Is there a Heart Rate Danger Zone?

I know everybody's different... & my treadmill says at 30 (I'm 29, so I go with 30 on the treadmill scale) that my highest heart rate for "cardio training" is 162bpm.

I like to run... I like just throwing on the headphones in the nice air-conditionned gym, & letting my mind wander for an hour. Yeah. An HOUR of running. Speed? Not too fast. Usually around 5.5, but sometimes I'll drop it to 5.0 for the last 20 min or so if I'm feeling tired that day. I've been trying to work on my speed (I'd like to be able to do 5k in 30 min, so I want to get up to 6.3 because I *believe* that's the magic number).

But my heart rate? ALWAYS hovering around 180bpm. Is this *too* high? My face turns red... I sweat... by the end of my run my legs are wobbly... but I don't have chest pains... or spots on my vision or anything. But does that seem a little high to anyone else for a 29 year old who's 5'8" & 155ish-lbs? Isn't that a little much? If I continue running (60 mins is still new to me, I've only done it about a month) will my body adjust & my heart rate come down?

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  • ixap
    ixap Posts: 675 Member
    There is individual variation in heart rates. If you feel fine you are probably fine.

    And yes your heart rate will drop as you increase fitness. You will find that both your resting heart rate and your heart rate during a given intensity of exercise will be lower than before.
  • ixap
    ixap Posts: 675 Member
    Speed? Not too fast. Usually around 5.5, but sometimes I'll drop it to 5.0 for the last 20 min or so if I'm feeling tired that day. I've been trying to work on my speed (I'd like to be able to do 5k in 30 min, so I want to get up to 6.3 because I *believe* that's the magic number).
    PS --
    Instead of starting out fast and slowing down, try the reverse. The great running coach Lydiard called these "out and back runs." GREAT for developing your speed and consistent pacing.
  • AnninStPaul
    AnninStPaul Posts: 1,372 Member
    I am not a doctor. You should ask a medical professional for a real answer.

    First, are you using your own HRM (with chest strap) or the numbers the treadmill calculates when your hands are on the sensors? If the former, the number is probably good; if the latter, it could be way off. Get a good HRM.

    So if the data is reasonably accurate, you probably aren't helping your fitness by putting your heart into that level of overdrive. Lower the incline or the speed, and as you become more fit and your heart more efficient, you should see the heart rate improve. If your heart is still working so hard, bring up the topic at your next doctors appointment,

    I started C25K six weeks ago, and keep my "running' speed at 5.0 to keep my heart rate to the 160s. As my CV system becomes more fit, I'll crank it up with the goal of a 10 minute mile (versus the current 12 minutes -- and then I will reassess).
  • Aviendha_RJ
    Aviendha_RJ Posts: 600 Member
    But see... that's part of what worries me.

    I have suffered low blood pressure my entire life.

    Checked it last week? 107/65. Resting Pulse: 60. That's like... SUPER low, so I've heard.

    But it'll drop? I've heard a woman's max heart rate should be 226-age. That, for me: 197lbs. So that means... at 180bpm I'm at 91.3% of my max heart rate. Which is what you're supposed to be at for athletic conditionning... is that what I'm doing? This... trying to become a regular runner, who runs for 60 mins three-four times a week? So is that where it SHOULD be?
  • julieh391
    julieh391 Posts: 683 Member
    I can't answer your question, but as a nurse I'll say that you BP and pulse are perfectly normal for a healthy person.
  • sarah44254
    sarah44254 Posts: 3,078 Member
    I have low blood pressure, not sure what that has to do with it.

    My resting HR is also ridiculously high. Used to be 120. RESTING. it has since gone down to somewhere between 85 and 100 depending on how nervous I am that day (I guess?)

    when running, my HRM would read 170 mostly, and when I really got to sprinting and felt myself wearing out quickly (and dangerously) it was 195+

    so for me, 160-185 is a great, safe, zone. Anything higher, not really.

    My best advice is to push yourself kind of hard, and see a point where you are really not feeling well. Don't workout that hard. :)
  • ixap
    ixap Posts: 675 Member
    Average / typical max heart rate is 220 minus age so that's what they estimate for people, lacking any other information. Doesn't mean it "should" be or that there's something wrong with you if it's less or more, just that's what's most common. Your true max heart rate cannot be determined by an online calculator using only your age and gender and might be higher or lower. You can get a better guess of your own max heart rate based on your perceived exertion. Google and you can find the Borg Perceived Exertion Scale. Your actual heart rate when you are at 19 or 20 on that scale is your own max heart rate.


    I am an avid runner and my resting hear rate is 45 bmp. I don't know what my typical heart rates are during runs right now; I rarely use my monitor.
  • natasha150
    natasha150 Posts: 13 Member
    again like others mentioned, its something you should check with your doctor.

    however - i am of similiar build and age and when i run and find that my heart rate is usually elevated to 180 bpm for about 40 mins every time i work out (not that i have been doing a lot of that lately). I havent had any issues so far apart from being puffed out, red face, and wobbly legs.

    but if in doubt, check with your doctor.
  • Pebble321
    Pebble321 Posts: 6,423 Member
    I've given up worrying about heart rate zones - my numbers just don't fit the guidelines. I should be dead if my HRM is correct - I'm assuming there must be an error sometimes, but it regularly gets over 180 and it's not unusual for it to spike to over 200.

    According to a gazillion different formulas (http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm has a heap of different ones) my max rate should be anywhere from 166 - 179, but in practice, that is clearly not MY max heart rate.

    I talked to my doctor last year about running and any risks, he ran a stack of tests and said that all my results were so normal that they were boring and that I should run as much as I like.

    If you have any reasons to feel concerned, you should talk to your own doctor.
    Generally though I don't pay much attention to those "zones", they don't suit me and maybe they aren't right for you either.
  • ebgbjo
    ebgbjo Posts: 821 Member
    My heart rate gets up to about 192 and I haven't keeled over yet ;) Each person is different. You should speak to your physician to determine a healthy heart range for you
  • ixap
    ixap Posts: 675 Member
    As far as where you should be training --

    90% of max is too high for your everyday runs. Again, you may not be training at that level -- can't tell for sure just on the heart rate. But see where you are on that perceived exertion scale. Most of your runs right now should be at about 65-85% of your max, or about 11-15 on the perceived exertion scale.

    After several months of consistently running 3+ times per week, you may want to add in some hard intervals in the 90+% range, but you don't need to do this yet.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Yes, there is definitely a danger zone. As it approaches zero I would be concerned.

    :)
  • froeschli
    froeschli Posts: 1,292 Member
    Max heart rate differs from person to person. the xxx-minus age is really just an approximate for the average of all people your age.
    for a more individual maximum heart rate, there are sub-max tests, max tests and also such a thing as perceived max (observed at some point during exercise).
    i am 30 (nearly), female, 157lbs, 5'7". when i run, i try and stay between 145-170. i usually start out around 150 and end up at 175. when i hit 180 i tell myself to slow down. but the maximum i have seen is 230-240 on several occasions when i pushed HIIT probably a bit too far. these days i try and stay below 200, just to be on the "safe" side.
    as for running, if you are going longer than 20 minutes, you probably want to run at a pace where you can just still talk fairly comfortably. going above that can give you advantages, but it shouldn't be more than (i think) 10% of your total exercise time.

    check out "total heart rate training" at your local library if you are interested in better researched/more detailed info than i can give you just now :wink:
  • I had a HRM zone test done by a local PT. It was an eye opening experience!

    The first time we did the test, we learned that I was working out TOO HARD! No wonder I wasn't making progress! I was way above "fat burning" AND "cardio" ranges, I was burning my muscles in the anerobic zone for the majority of my workouts which was counter productive to my goals. The default math of 220 - age and all that stuff did not apply to me.

    After working out in the correct ranges for six months, we did the test again and my ranges moved up and I would work out at higher heart rates. The last test I had (before I fell off my schedule and lost some ground) I had a range that called for my workouts to be in the 165 - 175 range as "cardio", my anerobic threshold was above 195!

    Bottom line, the test was definitely worth the investment. Check with a local gym - anticipate a fee, you likely will buy the mask (yes it looks dorky, but, trust me no one cares and you will benefit in the long run and you can use it for future tests), and they will give you information on fasting and all that to have a good test. The test involves measuring CO2 exchange as you workout - usually on a treadmill, xtrainer, or bike and the intensity is raised during the test until you "max out". My tests usually took around 30 minutes and the results were immediately available and explained to me.

    Good luck!
  • PS2CR
    PS2CR Posts: 98 Member
    I've been 'low and slow' most of my life (low BP and slow, in the 50s heart rate). I chalk it up to a lifetime of loving skating. A few years ago I had my first trip to a cardiologist (age 54) due to 'heart symptoms' (a squeezing sensation in the chest that came with bike riding and lasted for three days). I was given the complete gamut of scans and tests. Each of the tests came back with a glowing report (eg. 0% plaque), and the doc pronounced my heart and cardio health like that of a 25yr old. But one test was a bit scary at first.

    For one of the tests I had to wear a 24hr Holter monitor that would continuously record my heart rhythms over a "typical day"--including any usual workouts. My cardiologist was at first very concerned when he discovered that during my skating workout (particularly after fast spins) my heart rate went up as high as 220. He said for most people, that might signal the onset of cardiac arrest, and asked me how I felt at the time. I remembered those two occasions of rapid heartbeat, and remembered either slowing the pace for a couple laps or getting off for a brief rest right after those due to being utterly spent, even with slight stomach queasiness. But it wasn't the first time I'd had those sensations during a hard workout, so I hadn't been at all concerned. When I told him I'd felt that same way countless times over 35 years of skating, he was less concerned. (And when a simple blood test revealed I was dangerously low thyroid due to undiagnosed thyroid disease, everything became clear. Untreated hypothyroidism can lead to serious consequences, even death, as the thyroid hormones regulate brain and heart function.)

    All that to say...heart rate REALLY varies among individuals and even though a textbook might say above a certain level = imminent heart attack, there are always exceptions. Your best bet, if you have concerns, is to do a stress test with your doc, and find out what's normal for YOU.
  • timboom1
    timboom1 Posts: 762 Member
    I can't answer your question, but as a nurse I'll say that you BP and pulse are perfectly normal for a healthy person.

    Agree with the above, I Can't speak as a professional but:

    1) As you build cardio endurance, especially with running you resting HR will probably go down over time, which is a good thing. My resting HR is 44, years ago it was right at 60.

    2) There is no real danger that your HR will get too high for an extended period of time while running. Your body will just not let you do it and you will slow down.

    3) It sounds like your running is right at or slightly over your anerobic threshold, which is going to wipe out your legs each run. I would slow most runs down and just run for a bit longer and then do 1 every week or two at the higher pace. This will build your aerobic endurance and promote other adaptations that support running over distance. Over time most likely your HR will also be lower at the same pace.