"big boned"

When most people refer to it, they refer to the "girth" of their bones. Unfortunately people of the same height and frame have relatively the same bone diameter when born. As one gains weight rapidly, the bones adjust by becoming more "dense" and adapt to the stress. People who are obese/overweight have a different gait when they walk compared to someone at an average weight with the same frame. This change in gait, can cause the skeletal structure to adapt the extra stress.

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frame size makes a difference, two people of the same height would not necessarily look good at the same weight.

i like this calculator
http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/fsz

When most people refer to it, they refer to the "girth" of their bones. Unfortunately people of the same height and frame have relatively the same bone diameter when born. As one gains weight rapidly, the bones adjust by becoming more "dense" and adapt to the stress. People who are obese/overweight have a different gait when they walk compared to someone at an average weight with the same frame. This change in gait, can cause the skeletal structure to adapt the extra stress.

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based on what theory did you come to this conclusion?

That makes no sense

frame size makes a difference, two people of the same height would not necessarily look good at the same weight.

i like this calculator
http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/fsz

huh?

Please explain the term frame? Being big boned is nonsense.

I happen to be fat and big-boned, however being big-boned, has nothing to do with me being fat.

I was "big-boned" too. In reality I was just fat.

frame size makes a difference, two people of the same height would not necessarily look good at the same weight.

i like this calculator
http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/fsz

huh?

Please explain the term frame? Being big boned is nonsense.

frame size is how big your skeleton is width wise, as in how wide your actual bones are, and/or how big your rib cage, pelvis and shoulder bones are compared to other people's. This has nothing to do with whether someone is obese, however it can make a difference to what dress size you are when you're at a healthy body fat percentage, and for women, what strap size your bra is (i.e. the number) when you're at a healthy body fat percentage. If you take two women who have the same body fat percentage and one of them is a 38 bra strap size and the other is 32, the first has a large frame the second has a small frame. Also you can tell by the width of your joints, e.g. wrist, elbow etc. This is measuring the width of the bones, not any excess fat.

If you look at the pics on the OP, the thinner woman actually has a larger frame than the fatter one.

This is yet another reason why it's more important to look at body fat percentage than weight. Larger framed people will be heavier at a healthy body fat percentage than a smaller framed person, and it can affect dress size (larger rib cage and pelvis than average = larger size. However none of it explains obesity, it might make a difference between whether you'are a USA size 8 or size 2 when you're at a healthy body fat percentage, but it does not explain being a size 20.

A larger frame or is just the picture of the bigger women zoomed out to show her whole body. I am not saying they're not differences. What I am saying is, that it's used a crunch.

I believed that

Always said to myself, I am quite broad person, heavy set, knew I was lying,

I ain't, I was fat

frame size makes a difference, two people of the same height would not necessarily look good at the same weight.

i like this calculator
http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/fsz

huh?

Please explain the term frame? Being big boned is nonsense.

frame size is how big your skeleton is width wise, as in how wide your actual bones are, and/or how big your rib cage, pelvis and shoulder bones are compared to other people's. This has nothing to do with whether someone is obese, however it can make a difference to what dress size you are when you're at a healthy body fat percentage, and for women, what strap size your bra is (i.e. the number) when you're at a healthy body fat percentage. If you take two women who have the same body fat percentage and one of them is a 38 bra strap size and the other is 32, the first has a large frame the second has a small frame. Also you can tell by the width of your joints, e.g. wrist, elbow etc. This is measuring the width of the bones, not any excess fat.

If you look at the pics on the OP, the thinner woman actually has a larger frame than the fatter one.

This is yet another reason why it's more important to look at body fat percentage than weight. Larger framed people will be heavier at a healthy body fat percentage than a smaller framed person, and it can affect dress size (larger rib cage and pelvis than average = larger size. However none of it explains obesity, it might make a difference between whether you'are a USA size 8 or size 2 when you're at a healthy body fat percentage, but it does not explain being a size 20.

A larger frame or is just the picture of the bigger women zoomed out to show her whole body. I am not saying they're not differences. What I am saying is, that it's used a crunch.

It's hard to tell in those pics because they're scaled down and there's no way to tell if they've been scaled down by the same amount, but there are differences in size of bones between different people. Everyone does not have the exact same width skeleton (or perfectly scaled down for shorter people) - there's variation in pretty much everything. Some people have bigger pelvises, rib cages etc than others, and wider joints than others etc, and shorter people are not usually perfectly scaled down models of bigger people, they may have shorter limbs and a larger torso, they may be shorter but just as wide (skeletally) as a taller person, and of course both tall and short people can have larger or smaller frames. But these variations are not that much, you're looking at a few extra inches around the chest or pelvis, maybe 2-3 dress/clothing sizes. No-one's skeleton is *that* much bigger or smaller than average.

I totally agree that it's used as an excuse by many people, large frame does not explain having too much body fat or being several sizes bigger than average.

My opinion though is that people should just forget about frame size and weight, and simply aim to have a body fat percentage that's in the healthy range. If you have a large frame and also lift weights a lot, you could end up in the overweight (or, rarely, obese) category while having a healthy body fat percentage. If you know that your body fat percentage is in the healthy range, then go with that. If you don't know your body fat percentage then how can you really say that you're in the overweight/obese range because of your frame size, muscle, or simply excess body fat? IMO body fat % is far more reliable and that's what people should aim for.

I have a large frame (short + big rib cage runs in my family) and a healthy body fat percentage, and I'm in the higher end of the normal range for BMI. I'd like to gain more muscle (my current goal), so I may end up in the borderline or overweight range while my body fat percentage is still in the healthy range if I work really, really hard at weight training. Though I'm aiming to lose more fat as well (not concurrently) i.e. be in the lower end of the healthy body fat percentage range, so I'm not expecting to be heavier than I am now when I reach my goal body composition. But my focus is on body fat percentage, not weight.

the first pic looks like a man anyway, 2nd looks female.

I know that I personally do have a larger frame.
My wrists ever since I was a kid have been wider... Plus I have wide shoulders and hips as well.

I have never used that as an excuse to my weight though, that just seems ridiculous.
My weight is due to fat, not due to my bone structure.

EDIT : Just tried that frame calculator too, and it did in fact tell me I have a large frame.

I do have a large frame, and I've never used that as an excuse. I know I'm fat. I do get sad thinking that no matter what I'll never look as good as my stick friends who for sure have small frames, but I can get close and that's a good enough reason for me.

My friend doesn't think he can make it to a healthy BMI because he's just 'shaped that way' and doesn't REALLY have that much to lose. I'm not sure how he can tell himself that when he was tiny in his youth.