Muscle Gain Trick

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Anyone have any input on the article?

wishful thinking

I do from what I read. I don't quite get it yet but he is saying that instead of eating, say 500 calories, use 500 calories worth of stored fat? I don't see how that is possible so I will read some more. Right now my thought is that you can't pinpoint fat unless you suck it out with lipo. I'll go read more. Denise

PS Ok, yeah, this is not true I don't think. He is saying that if you don't eat your caloric need you can get it from stored fat alone. I don't believe that the body will "only" burn fat if you don't fuel it with not just proper nutrition but enough of that proper nutrition. I do not believe muscle can be built from fat-stores but I believe muscle will burn up and rid the body of fat stores.

I stopped eating entirely and now I look ripped as hell. True story.

like this guy?

Firebrand, THAT dude scares me....

I stopped eating entirely and now I look ripped as hell. True story.

like this guy?

dang how do i get lats like that!

Yes, I agree now. Hadn't look at one of those sites but it's someone planning to make a million on a bunch of suckers.

bodybuilding is the worst site to get your info from. They pander to the millions of newbies on the site who just want HUGE arms, and the supplements they sell recently tested positive for steroids.

I do from what I read. I don't quite get it yet but he is saying that instead of eating, say 500 calories, use 500 calories worth of stored fat? I don't see how that is possible so I will read some more. Right now my thought is that you can't pinpoint fat unless you suck it out with lipo. I'll go read more. Denise

PS Ok, yeah, this is not true I don't think. He is saying that if you don't eat your caloric need you can get it from stored fat alone. I don't believe that the body will "only" burn fat if you don't fuel it with not just proper nutrition but enough of that proper nutrition. I do not believe muscle can be built from fat-stores but I believe muscle will burn up and rid the body of fat stores.

He's essentially saying that it's possible to use the caloric excess that stored in your fat cells as the fuel needed for muscle building, thereby losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time.

Like I said, wishful thinking.

Hey, stop dissing my boyfriend!

I stopped eating entirely and now I look ripped as hell. True story.

like this guy?

I'm pretty sure that guy stopped eat AND going into the sun. eeee...

He probably rides a unicorn over the rainbow bridge to his gym...

we need a deficit to lose weight and the more we lift, the more muscle we get. Muscle replaces the fat. DUH! He sounds like he is encouraging a low carb diet (again, duh!)

Personally, i think this article was a filler for the issue. He didn't say anything new .

OK, I went back and skimmed over that article and I am not expert, nor am I a body builder but it seems reasonable. Take me... I have 60 lbs or so of body fat to lose but I also lift heavy like a crazy chick. In the last 2 weeks I have lost about 10 lbs... Yet, I am stronger and lift heavier than I did two weeks ago... IE... I started doing 35's on my dumbell press. I can now do 45's. I could not have done that 2 weeks ago... So, common sense tells me I lost 10 lbs of fat, and my muscles are getting stronger.

Am I missing something here?

Well, getting stronger doesn't necessarily meaning you're gaining muscle mass. There are also central nervous system adaptations that take place that allow you to lift more weight. Basically your CNS becomes more efficient at recruiting muscle fibers in a particular muscle group.

That aside, simultaneous muscle gain and fat loss is possible, but it's pretty much limited to the context of overweight people that are new to strength training. This is because of a combination of insulin resistance that comes with being overweight and the rapid muscle gains and improved nutrient partitioning that comes with being new to strength training.

As you get leaner and more experienced, you're no longer insulin resistant, and no longer making rapid muscle gains. You can't mobilize a significant enough amount of fat from your cells on a daily basis to provide for muscle gains. In fact, in a calorie deficit, with increased gluconeogenesis, you need to be careful to avoid a net protein loss.

OK, I went back and skimmed over that article and I am not expert, nor am I a body builder but it seems reasonable. Take me... I have 60 lbs or so of body fat to lose but I also lift heavy like a crazy chick. In the last 2 weeks I have lost about 10 lbs... Yet, I am stronger and lift heavier than I did two weeks ago... IE... I started doing 35's on my dumbell press. I can now do 45's. I could not have done that 2 weeks ago... So, common sense tells me I lost 10 lbs of fat, and my muscles are getting stronger.

Am I missing something here?

Well, getting stronger doesn't necessarily meaning you're gaining muscle mass. There are also central nervous system adaptations that take place that allow you to lift more weight. Basically your CNS becomes more efficient at recruiting muscle fibers in a particular muscle group.

That aside, simultaneous muscle gain and fat loss is possible, but it's pretty much limited to the context of overweight people that are new to strength training. This is because of a combination of insulin resistance that comes with being overweight and the rapid muscle gains and improved nutrient partitioning that comes with being new to strength training.

As you get leaner and more experienced, you're no longer insulin resistant, and no longer making rapid muscle gains. You can't mobilize a significant enough amount of fat from your cells on a daily basis to provide for muscle gains. In fact, in a calorie deficit, with increased gluconeogenesis, you need to be careful to avoid a net protein loss.

OK, so how do female bodybuilders go from off season 20% body fat, to 8% for a show. They aren't losing muscle mass... Are you saying they are just losing fat, but not gaining muscle, it's already there?

OK, so how do female bodybuilders go from off season 20% body fat, to 8% for a show. They aren't losing muscle mass... Are you saying they are just losing fat, but not gaining muscle, it's already there?

Even the Fierce Five women's olympic gymnastics team was between 15-18% body fat, I think a girl would die if she got that low.

*Please note that McKayla is not impressed with this article.

The table in that article is from this study:

http://ccjm.org/content/69/11/849.full.pdf

which explicitly states that the greater weight loss is concluded to be from water rather than fat derived.

In addition in the original 2002 Volk et al study the low carb group was eating more protein in comparison to the control which we know is muscle sparing. In addition no description was given of the nature of physical activity engaged by the control group in comparison to the LC group if I recall correctly.

Concluding that it is somehow some unique way of achieving concurrent increase in muscle mass and lowering of BF% is not the best idea...

There you go using logic and science again to ruin all the fun. Next thing you know you'll be telling me not to buy that bridge in London.

Eh... i didnt read that yet... But going by experience...

The only way to gain muscle is by Hard work, persistence, determination to achieve and dedication... there is no easy way except a needle. And even the needle needs work to get muscle gains.

Lol than why respond if you didnt read it... nothing special in this article cut with keto gain muscle is the general point in this article no new revelations here.