There's something very wrong here...
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Ya.... when i was at my heaviest i was eating a whopper with chesse 3-4 times a week... and fast food EVERYDAY! No working out AT ALL It was MY fault and definitely cant blame it on anyone else but myself. LOL0
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Glad you posted this. There seems to be a chunk of people who like to pin obesity on singular things outside of thermodynamics and this post is a pretty good example of the problem. We're eating more and moving less. Period.
I'm just waiting for someone to say "yeah, but the increase in calories was mainly due to increased carbs" and then it will become about insulin and metabolic advantage and the tooth fairy....
Effin tooth fairy gets me every time!!!!!!!!0 -
You are absolutely right.. I think the more technology advances, the lazier we get..0
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well the diabetic has to cut back the carbs it converts to sugar in the blood to fast specially potatoes... high school biology was amazingly useful those are the simplest forms of sugar its why if you chew a fry long enough it actually starts to taste sweet... but it wasnt the carbs that got me here it was the soda addiction and the sweet tea at work i miss my cherry cokes so much sigh oh well atleast i can drink diet doctor pepper
Glad you posted this. There seems to be a chunk of people who like to pin obesity on singular things outside of thermodynamics and this post is a pretty good example of the problem. We're eating more and moving less. Period.
I'm just waiting for someone to say "yeah, but the increase in calories was mainly due to increased carbs" and then it will become about insulin and metabolic advantage and the tooth fairy....
hmmm... soda & sweet tea = carbs0 -
The calorie numbers you quote are the same as in this Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_and_obesity
Which then goes on to say: "Most of these extra calories came from an increase in carbohydrate consumption rather than an increase in fat consumption. The primary sources of these extra carbohydrates were sweetened beverages, which now accounts for almost 25 percent of daily calories in young adults in America."
Interestingly, the average woman eating 1877 calories would lose weight. I wonder if this is under-reporting?0 -
Saw a TV show once where a guy bought an old house. When he moved in his dishes didn't fit in the cabinents. They were too big. He said that was a huge wake up call for him about how much our eating had evolved in the 50 or so years since that house was built.
I totally agree that a huge percentage of the obesity issues lie in lack of movement and over eating. I have a friend who is obese, her kids are morbidly obese and she blames it on genetics. Yes they are genetically predisposed to overeat, based on what they are being taught by the parents. Its a mind game. Until one is ready mentally to make a change they will not...0 -
The problem is that, since 1971, we've gotten farther from our caveman roots. Everything will be fine if we all go on the paleo diet.
Obvious troll is obvious, paleo isn't the end all eating style, and if you were actually up to date on your paleolithic research you would see that they DID in fact eat grains.0 -
I agree many people have become lazy. Not only too lazy to exercise, but too lazy to cook their own food properly. Instead, using ready made pies etc that are simply put on a tray in the oven, then transferred to a plate and eaten. No thought or effort goes into it and it's eaten with no thought for the nutritional content. My husband and I both love to cook and try new recipes. We adapt them to our own tastes and dietary requirements.
My husband struggles to exercise as he has MD but he works hard even so. I work out daily at the gym now too.0 -
There's been a steady increase in the amount of people joining gyms and regularly participating in competitive sports (i.e. distance running)
Teen smoking is down
Awareness of good nutritional habits is increasing
Organic farming and natural food awareness is up
We may turn things around.0 -
Self control is the problem for most... I do get medical issues... i understand that....but for instance... i have friends who have never made their own homemade mashed potatoes...nope theyd rather do the quick 3 minute method out of the box. We need to take the time to eat healthier and cook healthier
Regarding the quality of our food.... including grocery store items!!! Watch Fast Food nation or any of those other documentaries... will make u sick to your stomach at how they manipulate DNA, inject chemicals, just to make products produce faster, bigger, tastier. Chickens so large they cant even STAND!!!! and their legs buckle underneath them!!!
We have Amish near where we live.... If i dont grow it myself i get it from them... including pultry and beef... atleast I KNOW it isnt a chemically mutated dinner.0 -
Plates and cups and portion sizes have also increased..lending a false sense of "being good"
I have my great grandmothers china and it's HALF the size of the Gordon Ramsey plates I bought last year...
back then you would eat one helping on a dinner plate that was the size of a side plate now...
so we tell ourselves we stopped with one helping and we were good people...but if we TRULY stopped with one helping on a plate the size they were 40 years ago...we would be eating half as much as we eat now...
that's terrifying...as a result? I put away the dinner plates, I eat off of the side plates only...or...my great grandmothers china.0 -
Carbs and all-you-can-eat buffets! Thanks for the post!0
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Interesting info... Thanks for sharing!
If you still have it, would you mind posting the link to this study? 1500 calories a day for a women is below many ladies' BMR! At least its below mine, so I would like to check this out
P.S. They're some pretty funny stuff floating around in this thread.0 -
i would just like to add that i take in an average of 3300-3600 calories a day and don't remember the last time my carbs went below 400 in a day and all this does not put any weight on me, why? because i live an active lifestyle and get excercise, carbs are not any worse than anything else, stop the carb hatred!! can't we all get alone with carbs? O.o0
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Someone said on another thread (I think the "obese children" one...) that these days you see slim grandma, fatter mother and even fatter child... and I thought, now that you mention it... you're right!0
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Yes, people eat more now. What did you think was causing the obesity problem?
Carbs.
Y'know, I liked your original post, but not the snark.
One of the reasons that calories have gone up is the change in what we're eating, which DOES include more sugar and carbs. And yeah, we're eating more calories and food. Which is ubiquitous.0 -
There's been a steady increase in the amount of people joining gyms and regularly participating in competitive sports (i.e. distance running)
Teen smoking is down
Awareness of good nutritional habits is increasing
Organic farming and natural food awareness is up
We may turn things around.
I like this... Some light at the end of our very dark tunnel!0 -
The problem is that, since 1971, we've gotten farther from our caveman roots. Everything will be fine if we all go on the paleo diet.
Obvious troll is obvious, paleo isn't the end all eating style, and if you were actually up to date on your paleolithic research you would see that they DID in fact eat grains.
If I'm a troll then why do you feel the need to argue about my knowledge of a paleolithic diet?0 -
So, after a wonderful couple of weeks watching the Olympics I was inspired to research the training schedules of the athletes and see how they compared with my own. This lead me to seeing what an average person would do in general as well.
I couldn't find a lot of readily accessible data about the UK where I live but there was a fair amount of data from the US floating around which honestly shocked me. Given the UK is similar to the US I believe we are probably much the same.
In 1971, the average US woman consumed about 1,542 calories per day. In 2000, this had risen to 1,877 a difference of 335 calories per day. This is equivalent to 122, 275 calories a year or an extra 35lbs of fat...
For men the numbers rose from 2,450 to 2,618 an increase of 168 calories per day. This is equivalent to an extra 17.5lbs of fat.
80% watch TV every day, with the average person watching a whopping 5 hours per day or 35 hours per week. Only 5% were engaged in vigorous exercising daily, with 16% engaging is sports or exercise per day.
This doesn't even factor in increasing automation meaning we are more sedentary and engage in less physical activity.
Our perception of what is normal has become hugely distorted with time. Is it any wonder our respective nations are getting fatter and fatter? I wager if people reverted to a 1970 calorie intake and devoted a meagre 1/5th of the time they spent watching TV on average to exercise then our obesity problem would rapidly diminish.
We have become pampered, complacent and self delusional. No wonder our waistlines are expanding...
Glad you posted this. There seems to be a chunk of people who like to pin obesity on singular things outside of thermodynamics and this post is a pretty good example of the problem. We're eating more and moving less. Period.
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I have my great grandmothers china and it's HALF the size of the Gordon Ramsey plates I bought last year...
That's very interesting. And now that you mention it, the plates we bought a few years ago are enormous in comparison to the plates my parents inherited from my grandparents.0 -
And we walked everywhere--to the store, to church, to friends' houses, to school. To get to any of those places faster, we rode bikes. There was no such thing as a drive-thru anything. I think that people drive a lot more than in years past.0
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Plates and cups and portion sizes have also increased..lending a false sense of "being good"
I have my great grandmothers china and it's HALF the size of the Gordon Ramsey plates I bought last year...
back then you would eat one helping on a dinner plate that was the size of a side plate now...
so we tell ourselves we stopped with one helping and we were good people...but if we TRULY stopped with one helping on a plate the size they were 40 years ago...we would be eating half as much as we eat now...
that's terrifying...as a result? I put away the dinner plates, I eat off of the side plates only...or...my great grandmothers china.
I had a boss once who lost 50 pounds and the only thing she did differently was incorporate more walking eat off the smaller plates.When she would go out to eat she would get a to-go box up front and cut the meal in half. How easy that is... Just eat less.0 -
In 1971, the average US woman consumed about 1,542 calories per day. In 2000, this had risen to 1,877 a difference of 335 calories per day. This is equivalent to 122, 275 calories a year or an extra 35lbs of fat...
I lose weight on 1877 calories, I feel I am under eating on 1542, I'm 5ft4 and don't exercise, where's the extra 35lb of fat going?0 -
It is amazing if you look at how much our portion sizes have increased and what is considered a normal meal.
Protein sizes have increased? A serving should be the size of a deck of cards. There are lots of neat ways to measure your foods when you are out or at home, if you dont have other means. Good luck!0 -
If you still have it, would you mind posting the link to this study? 1500 calories a day for a women is below many ladies' BMR! At least its below mine, so I would like to check this out
Sure no probs:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5304a3.htm0 -
I think people are overweight because they make excuses for themselves. I did it, and I know lots of people that do it. Excuses about over eating, about not exercising, etc. Whatever it is that someone wants to make an excuse about will work. Because for me, it wasn't just sugar or carbs, it was ALL food that I decided to eat at once. Plus, I would make excuses about being too tired to go to the gym or that I had too much stuff at home. I think it's all about the excuses we allow ourselves to believe!0
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In 1971, the average US woman consumed about 1,542 calories per day. In 2000, this had risen to 1,877 a difference of 335 calories per day. This is equivalent to 122, 275 calories a year or an extra 35lbs of fat...
I lose weight on 1877 calories, I feel I am under eating on 1542, I'm 5ft4 and don't exercise, where's the extra 35lb of fat going?
It appears that 1,877 calories still puts you at deficit so there's no need to worry.
The 1,542 was simply an average.0 -
So what got less - the increases would push up the calories by 514 against the actual 100.Here is an interesting article about war time rationing in the UK. Calorie intake (3,000 per day for men) remains almost the same. However, fat, sugar and protein consumption have increased.
Less unsaturated fat, less alcohol, less non-sugar carbs ??0 -
I think less homecooking and more fast food/restaurant meals is also partly to blame. I recently started cooking more from scratch and it has surprised so many people that a younger person enjoys making things from scratch instead of from a box. I've seen the stats where portion sizes have increased over the last several decades and its crazy. A 12 oz soda was normal... Now a 32 oz soda is normal. It makes no sense! Sure, maybe you can get more "bang for your buck" but the extra calories are so not worth it! Between that and too much tv/video game/computer time it is no wonder we are where we are!0
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Yes, people eat more now. What did you think was causing the obesity problem?
I thought it was the fat fairies injecting lard into our behinds as we sleep...0
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