am still losing.

    Do whatever you want and I will do whatever I want. I don't eat all my exercise calories back, but that's neither here nor there.

    Ive noticed lot of people do either or.. i was just wondering why the people who do eat them back do it to begin with! I just dont get it!
    The only way i can understand them doing this is if they went WAY over their calories to begin with and needed to work them off. Then technically they "ate" their exercise cals

    Just my personal experience, but if I do eat a little of my exercise calories back, I lose more *shrug*
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Because MFP already figures in a reasonable to high calorie deficit when you choose your weight loss goals. If you are shooting to lose 2lbs/wk, and you don't eat back exercise calories, your deficit becomes higher than well established safe limits. You can only lose so much fat in a day, so pushing the boundaries means your additional weight loss beyond a reasonable deficit is going to come from your muscle mass. Not a good choice.

    NOT TRUE, you won't start using muscle until your below 6% body fat.
    That's absurd. Everyone on a deficit loses some muscle- the goal is to preserve it as much as possible. It's impossible to lose 100% fat. I think you're confusing losing muscle with starvation (not starvation mode, true starvation).
    Here's typical weight loss, per my exercise physiology textbook.
    percentweightloss.jpg
  • RHSheetz
    RHSheetz Posts: 268 Member
    Your BMR is 1700, and if all you do is lie in bed, that is what you need to survive. NOW, if you want to walk, talk, eat or do any other activity, you need more calories. MFP takes your activity level into consideration as well. which is why you do not see your calories at 700 it adds your activity level to the 1700 and then substracts your 1000 per day (which is really to much in my opion). If you exercise on top of that, you are creating a very drastic calorie deficit.

    WOW, you guys are all over this.. Before I got my post up, it was answered like several times! :-)
  • KiKi429
    KiKi429 Posts: 19 Member
    bump
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Because MFP, unlike most calorie counting websites, doesn't include the exercise you SAY you'll do into your calorie goal. It doesn't matter if you say you're going to sit on your *kitten* 7 days a week, or run a marathon every day, MFP will give you the same base calories. Surely you understand that someone who exercises a lot needs more fuel than someone who doesn't?

    When I just cut calories, when I believed that creating a large deficit was all it took to get the body I wanted, I lost weight, but too much of that weight was my lean body mass... my muscle. By "eating my exercise calories," I was able to maintain a moderate deficit, which allowed me to retain most of my lean mass and lose mostly body fat.

    What that means in terms everyone can understand... The jeans on the bottom are the size 8 jeans I wore at 130 pounds about 5-6 years ago when I didn't eat enough, and the top pair is the size 5 jeans I'm wearing NOW, eating my exercise calories, at about 135-138 pounds. (Typically a 2 or 4 in misses.)

    IMG_3265.jpg

    Here's me at about 130 pounds 5-6 years ago, and me at 133 pounds in February.

    five-years-later.jpg

    Then I still had a muffin top, back fat rolls, double chin, and cellulite out the wazzo. Now?

    IMG_4850.jpg

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/494091-i-just-don-t-care-anymore
  • yubafarm
    yubafarm Posts: 28 Member
    Based on those #'s I think you might not have much weight to lose. When this is the case, 2 lbs/week can set a deficit that in theory falls below 1200 cals/day, but MFP sets a 1200 calorie limit on the low end because this is considered a minimum amount to keep your body functioning.

    But it is possible that even 1200 can be too low. You should compare to your BMR and not eat below your BMR. For some reason MFP does not do this simple comparison when it sets your targets even though it knows both numbers. My BMR is about 1350 calories so I don't eat below that. I had to set MFP to a 1/2 lb per week loss so that it wouldn't keep telling me to eat 1200. At 1/2 lb / week it sets my target close to my BMR. It is a slower rate of loss than I want but I'm told this is the healthier way to lose weight and it makes sense to me.

    I am no expert on this but hope this helps.
  • nuttyfamily
    nuttyfamily Posts: 3,394 Member
    I eat half to all of mine back and lose just fine.

    The reason I exercise is so I can eat more and still lose.
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    So since my BMR is like 1700 cal and i want to burn 2lbs a week, i need a defecit of 7000 cals a week (-1000 a day).

    So, MFP sets my food at 1200 (-500 so far) and then i need to burn 500 more a day to meet that -7000 cal a week.

    So why would I eat it back?!?
    Your deficit should come from your TDEE, not your BMR. If your BMR is 1700, a sedentary TDEE is 2040, so your deficit at 1200 cals is actually 840 cals, not 500. And most people have higher TDEE's than truly sedentary.

    How do I get my TDEE?

    http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/

    Use the Military Body Fat Calculator to get your body fat %.
    Then use the BMR calculator.
    It will give you a chart. Pick your activity level, eat that amount of calories and don't eat back your exercise calories.
  • Cherryblosm3
    Cherryblosm3 Posts: 106 Member
    Your BMR is 1700, and if all you do is lie in bed, that is what you need to survive. NOW, if you want to walk, talk, eat or do any other activity, you need more calories. MFP takes your activity level into consideration as well. which is why you do not see your calories at 700 it adds your activity level to the 1700 and then substracts your 1000 per day (which is really to much in my opion). If you exercise on top of that, you are creating a very drastic calorie deficit.

    Too much? Everyone says 1.5-2lb loss a week is healthy right?? That a deficit of 7000 cals.. The only way to achieve that is -1000 a day (or other unhealthy ways). If its a "dangerous" deficit, why does MFP condone 1.5-2lbs a week>?
  • p0kers0ph
    p0kers0ph Posts: 250 Member
    On another site I use, my cals are set between 1200-1500, so eat anywhere in that range. Exercise cals aren't eaten back, that's why you have that range to begin with I guess.

    I've always thought that as long as your daily deficit doesn't exceed 1000 then it's okay, and not unhealthy, and don't eat below 1200.
  • Your BMR is 1700, and if all you do is lie in bed, that is what you need to survive. NOW, if you want to walk, talk, eat or do any other activity, you need more calories. MFP takes your activity level into consideration as well. which is why you do not see your calories at 700 it adds your activity level to the 1700 and then substracts your 1000 per day (which is really to much in my opion). If you exercise on top of that, you are creating a very drastic calorie deficit.

    Too much? Everyone says 1.5-2lb loss a week is healthy right?? That a deficit of 7000 cals.. The only way to achieve that is -1000 a day (or other unhealthy ways). If its a "dangerous" deficit, why does MFP condone 1.5-2lbs a week>?

    It doesn't really. Notice it tells you it is RECOMMENDED to do the 1 pound per week. If you don't have a lot to lose (probably less than 50 pounds) anything more than a pound a week is a lot to maintain.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Your BMR is 1700, and if all you do is lie in bed, that is what you need to survive. NOW, if you want to walk, talk, eat or do any other activity, you need more calories. MFP takes your activity level into consideration as well. which is why you do not see your calories at 700 it adds your activity level to the 1700 and then substracts your 1000 per day (which is really to much in my opion). If you exercise on top of that, you are creating a very drastic calorie deficit.

    Too much? Everyone says 1.5-2lb loss a week is healthy right?? That a deficit of 7000 cals.. The only way to achieve that is -1000 a day (or other unhealthy ways). If its a "dangerous" deficit, why does MFP condone 1.5-2lbs a week>?

    2 pounds a week is fine if you have more than 75 pounds to lose. Someone with that much to lose has enough excess body fat to support a larger calorie deficit. You don't.
  • rhe280
    rhe280 Posts: 71
    Because MFP already figures in a reasonable to high calorie deficit when you choose your weight loss goals. If you are shooting to lose 2lbs/wk, and you don't eat back exercise calories, your deficit becomes higher than well established safe limits. You can only lose so much fat in a day, so pushing the boundaries means your additional weight loss beyond a reasonable deficit is going to come from your muscle mass. Not a good choice.

    NOT TRUE, you won't start using muscle until your below 6% body fat.

    this
  • jessica0danielle
    jessica0danielle Posts: 70 Member
    i feel the way u do, im not going to exercise and then eat back those calories..
  • determinedbutlazy
    determinedbutlazy Posts: 1,941 Member
    THERE IS NO NEED TO SHOUT!!!!???!

    Because MFP already includes a calorie deficit based on you being sedentary.
    Simples.

    That being said, I burn about 500cal a day running and I only eat about half of that back because I'm just not that hungry. But that means I can afford to go over a little on "hungry" days during the week.
  • NoxDineen
    NoxDineen Posts: 497 Member
    For all of the reasons stated in the thousand other threads on this exact topic.: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=myfitnesspal.com+eat+back+exercise+calories