For those who have lost a lot of weight -- skin question
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Men, get down to around 10-12% body fat before you start considering surgery or anything drastic. Women, get down to 15-17% body fat before taking any surgical steps.
You do realize that 15-17% body fat for most women will shut down menstruation, right?
"Columbia University Health Services states that some experts believe women need 17 percent body fat to start menstruating and 22 percent body fat to keep menstrual cycles functioning normally."
The ideal body fat percentage for most women is between 17% and 25% so please do not spread misinformation.0 -
Just because the man (Mark Sisson) owns a vitamin store, doesn't mean he knows anything, sorry. It says he studied "pre med" (wiki) but no meediical school... I know a lot of people who studied "pre-med" and didn't have the grades to get into medical school. Some are the dumbest people that I ever met. One works for UPS now... has a degree in bio-chemistry/pre-md. Would I trust his info on diet and nutrition? DEFINITELY NO!!!
Best to quote people who are actually educated in the field and to list references for studies. I don't know if the "studies" you are quoting actually have substance or merit, sorry...
Eating fatty meats isn't good for your heart:(I just recently saved some links to my blog regarding this topic. I am recognizing many of the tips people are posting from the article I recently read. Here are highlights I save for myself followed by the link to read the full article:
How to Tighten Loose Skin After Weight Loss
As you lose fat and your loose skin begins to appear, the first rule is: don’t panic! Because it is a living organ, your skin will slowly return to a shape that fits your new body. But since that process can take up to two years, here are steps you can take to make your skin tighten more quickly:
Tip #1: Don’t Lose Weight Too Quickly
In addition to weight loss, age, poor nutrition, dehydration, excessive sun exposure, and smoking can all affect the elasticity of the skin.
Crash diets and excessive amounts of time spent exercising can rapidly shed both muscle and fat, resulting in a double-whammy on your skin--the supportive underlying muscular structure that holds skin against your body is lost, as is the fat that keeps the skin stretched out. Quick and dirty tip for not losing weight too quickly: Aim for 1-2 pounds of fat loss per week, and make sure your weight loss program includes weight lifting so that you do not lose lean muscle. Check out more weight lifting and strength training tips here.
Tip #2: Stay Hydrated
Attend to your hydration needs. Water is a crucial component of maintaining skin elasticity. From both food and drink, you should be taking in at least two liters of water each day. A wonderful resource for learning more about proper hydration is this article from Nutrition Diva: How Much Water Should I Drink?
Tip #3: Eat Properly
Two necessary ingredients that keep skin plump and elastic are collagen and elastin. Protein-rich foods such as cottage cheese, milk, legumes, tofu, beans, seeds, nuts, and fish all contain collagen and elastin forming components, as well as oils to help maintain healthy skin. Quick and dirty protein tip: For optimum absorption, squeeze 100-200 calories of these protein sources in immediately after your workout. For more on what to eat when working out, see my article on what to eat before and after exercising.
Tip #4: Take Care of Your Skin
Nourish and care for your skin. Daily exfoliation can help to remove dead skin cells and increase skin circulation. A hot bath with sea salts and minerals can improve skin tone. Skin tightening creams with herbal formulas and ingredients such as aloe vera, hyaluronic acid, yeast extract, soy protein, vitamin C, vitamin E and vitamin A can help to hydrate and increase collagen and elastin formation in skin.
Stay away from harsh detergents, such a sulfates in soaps, shampoos and dishwashing liquids, limit your sun exposure and stay away from tanning booths, and limit your exposure to hot and chlorinated water—all of these things will decrease skin elasticity. Quick and dirty tip: If you swim for fitness, use soap and shampoos that are specially designed to remove chlorine.
http://getfitguy.quickanddirtytips.com/how-to-tighten-loose-skin-after-weight-loss.aspx
Men, get down to around 10-12% body fat before you start considering surgery or anything drastic. Women, get down to 15-17% body fat before taking any surgical steps.
First and foremost, any weight loss regimen must be accompanied by resistance training. Yeah, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: you have to be lifting heavy things in order for the best things to happen to your body composition. There are a few genetic outliers who can put on muscle as easily as breathing, but those folks probably won’t have the problem of loose skin anyway. For the rest of us, however, we need to lift weights in order to maintain and/or build lean mass during weight loss. If your loose skin is caused by a rapid diminishing of body mass, packing on a bit more mass in the form of muscle can mitigate the problem
One study found that dietary gelatin improved skin elasticity (PDF). Eating real bone broth, fatty gelatin-rich meats like oxtail, poultry feet, or short ribs, or even using gelatin powder as a supplement might be able to restore or preserve skin elasticity. You’re already getting dietary gelatin anyway, right?
Another study found that a proprietary blend of nutrients, including selenium (salmon, brazil nuts, seafood), zinc (oysters, red meat), vitamin C (vegetables, fruit, raw liver), and various carotenoids (fruits and vegetables, red palm oil), was effective at increasing skin elasticity.
Vitamin C is important for collagen formation, which is vital for skin elasticity. Make sure to get enough vitamin C.
If weight loss occurs and you’re at a low-enough body fat percentage to determine that you truly have excess skin, give it several months before you turn to the scalpel. My guess is that for Primal eaters who are eating a nutrient-dense diet (including plenty of the aforementioned nutrients), truly excess skin won’t be as big a problem as it might be for the general dieter."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-to-get-rid-of-excess-skin-after-major-weight-loss/#ixzz24ZiR7Hy0
"Subjects randomized to oral
supplementation with gelatin, and
combination borage seed oil/fish oil
demonstrated greater skin elasticity
at the end of the study than at
baseline as measured by cutometry.
Those subjects supplemented with
green tea had increased skin
conductance and decreased
perivascular inflammation. Those
subjects supplemented with gotu
kola, and hyaluronic acid for 8
weeks did not improve TEWL, skin
conductance or elasticity."
http://www.nuskin.com/global/library/pdf/products/tegreen_study_01.pdf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Cheri_M/view/excess-skin-after-weight-loss-4124620 -
I don't mean to be discouraging...but I have loose skin on my arms and the tummy apron mess...I was over 320 pounds for 10 years though. Now at 200 I can say the skin is much better deflated than loaded with fat. I have noticed it is pulling up ever so slightly with continued weight loss...so mayb e after two years it will go most of the way back? Either way...I am lighter...the skin is no worse than before I lost weight.0
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Try it and see. There is no use worrying about something until you get there and even then if you can't do anything about then no worries.0
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Slow weight loss has been good for me. I'm almost at goal and I have some loose skin. My tummy area not as much as I thought,,but my thighs and arms. And I'm 63...it is what it is, for me at least. I'm just glad I'm so healthy and getting ore and more fit each day!0
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Yeah don't want to be a voice of negativity but this is not a one size fits all kind of a question... It really is going to come down to individual basis. Having said that the factors that come into play are Your age, Your max weight, How long your carried that weight, Genetics, Your skins elasticity, How fast you lost it does come into play.... I am speaking from my experience, and I was alot heavier than alot on here (not all but at 560 lbs. I had to be in the top percentage) My weight has been up and down since i was a kid but the majority of my weight was during the last 10-12 years of my life. I started my new life on May 2009 and since then have lost 311 lbs. over the last 38 months which avg. out to 2 lbs. a week. I have been drinking tons of water over that time, been doing both cardio and strength training, and using cocoa butter as well. But I have been left with a boat load of loose skin around my torso and inner thighs. I do have some in my bicep area and chest (but can live with those areas) but the rest I knew (could tell my looking in the mirror) some intervention was going to be needed. I am scheduled for a circumferential body lift on September 24th and will have 12-20 lbs. (surgeon is estimating) of loose skin removed. So in my opinion do all the things that have been mentioned (they do work and/or help) but everyone may have different results in the end. I knew early on so I spent the last 3 years paying off our vehicles to make room to be able to take a loan out to pay for this surgery... I have worked far to hard to be hindered by this loose skin issue. Plus even after all this weight loss I still have body image issue and avoid mirrors cause I do not like what i see.... I made a blog and a you tube channel to document where I have come from and the up coming surgery both Pre and Post-op....... Best of Luck on you Journey....0
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I lost about 90 lbs back in 2001-ish, but I was also 21, drank a lot of water, lost it slow, and worked out a lot.
I don't have any loose skin and I didn't carry most of my weight in my stomach, but I did wind up with some killer stretch marks on my thighs, arms, and breast. I moisturized for a while then just left them and they have pretty much faded now0 -
As my Dr. told me, if you've lost more than 100 lbs, the body just isn't resilient enough to overcome all that extra skin.
Lotions might help, the jury is still out. Water is good, but won't fix it. Exercise certainly will tone up underneath the skin, but not the skin itself...
Which leads to the ugly...surgery. I think I'm gonna have to go that route, but man, it's super pricey0 -
Thanks for the tips! I know it is all going to depend on where I am at my goal but figured I would see if there were any tips so I don't say I wish I would have known that before0
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I recently saved some links regarding this topic:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Cheri_M/view/excess-skin-after-weight-loss-4124620 -
I guess a lot of us have this in the back of our minds. Thank you to Ed Davenport for sharing his story and congrats on your success!
As someone at the older end of the age and elasticity scale, I'm trying to do everything I see listed! I've increased water, I will switch to cocoa butter, I've been doing the dry brushing, I've been losing it slowly and all of my muscles are currently sore from strength training! I've also read that Omega capsules and gelatin can help. So, I've added that! Just trying to cover my bases...and I'm not kidding. I HOPE to let you know in about a year to 18 months if it worked. I hope all of you will as well!
BUT! The truth is still that sagging skin can't be as bad as carrying all of these extra pounds! My dual goals are losing weight and improving my health. No matter how saggy I get, I WILL be healthier!0 -
I have a c-section tummy x2 I have hope though, I am going to go down the lose bodyfat route, low bodyfat, muscle definition and of course patience and if all else fails then perhaps a mini tummy tuck, but am hoping not to have to ......0
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