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Help! Eat to weigh less explanation....

ashleydo
ashleydo Posts: 6 Member
edited December 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Hi everyone! I've been trying to read about this eat to weigh less and I've read so many things I am getting confused! I lost about 40 pounds doing Weight Watchers and was considering not paying for WW anymore and using MFP but I want to understand more about counting calories since points and calories seem to be a little different.

I weigh 137 lbs and workout at a bootcamp class for 45 minutes a day 3-4 days a week. My goal weight is 120lbs. I know that my BMR is 1,256 calories/day. I am currently set to eat 1,200 calories/day but I was reading about this eat to weigh less group and was considering increasing my calorie intake. Can someone explain to me what my calorie intake should be if I want to continue to lose 1lb/ week and how the TDEE? Also, are you supposed to eat your exercise calories back?

Thanks for any help/advice you can give!

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  • zechks
    zechks Posts: 224
    Hi everyone! I've been trying to read about this eat to weigh less and I've read so many things I am getting confused! I lost about 40 pounds doing Weight Watchers and was considering not paying for WW anymore and using MFP but I want to understand more about counting calories since points and calories seem to be a little different.

    I weigh 137 lbs and workout at a bootcamp class for 45 minutes a day 3-4 days a week. My goal weight is 120lbs. I know that my BMR is 1,256 calories/day. I am currently set to eat 1,200 calories/day but I was reading about this eat to weigh less group and was considering increasing my calorie intake. Can someone explain to me what my calorie intake should be if I want to continue to lose 1lb/ week and how the TDEE? Also, are you supposed to eat your exercise calories back?

    Thanks for any help/advice you can give!

    Try to eat 500 less cals of your TDEE everyday to lose 1lb a week. You can't eat less than your BMR, because it's the calories your body needs on a resting state, like when you are in a coma.. Since you're not and you workout, your body needs more. So get your TDEE (there's an online calculator for that) then eat 500cals below that everyday. :)
    And also you may want to include the cardio in counting the caloric deficit.
  • amnsetie
    amnsetie Posts: 666 Member


    Try to eat 500 less cals of your TDEE everyday to lose 1lb a week. You can't eat less than your BMR, because it's the calories your body needs on a resting state, like when you are in a coma.. Since you're not and you workout, your body needs more. So get your TDEE (there's an online calculator for that) then eat 500cals below that everyday. :)
    use the mfp tdee calculator and eat your exercise calories. (most of them, leave a margin for error is what most people will tell you)
    the eat more people are mostly saying you can eat more if you exercise more and you get better healthier results.

    if you use another calculator it may already include exercise. don't double count your exercise.
  • ashleydo
    ashleydo Posts: 6 Member
    Thans you guys for giving your input!

    If you eat below your BMR, does your body go into "starvation mode" and slow your metabolism? If MFP has set my calorie goal to 1,200 and I exercise but don't eat my exercise calories, will this slow down my weight loss since I am going below my BMR?
  • ashleydo
    ashleydo Posts: 6 Member
    When I use MFP to calculate my BMR it gives me 1256/day. When I use other websites it tells me that my BMR is 1400 calories/day. When I set up my goals in MFP it still tells me that I should eat 1200 calories/day based on my age, weight, and height. I work at a desk job mainly so I put sedentary, although I normally workout for 45 min 3-4 days/week. If I put in the goal calculator that I do not plan to do any workouts but I actually do, do I just need to put those exercises in when I do them and eat those back? If I include them in my goal calculation, I don't need to eat them, correct?
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    Hey there...

    MFP will not allow your daily calories to go under 1,200 a day due to legal reasons. That is an incredibly low amount and MFP does not want to get sued for suggesting people become anorexic. So, they chose 1200 as an arbitrary floor number.

    Starvation mode only occurs in severe caloric restriction with very low levels of body fat. You will not be in starvation mode if you eat nothing for a day for example. Your body may make slight adjustments after a few days without food, but it is not as severe as true starvation mode.

    Your goal calculation does not include work outs. MFP does not add that in. YOU have to add it in when you do them. MFP just asks so it can help you keep track of your exercise. You can eat back work out calories because MFP already calculated in your goal weight loss caloric deficit. But, due to inaccuracies, should only eat back about half of them.

    Eating more to weigh less is something people like myself get the most from. Every time I'd try to lose weight, I'd eat VERY little, almost no protein, all veggies, and exercise a ton. That doesn't get one very far. So, by eating more, I am getting a better balance in my diet and now losing weight at a decent pace.

    If MFP is giving you 1200 a day, it is likely your weekly weight loss goals are too ambitious. Choose a slower weight loss goal.

    Most important thing of anything is to TRACK AND LOG everything you eat. Many people here have many different ways of exercising, eating, etc, but we all agree... LOG IT ALL.
  • GauchoMark
    GauchoMark Posts: 1,804 Member
    ok, so here's the deal with "eat more to lose".

    First off, there is a TON of confusion about it and there are a lot of people on here that think they know all and "their body is special" and they can cheat science somehow by creating energy from nothing. You'll hear people talking about starvation mode or that it is myth, etc. The fact is, no one REALLY know how it all works. There are lots of PhD's spending their lives researching human metabolism on a daily basis and they don't know it all. All that said, here's my take on it (not saying it is correct, but this is how I understand it).

    This entire concept is about energy in = energy out + accumulation. This is a basic concept in thermodynamics and applies to the entire world. Essentially, the energy that comes out of a system can't be more than the energy that went into the system. This makes a lot of sense if you think about it. Like your car - you fill it up with 10 gallons of gas, that amount of gas contains a certain amount of energy, depending on how efficient your car is determines how far your get on 10 gallons.

    Your body is biological, so it can adapt to an extent. When your body has plenty of food available, it processes the food inefficiently and your activities expend a lot of energy. As you start decreasing calories consumed, your body continues to convert food inefficiently and burn calories inefficiently for a while and you lose weight relatively quickly. However, if you stay at a deficit for long periods of time or restrict your calories by a lot for a decent period of time, your body adapts to not having all that much food and starts getting more efficient. This is your body's survival technique for dealing with periods of time when we were cavemen and plentiful food was seasonal. This SLOWS the weight loss because your body is better at conserving energy. If your calorie deficit is within the range that your body can adapt to, you stop losing weight, but if not, you continue to lose, just at a slower rate.

    The concept of eating more to lose weight is basically the goal of eating enough that your body continues to be inefficient so you lose weight quickly, but not eating so much that you stop losing weight. It is essentially targeting the conditions that make your body as inefficient as possible (from an energy standpoint).

    Here is where the strong opinions and confusion come in. What happens when your body gets more efficient and goes into "starvation mode"? So now your body can function on less calories and your bmr isn't right anymore. If you decrease your calories more will you lose weight? The answer is yes - eventually. Otherwise, there would not be starving people in the world. If our bodies could create energy from nothing, no one would die from starvation. Think of starvation as running out of energy until your body can't continue to function. Once the food and fat reserves are gone - you die. Period. Your body can make small adaptations to help us through the tough times, but it can't create energy. Obviously, none of us on this site will likely ever get anywhere close to that extreme, but the fact remains that no matter how efficient your body is, if you restrict calories enough, you lose fat.

    So, if you get into "starvation mode", should you increase calories? It is a personal preference, and I prefer to do that. I'd rather keep my body inefficient and eat more and feel better than to starve myself even more. So the idea of eating more to lose is to simply to restrict calories enough to lose weight, but keep your body inefficient. It is a pretty narrow window.
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