I Got Told Gym Won't Help Me Lose Weight

OpalFruitJam
OpalFruitJam Posts: 114 Member
edited September 20 in Fitness and Exercise
I am so demotivated.
I joined the gym 18th of Decemeber, have had no caffiene and only alcohol on New Years Eve and thr 4th of Jan.
I have been doing cardio at the gym, about one hour either on the exercise bike or cross trainer, and then half an hour on the one I did not do the hour on.

I have been sticking very strictly to low fat, weight watchers food. Despite this I feel no different, feel I look no different (no one has said otherwise) and have only lost a bit of weight.

I was speaking to someone at the gym today who is a personal trainer, and he said my workout will NOT help me lose weight. He said the only way to lose weight is through building muscle - ie- lifting weights. I don't want to do this as it hurts me.
He said what I have been doing for the past few weeks will no have helped me lose any weight.

I thought it was calories in vs calories out. And I burn around 500 calories most times I go to the gym and I go around 4-5 times a week. Please help, I don't understand why he said this workout wouldnt work.
And why I feel and look no different :(
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  • lotusfromthemud
    lotusfromthemud Posts: 5,335 Member
    The "trainer" is full of it.

    It IS calories in, calories out. (Although weights are great for you, and muscle mass at rest burns slightly more than other body mass at rest. )

    Weight loss happens in the eating. If you're at a calorie deficit (even if you're not exercising at all) you'll lose.

    Frankly, shame on that dude.
  • That is not what my personal trainer said...lol...she said you have to target muscle groups . She had set up a work out regimine for me that does not include wieghts. I go to her on wednesday of next week for my training ( I do every other week with her for excercise and the other for nutrition) I will let you know then what she put me on. I do know you have to maintain a target heart rate to burn fat. If you go to high you will gain wieght because you are building muscle. My target heart rate is 123. you should ask someone at your gym if they can help you determine your target heart rate to burn fat. good luck
  • OpalFruitJam
    OpalFruitJam Posts: 114 Member
    So you think I should still stick at it and I will lose? Because my scales say I have lost but to be honest I look no difference and my clothes don't seem any different.
    This is so confusing with all this advice coming at me! Maybe he was just trying to get me to buy a training session with him.
  • OpalFruitJam
    OpalFruitJam Posts: 114 Member
    Thankyou!
    My max heart rate on the cross trainer seems to be 175 at the moment.... I think thats more muscle building anyway, which is what the personal trainer said would help lose weight.
    This is very confusing!
    Keep it up and let me know how you get on!!
  • lcmartin
    lcmartin Posts: 163 Member
    Awe...don't listen to them. While they are right that by building muscles you up your metabolism...that's NOT the only way to lose weight. Cardio is still really really good for you and very good for your heart and burns fat! As far as why you didn't lose...I can't really say. Sometimes that just happens. Seems like everybody is having a "bad" week this week...so it's not just you. I'd like to think that maybe the earth is in some sort of weird rotation and that at this time, everbody weighs an extra 5 lbs! (that's my theory and I'm sticking with it!

    So stick with it. Don't give up!
  • I am so demotivated.
    I joined the gym 18th of Decemeber, have had no caffiene and only alcohol on New Years Eve and thr 4th of Jan.
    I have been doing cardio at the gym, about one hour either on the exercise bike or cross trainer, and then half an hour on the one I did not do the hour on.

    I have been sticking very strictly to low fat, weight watchers food. Despite this I feel no different, feel I look no different (no one has said otherwise) and have only lost a bit of weight.

    I was speaking to someone at the gym today who is a personal trainer, and he said my workout will NOT help me lose weight. He said the only way to lose weight is through building muscle - ie- lifting weights. I don't want to do this as it hurts me.
    He said what I have been doing for the past few weeks will no have helped me lose any weight.

    I thought it was calories in vs calories out. And I burn around 500 calories most times I go to the gym and I go around 4-5 times a week. Please help, I don't understand why he said this workout wouldnt work.
    And why I feel and look no different :(

    The trainer might have been looking for business!
  • How do you know your heart rate for a calorie burn?
  • TCASMEY
    TCASMEY Posts: 1,405 Member
    The "trainer" is full of it.

    It IS calories in, calories out. (Although weights are great for you, and muscle mass at rest burns slightly more than other body mass at rest. )

    Weight loss happens in the eating. If you're at a calorie deficit (even if you're not exercising at all) you'll lose.

    Frankly, shame on that dude.

    I agree. Losing weight is about creating a calorie deficit. You can lose weight without working out if you can create that deficit through your diet. Working out, cardio and weight lifting can help you burn more calories. You have not lost a lot of weight, but you do not have an extreme amount to lose. Take some measurements and watch them as you tone up and exercise. Do not let the comments of a trainer like this get to you. Did this "trainer' then try to get you to hire him? Probably trying to drum up business!
  • clankp22
    clankp22 Posts: 38 Member
    I hate to say this, but I think the trainer was just telling you that to make a sale. In my experience, some of the trainers can be pretty sketchy and they are just trying to get you to sign up. If you do decide to get a trainer, make sure their motivation is pure- to help you!

    Hope this helps! Good luck!
  • OpalFruitJam
    OpalFruitJam Posts: 114 Member
    How do you know your heart rate for a calorie burn?

    At my gym, we have a little metre... when you put your hands on the machine it will read your heart rate and tell you what it is. It will then flash a different colour depending on how high or low it is..
    I think anything above 140 is muscle building/aerobic...
    100-140 is fat burn?

    Something like that I really can't remember.
  • jnikitow
    jnikitow Posts: 334
    I have been doing this for the last year. I have a really hard time with the strength training part of exercising. I just get bored with it. Anyway, so my exercise routine is mainly cardio. I go between the elliptical and treadmill (running), and have lost about 65 pounds.

    Although I did lose all that weight without strength training, I now wish I had done it because I have a lot of extra skin and flab now. My goal this year is to tone.

    So, you will lose weight. I did! Eventually you will want to tone at some point though.

    Hope this helps.
  • OpalFruitJam
    OpalFruitJam Posts: 114 Member
    He did then say, "You need someone to look after you, to look after your diet and make you an exercise program"
    I just said I didnt have the money and figured calories in vs calories out should work in time...
    Thanks for the kind words.
  • OpalFruitJam
    OpalFruitJam Posts: 114 Member
    Thankyou very much!
    I suppose, I don't htink he had my best interests at heart...
  • OpalFruitJam
    OpalFruitJam Posts: 114 Member
    Thankyou! How long did it take you to see noticeable results?
    I just see no difference yet. Glad to know it will work though. I may try to do a few weights every now and then, but there is no way I can make them my main workout!
    Well done on your weight loss that is very impressive!!!
  • hnlymark
    hnlymark Posts: 191
    Your diary shows that you are consistently around four hundred calories low. That's not so good to begin with. In fact, there was a day there you only had nine hundred. That just doesn't seem like enough. As far as calories in/calories out, I firmly believe that is correct. However, it is good to have some strength training mixed in there. By the way, strength training doesn't have to be painful. Start out super light and once your muscles start getting used to being used, build up to heavier weights with low reps. Some soreness will be there, but it shouldn't be painful. I do believe you can still lose weight with cardio only though. In fact, I bet there are many on here who have.

    It is a long process, losing weight. It happens so slowly you generally won't notice a difference, it sorta sneaks up on you. Be patient and strong. If you are consistingly losing a pound a week you are doing fantastic. Also, understand that its not just about losing weight, but about being healthy and building self respect by proving to yourself that you can do it. And, of course, you definitely CAN do it. You should try eating a bit more though. I have never experienced it, but many experts say your body goes into starvation mode if your caloric intake is too low.
  • tlapdx72
    tlapdx72 Posts: 311 Member
    Yeah, I have been going to the gym for a year. I use the elliptical, cross trainer, the bike and the stairmaster. I choose 3 machines, and I do around 20 minutes on each machine. I have lost almost 40 pounds just doing this. It has been a slow weight loss for me, but I think that is because I have not been counting calories. I just started counting calories 2 weeks ago, and I have noticed a big improvement in my weight loss. I know that I should lift weights to tone up, but for now I have just been focused on cardio.
  • I know all this can be confusing and I defintiely felt overwhelmed when I started working out to lose weight. You are right that cardio is a good way to lose weight and it is about calories in compared to calories out.
    I think people get scared about strength training and what it is. It doesn't mean that you have to lift super heavy weights and get huge muscles.
    You can do other exercises like squats and lunges holding onto hand weights or body weight exercises like tricep dips and push ups. These are great exercises becuase you don't even need to go to the gym to do them. Even for abs you can do plank exercises and leg lifts. These kind of exercises will tone your muscles and will continue to burn fat for a longer time after you have stopped exercising than cardio will.
    Everyone is different but if you are going to the gym 5 times a week maybe do 3 x cardio and in between alternate with just a small amount of cardio and these kind of exercises.
    I think you will find that they will really help you.
  • ZuniDi
    ZuniDi Posts: 4
    Make sure you are eating enough and do not skip meals.
  • minnesota
    minnesota Posts: 204 Member
    The biggest issue with people losing weight is getting discouraged, because they are not seeing results fast enough. Weight just doesn't melt off and it varies from person to person and how much and where they lose it from. I lost 50lbs in the past and was just like you "not seeing any results," but when I look back I wanted to lose the weight in my stomach, but instead I was losing it in my face, arms and legs first. As others said the trainer may be looking for business. Just keepeat on calorie counting and making sure you are making smart choice and keep exercising. Change your cardio up a lot as your body will adjust to the routine and you won't burn as much as you did before. Push yourself every time and make it a goal every week to go longer, harder or faster the next week.

    When it comes to weights I would always suggest this as it does increase your metabolism, tone your body and burn calories. Try to start to incorporate this into your rountine by doing seperate muscles groups. I will give you an example on what I do for just an idea. I tend to go to cycle class a lot since it burns tons of calories and very intense. I hope some of this information helps and I wish you the best!!!

    Weights Cardio
    MON Back and Biceps Running
    Tues Chest and Triceps Cycle
    Wed Legs Stair Master/ Walking on incline
    Thurs Shoulders Cycle
    Friday OFF Cycle
  • vctkell
    vctkell Posts: 41
    First, I am gonna suggest you send a friend request to SHBoss1673, this is Banks, he is very knowledgeable in these areas. I follow his comments and have learned alot just from him. You do need to combine your cardio with weight training, this will help
    tone your muscles and burn fat while you are at rest. I do weights on Mon & Thurs cardio on Tues & Wed. By combining weights and cardio I lost around 15 lbs and 2 pant sizes. Be sure friend request Banks and here is hoping you have great workouts !
  • YoungJr42
    YoungJr42 Posts: 25 Member
    I'm pretty sure somebody else has said the same thing, but whoever this trainer is probably needs to lose his job. YES, weight training should probably be added to, if it's not already in, your routine, b/c it'll help burn more fat. But it's not the ONLY way you'll lose the weight. I don't know much about Weight Watcher's, but I'm pretty sure you're taking in too many calories if you're not losing any weight. Calories in vs. calories out is one of those things that it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to go against, except for some other type of medical problem a person may have. So, keep up your cardio, consider adding weights, and use MFP.com to count your calories and lose your weight!!!!!!!! Good luck!
  • minnesota
    minnesota Posts: 204 Member
    Keep your head up and mix up your cardio. Good Luck
  • meferretti
    meferretti Posts: 36 Member
    As a manager of a gym and a trainer for 11 years I am telling you that what the trainer told you is false. If you consume less calories than you take in you are going to lose weight. Be sure to eat enough as if you eat too little your body will go into starvation mode and hold onto everything it can especially fat. You need to do lots of cardio as this will help you lose fat but you should also do resistance training to build lean muscle mass too especailly if you are eating to lose weight. If you don't then you will lose muscle which will weaken your joints and slow your metabolism down slowing the rate at which you burn fat. The more lean muscle mass you have on your body, the faster your metabolism will be and the faster your body will burn fat.
    I hope this helps. Keep up the workouts and good luck. You can do it.
  • 00Angela00
    00Angela00 Posts: 1,077 Member
    building muscle does help burn fat, cardio helps a lot with indurance it's a good idea to mix both into your work out. Weight training may cause you to be a bit more sore, but it will get easier and if you stretch properly it shouldn't hurt.
  • Jennplus2
    Jennplus2 Posts: 984 Member
    The "trainer" is full of it.

    It IS calories in, calories out. (Although weights are great for you, and muscle mass at rest burns slightly more than other body mass at rest. )

    Weight loss happens in the eating. If you're at a calorie deficit (even if you're not exercising at all) you'll lose.

    Frankly, shame on that dude.

    Hell ya! That's right, I started out by just not eating fast food and walking more, 3-4 times a week for bout 45miin! I lost weight. Give yourself time. It sometimes takes my body a week or more to show results of extra exercise or bad eating choices. It's not instant. As long as you eat your cals and exercise cals you should be fine. Keep hope, and give dude a diry look from me next time ya see him! :grumble:

    :flowerforyou:
  • Jennplus2
    Jennplus2 Posts: 984 Member
    So you think I should still stick at it and I will lose? Because my scales say I have lost but to be honest I look no difference and my clothes don't seem any different.
    This is so confusing with all this advice coming at me! Maybe he was just trying to get me to buy a training session with him.

    I lost 20 lbs before I could see a diff. 30 lbs before anyone at work said something. He was trying to get a new client! Keep up what you are doing and you will do great.
  • nakrya
    nakrya Posts: 191
    I am so demotivated.
    I joined the gym 18th of Decemeber, have had no caffiene and only alcohol on New Years Eve and thr 4th of Jan.
    I have been doing cardio at the gym, about one hour either on the exercise bike or cross trainer, and then half an hour on the one I did not do the hour on.

    I have been sticking very strictly to low fat, weight watchers food. Despite this I feel no different, feel I look no different (no one has said otherwise) and have only lost a bit of weight.

    I was speaking to someone at the gym today who is a personal trainer, and he said my workout will NOT help me lose weight. He said the only way to lose weight is through building muscle - ie- lifting weights. I don't want to do this as it hurts me.
    He said what I have been doing for the past few weeks will no have helped me lose any weight.

    I thought it was calories in vs calories out. And I burn around 500 calories most times I go to the gym and I go around 4-5 times a week. Please help, I don't understand why he said this workout wouldnt work.
    And why I feel and look no different :(

    I think that as long as you are challenging your body, and 'excercising' you should see results within time. Be realistic, you're not going to drop a ton of weight right away, but try and not feel discouraged by this. I work out with a trainer and I've only lost 10 pounds in 3 months. Was I expecting more? Not at all. I don't focus on the numbers because they will fluctuate. Instead, focus on how your clothes fit and becoming healthier and stronger.

    And a good trainer will never tell you that what you are doing isn't going to help! Like Jennplus said, he was probably just trying to get you as a client! :)

    Good luck!
  • It sounds like you may not be eating enough. Especially if you are frequently eating less than your daily amount!

    Through my own personal experience (I started last Feb and lost 2 stone by September) I find diet is the most important part of fat loss, followed by weight training and then cardio - for cardio I only do interval training.

    I also found the best way to track progress is to measure myself, not weigh myself. I weight once a week and measure myself every two weeks - that's where I really notice the difference. There are so many factors that can affect your weight on the scale, it's really nto the best guide.


    By weight training instead of cardio I have improved my metabloism greatly meaning I don't put weight on as quickly as before and I have greatly improved my shape. In the past when I've tried cardio alone I just became a smaller version of the same shape, and still didn't like how I looked!

    I wouldn't bother with that trainer but it is worth finding a good trainer for at least a couple of sessions to show you how to use weights properly and set you with a routine you can continue by yourself - if lifting weights in uncomfortable or painful you probably aren't doing it right.
  • 34at35
    34at35 Posts: 318
    Do not get demotivated. Here's a nice description of target heart rates from the American Heart Association that should help you.

    Target Heart Rates

    AHA Recommendation
    Health professionals know the importance of proper pacing during exercise. To receive the benefits of physical activity, it's important not to tire too quickly. Pacing yourself is especially important if you've been inactive.

    Target heart rates let you measure your initial fitness level and monitor your progress in a fitness program. This approach requires measuring your pulse periodically as you exercise and staying within 50 to 85 percent of your maximum heart rate. This range is called your target heart rate.

    What is an alternative to target heart rates?

    Some people can't measure their pulse or don't want to take their pulse when exercising. If this is true for you, try using a "conversational pace" to monitor your efforts during moderate activities like walking. If you can talk and walk at the same time, you aren't working too hard. If you can sing and maintain your level of effort, you're probably not working hard enough. If you get out of breath quickly, you're probably working too hard — especially if you have to stop and catch your breath.

    When should I use the target heart rate?

    If you participate in more-vigorous activities like brisk walking and jogging, the "conversational pace" approach may not work. Then try using the target heart rate. It works for many people, and it's a good way for health professionals to monitor your progress.

    The table below shows estimated target heart rates for different ages. Look for the age category closest to yours, then read across to find your target heart rate.

    Age Target HR Zone
    50–85 % Average Maximum Heart Rate 100 %
    20 years 100–170 beats per minute 200 beats per minute
    25 years 98–166 beats per minute 195 beats per minute
    30 years 95–162 beats per minute 190 beats per minute
    35 years 93–157 beats per minute 185 beats per minute
    40 years 90–153 beats per minute 180 beats per minute
    45 years 88–149 beats per minute 175 beats per minute
    50 years 85–145 beats per minute 170 beats per minute
    55 years 83–140 beats per minute 165 beats per minute
    60 years 80–136 beats per minute 160 beats per minute
    65 years 78–132 beats per minute 155 beats per minute
    70 years 75–128 beats per minute 150 beats per minute

    Your maximum heart rate is about 220 minus your age. The figures above are averages, so use them as general guidelines.

    Note: A few high blood pressure medications lower the maximum heart rate and thus the target zone rate. If you're taking such medicine, call your physician to find out if you need to use a lower target heart rate.

    How should I pace myself?

    When starting an exercise program, aim at the lowest part of your target zone (50 percent) during the first few weeks. Gradually build up to the higher part of your target zone (75 percent). After six months or more of regular exercise, you may be able to exercise comfortably at up to 85 percent of your maximum heart rate. However, you don't have to exercise that hard to stay in shape.
  • jdavis193
    jdavis193 Posts: 972 Member
    I am so demotivated.
    I joined the gym 18th of Decemeber, have had no caffiene and only alcohol on New Years Eve and thr 4th of Jan.
    I have been doing cardio at the gym, about one hour either on the exercise bike or cross trainer, and then half an hour on the one I did not do the hour on.

    I have been sticking very strictly to low fat, weight watchers food. Despite this I feel no different, feel I look no different (no one has said otherwise) and have only lost a bit of weight.

    I was speaking to someone at the gym today who is a personal trainer, and he said my workout will NOT help me lose weight. He said the only way to lose weight is through building muscle - ie- lifting weights. I don't want to do this as it hurts me.
    He said what I have been doing for the past few weeks will no have helped me lose any weight.

    I thought it was calories in vs calories out. And I burn around 500 calories most times I go to the gym and I go around 4-5 times a week. Please help, I don't understand why he said this workout wouldnt work.
    And why I feel and look no different :(

    We He didn't spend enough time with you. I actually majored in personal trainer. If he did not get an assesment from you and just going off of his own feelings he is full of CRAP. I think he might be trying to tell you that if you lift you will burn more calories. You can do light weights at home like 5 to 10 lb weights and still build muscle. Eventually you will work up to more. You can still lose with just cardio. You can also build from doing cardio to. Like on treadmill etc just by adjusting the resistance. Don't be discouraged.
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