Netting less than 1200 calories?

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  • I dont follow net calories. I do a TDEE deficit I eat bout the same calories a day regardless of my exercise. Do I net lower than 1200 sure on some days. Im not stalled and im healthy and its obviously working I have lost 52lbs in 6.5 months
  • MommaSpunk
    MommaSpunk Posts: 113
    About two years ago my doc actually ahd me only eat 1000 a day, but in your case I would eat a little over for a few days and see if that does the trick.. I used to have to do that one day a week and either the next day or the day after that I would drop two lbs. That's not saying you will..thats just how I used to be... my body is crazy now!
  • RAFValentina
    RAFValentina Posts: 1,231 Member
    1200kCal is a semi-arbritrary figure conjured up by taking the average FEMALE and her BMR.In addition, this is a figure based on the AVERAGE FEMALE to get enough nutrients like protein, fat and vitamins/minerals. Some people will need more or less and it depends on your body composition, height, weight, gender and activoty level.

    Ultimately, if you've got a lot of fat to lose and your ingesting 1200kCal yet netting low, it shouldn't be an issue and so long as you don't have smething like type 1 diabetes, you may even go in to a state of Ketosis which isn't always detrimental as ultimately you are burning fat.

    I regularly net below 1200 sometimes negative... I also sometimes go massively over. It's a balancing act.

    You've probably heard of intermittent fasting too. Sometimes a day of nothing or up to 20% of your alotted maintennce calories is good for you and your weight loss and also has other health benefits to those not trying to lose weight including enhancing longevity.

    So don't believe all the hype of OMG you MUST net 1200. It isn't simply true. You know if you're starving yourself intentionally or not. I wouldn't reccomend it as a life long or long term thing. Certainly a few days a week is fine whilst you're trying to lose weight, but remember you do need calories in the form of protein/amino acids to build muscle to help give you a lovely lean look and keep vital muscular organs such as your heart healthy and prevent you going in to a catabloic state which is where your body is so desperate for nutrienst it metabolises muscles INCLUDING your heart for energy.


    I could go on and on but hey, you get the jist of it!
  • RAFValentina
    RAFValentina Posts: 1,231 Member
    Just read on your profile you have type 1 diabetes. Be very careful. If you go in to Ketosis it could lead to a further stage of that which is not good for you and very dangerous where you get high levels of nasty by products of metabolising LOTS of fat very quickly in your body as opposed to using normal source of energy such as glucose and glycogen. High levels of ketones and acetone = bad and can change blood pH to dangerous levels amongst other stuff!
  • elijhasmomma
    elijhasmomma Posts: 270 Member
    this has had me confused too. i posted a topic on it but didnt really get an answer. my daily goal is 1350 and i DO eat between 1300-1350, but i burn...A LOT. I also have 120lbs to lose. I end up netting around 350-500 a day. I just never understood if I was supposed to EAT at least 1200 a day or to NET 1200 a day. I do cardio 7 days a week. On Sundays I'll take it easy and maybe do a 50-60min walk and burn 450-475 cals, but on a normal day I am doing 30-55min sessions of Zumba and at my weight and intensity I'm burning 450-800 cals per session depending on how long I go and if I do them once or twice a day (most days I do em once in the morning and once in the evening after my toddler goes to bed). I'm determined to get rid of this weight and i will bust my *kitten* for it but i dnt want to be sick!:frown:
  • manda1978
    manda1978 Posts: 525 Member
    I'm new to counting calories, so please let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.

    I generally consume just under 1200 a day. I exercise 3-4 times a week and try not to eat my exercise calories. If I do its less than 1/2 the exercise calories. Will I still lose weight? I've plateaued big time and tought I'd try calories counting to shift these last couple of kilo's.
  • Janet9906
    Janet9906 Posts: 546 Member
    I've lost almost 50 pounds....for most of that I've been at or below 1200 cals. I'm not starving. I think you have to figure out what's best for you, I tried eating more and it didn't work for me....so I did what was best for me and it worked. I exercise 6 days a week.
  • rms171
    rms171 Posts: 30 Member
    I have been netting less than 1200 calories almost since I started my fitness program seven weeks ago. I went to my metabolic physician and nutritionist, both of whom were less concerned about caloric target and much more focused on nutritional balance. My protein grams were inadequate, which contributed to rapid weight loss the first few weeks. To the 1,200 calorie advocates I will friend all of you and let you see what's in my diary as I am curious how much more someone can possibly eat in a day, especially someone with a lap band such as myself. Trust me I am full as full can be by end of day.
  • impyimpyaj
    impyimpyaj Posts: 1,073 Member
    I have been netting less than 1200 calories almost since I started my fitness program seven weeks ago. I went to my metabolic physician and nutritionist, both of whom were less concerned about caloric target and much more focused on nutritional balance. My protein grams were inadequate, which contributed to rapid weight loss the first few weeks. To the 1,200 calorie advocates I will friend all of you and let you see what's in my diary as I am curious how much more someone can possibly eat in a day, especially someone with a lap band such as myself. Trust me I am full as full can be by end of day.

    You have a lap band, so of course you'll be more limited in how much you can eat since your stomach has been surgically restricted. So that amount of food might be right for you. It's probably not right for someone who has only 8 pounds to lose and has not had surgery.
  • NickiRae04
    NickiRae04 Posts: 37 Member
    I don't need to look at your diary.

    You know the answer.

    The answer is you are netting less than 1200 calories.

    People don't "fly off the handle" for less than 1200 calories for nothing. It's not healthy. It leads to plateaus. It ruins your metabolism. It makes you lose muscle mass.

    exactly. check out my video "eat more to weigh less" http://www.youtube.com/jaymebales83

    I saw the video when I started my healthy journey and I was one of those eat less weigh less people, but after that video I Eat More to Weigh Less!! I'm not eating crappy foods And I'm no starving myself! I want to be healthy and fit not just "skinny"
  • SPNLuver83
    SPNLuver83 Posts: 2,050 Member
    I don't need to look at your diary.

    You know the answer.

    The answer is you are netting less than 1200 calories.

    People don't "fly off the handle" for less than 1200 calories for nothing. It's not healthy. It leads to plateaus. It ruins your metabolism. It makes you lose muscle mass.

    exactly. check out my video "eat more to weigh less" http://www.youtube.com/jaymebales83

    So I figured my TDEE and it's approximately 2500 calories/day...and I would want have a deficit of 10% of that...That seems like a LOT...I mean...Granted I'd LOVE to think I could splurge and have some peanut butter right now but...really?

    Really. I know it seems like a lot but that's because we've been conditioned to think we need to eat less to weigh less. I've lost all myweight by eating enough and it's how i became toned, not flabby. I dunno about you but i love food and if science tells me i caneast and still lose then I'm on it.
  • misskerouac
    misskerouac Posts: 2,242 Member
    You'll have to forgive my diabetes ignorance as I don't know anyone that has diabetes but do you have to eat low fat versions of things like yogurt?

    Because things like that would be really easy to get your calories up and take out a lot of additives without adding any quantity of food since you said you are satisfied with the amount of food you're eating.

    A good greek yogurt will also have a LOT more protein.
    Same with milk, bump it up to 2% (if you don't mind the consistancy)

    Instead of fat free pretzles, have some nuts or seeds, 1/4 or 1/3 of a cup can easily be 200-300 calories and it's less processed and even has some good fat (and a bit of protein)
  • nicehormones
    nicehormones Posts: 503 Member
    You are aiming for a deficit so you net under 1200? You do realize, the goal of 1200 itself already makes you at an extreme deficit? Yes, your body is not getting enough food so it is rebelling against you. If it does continue to lose, it is going to shed muscle mass since muscles burn more calories than fat. You should eat more. I promise you, it really doesn't suck as much as a lot of people make it seem :P
  • leejayem
    leejayem Posts: 120 Member
    I don't need to look at your diary.

    You know the answer.

    The answer is you are netting less than 1200 calories.

    People don't "fly off the handle" for less than 1200 calories for nothing. It's not healthy. It leads to plateaus. It ruins your metabolism. It makes you lose muscle mass.

    Not sure where you get your information from (???) but from my experience, 1200 calories a day from good, nutritionally sound food is very healthy!! I have been put on 1200 calories by my endocrinologist who is the top in his field in NSW - I believe this man knows about healthy eating. He has helped countless Type 2 diabetics to reverse their condition through low calorie healthy eating (for weight loss). I have lost 15pounds since I saw him 2 months ago by sticking fairly closely to my 1200 calories a day. I have not lost muscle mass (actually quite the reverse) & my metabolism is fine.I think you should check your facts before making blanket statements like this!
  • kiminikimkim
    kiminikimkim Posts: 746 Member
    I reached my goal that way. I never ate 100% of my burned calories on workout days. Maybe ate 50% on top of my 1200.

    On weeks that I was eating too much, I gained a pound or two, went back on a strict regime and finally reached my goal.

    I am maintaining at 1400 calories now and eat 100% of my burned calories. I've been watching my weight to make sure I stay the same weight. It's been working so far.
  • misskerouac
    misskerouac Posts: 2,242 Member
    I don't need to look at your diary.

    You know the answer.

    The answer is you are netting less than 1200 calories.

    People don't "fly off the handle" for less than 1200 calories for nothing. It's not healthy. It leads to plateaus. It ruins your metabolism. It makes you lose muscle mass.

    Not sure where you get your information from (???) but from my experience, 1200 calories a day from good, nutritionally sound food is very healthy!! I have been put on 1200 calories by my endocrinologist who is the top in his field in NSW - I believe this man knows about healthy eating. He has helped countless Type 2 diabetics to reverse their condition through low calorie healthy eating (for weight loss). I have lost 15pounds since I saw him 2 months ago by sticking fairly closely to my 1200 calories a day. I have not lost muscle mass (actually quite the reverse) & my metabolism is fine.I think you should check your facts before making blanket statements like this!

    1200 calories is the minimum a woman should eat as a guideline, the OP is netting quite a bit below that which can be very unhealthy.

    It is nearly impossible to gain muscle while eating a deficit.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    You'll have to forgive my diabetes ignorance as I don't know anyone that has diabetes but do you have to eat low fat versions of things like yogurt?

    Because things like that would be really easy to get your calories up and take out a lot of additives without adding any quantity of food since you said you are satisfied with the amount of food you're eating.

    A good greek yogurt will also have a LOT more protein.
    Same with milk, bump it up to 2% (if you don't mind the consistancy)

    Instead of fat free pretzles, have some nuts or seeds, 1/4 or 1/3 of a cup can easily be 200-300 calories and it's less processed and even has some good fat (and a bit of protein)

    I'm not really eating this yogurt because it's fat free-I eat it because it's no sugar added :(
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    I don't need to look at your diary.

    You know the answer.

    The answer is you are netting less than 1200 calories.

    People don't "fly off the handle" for less than 1200 calories for nothing. It's not healthy. It leads to plateaus. It ruins your metabolism. It makes you lose muscle mass.

    Not sure where you get your information from (???) but from my experience, 1200 calories a day from good, nutritionally sound food is very healthy!! I have been put on 1200 calories by my endocrinologist who is the top in his field in NSW - I believe this man knows about healthy eating. He has helped countless Type 2 diabetics to reverse their condition through low calorie healthy eating (for weight loss). I have lost 15pounds since I saw him 2 months ago by sticking fairly closely to my 1200 calories a day. I have not lost muscle mass (actually quite the reverse) & my metabolism is fine.I think you should check your facts before making blanket statements like this!

    I'm type I by the way, which is a little different...had it since I was a teenager. Suck-fest.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    I'm not looking to maintain right now. I want to get back down to my usual weight of 135. I had gained around 10 lbs the year I started birth control. Before that I had maintained at 135 for a LONG time. Granted I'm still wearing the same sizes and my clothes look fine. I just felt better at 135. My appetite didn't really change when I started oral contraceptives, I just started putting on pounds. Very frustrating.
  • misskerouac
    misskerouac Posts: 2,242 Member
    You'll have to forgive my diabetes ignorance as I don't know anyone that has diabetes but do you have to eat low fat versions of things like yogurt?

    Because things like that would be really easy to get your calories up and take out a lot of additives without adding any quantity of food since you said you are satisfied with the amount of food you're eating.

    A good greek yogurt will also have a LOT more protein.
    Same with milk, bump it up to 2% (if you don't mind the consistancy)

    Instead of fat free pretzles, have some nuts or seeds, 1/4 or 1/3 of a cup can easily be 200-300 calories and it's less processed and even has some good fat (and a bit of protein)

    I'm not really eating this yogurt because it's fat free-I eat it because it's no sugar added :(

    Even with no sugar added, it still has a higher sugar content than some Greek yogurt, just something to maybe consider.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
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    Even with no sugar added, it still has a higher sugar content than some Greek yogurt, just something to maybe consider.
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    Oh, don't get me wrong. I LOVE Greek yogurt. I used to stir muesli into it and it was delicious...I just figured my glycemic response might be better with one of those yogurts vs the no sugar added.
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    I'm not looking to maintain right now. I want to get back down to my usual weight of 135. I had gained around 10 lbs the year I started birth control. Before that I had maintained at 135 for a LONG time. Granted I'm still wearing the same sizes and my clothes look fine. I just felt better at 135. My appetite didn't really change when I started oral contraceptives, I just started putting on pounds. Very frustrating.

    Honestly, if you look the same and your clothes fit the same, don't worry about the scale. If you feel bad physically, that is one thing -- but if it is just not liking the number on the scale, try to rethink the situation. Synthetic hormones will make you gain and hold weight. Your body is convinced that it is pregnant for 3 -3 1/2 ish weeks each month depending on the pill your are on.

    I know seeing an increase on the scale sucks, but comes with taking the pill. It's a side effect. Unless you have weight to lose beyond what the pill made you gain, you're going to have a heck of a fight to get those pounds off. Your body thinks you're having a baby, it is going to fight you HARD to take those lbs off. Honestly, you'd have to be unnecessarily restrictive to get them off. Please talk to your doctor about this issue.
  • unlocke
    unlocke Posts: 149
    I peeked at your diary. It seems like you're eating a tiny breakfast and a bigger (calorie) dinner. Try reversing it. You need a carb in the mornings.....oatmeal, whole wheat bagel, toast, something like that. More protein too.
    Then try snacking less on the sugary stuff, add in more fresh veggies and fruits. Good luck to you. Hope this helps. :smile:
  • impyimpyaj
    impyimpyaj Posts: 1,073 Member
    I peeked at your diary. It seems like you're eating a tiny breakfast and a bigger (calorie) dinner. Try reversing it. You need a carb in the mornings.....oatmeal, whole wheat bagel, toast, something like that. More protein too.
    Then try snacking less on the sugary stuff, add in more fresh veggies and fruits. Good luck to you. Hope this helps. :smile:

    Why do you "need" a carb in the morning? I'm sure some people do, but not everyone does. I don't. :)
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    My biggest concern is not that you are eating low-calories, it's the fact that the calories you are eating are not particularly nutritious. Do you feel like your hungry all the time? I would be very surprised if you did not. I personally would recommend following "Eat to Live" by Dr. Fuhrman, which is very high in micronutrients, naturally low in calories, and you can eat until you're satisfied.

    Whole plant foods are only making up about 10% of your calories, where 90% of the calories are processed foods and animal products. This should really be the reversed IMHO.