Low-carb diet gets more support from new analysis

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  • ColoradoRobin
    ColoradoRobin Posts: 510 Member
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    Some people respond better to low fat high carb diets, while others do better with low carb. I had heartburn all the time on a Weight Watchers diet many years ago (the plan has changed a lot since then). The version I did was very low fat and high carb. I was constantly hungry, felt lousy, and lost very little weight.

    My doctor later recommended a low carb diet for me based on my blood tests and family history. It let me lose 60 lbs while feeling great and not starving. My blood tests showed a huge improvement as well. Your body can make glucose from proteins and fats, so your brain gets the fuel it needs. I slowly regained some of that weight over the next 10 years, but didn't have an immediate weight gain when transitioning to maintenance.

    So low carb works for some, low fat works for others. Do what works for you in consultation with your doctor.
  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,143 Member
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    NO weight loss plan is the be all/end all. Low carb, low cal, low fat, eat what you want, etc...

    Whatever works for YOU is all that matters! I eat low carb. It works...its IS sustainable. And I enjoy myself.

    So, whats the argument?
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
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    After reading your profile, I'm surprised that you aren't getting this. I'm a binge eater, I'm an emotional eater. I HAVE to limit foods. I actually have to keep certain foods completely OUT of my house. And if that's the way I have to live in order to be at a healthy weight/emotional state, then so be it. I'm actually not low carb at all, I'm just not a bread/pasta person so it's no big deal for me. I have been emotionally RELEASED from many issues since keeping foods out of my house, examples...peanut butter/sweets/sugary cereals. I don't think about these foods anymore and when they were in my house I did, non stop.

    I'm ok without these foods. I don't need them. :)
    I have no problem limiting bread and pasta for the rest of my life...LIMITING it. Nothing wrong with that.

    Why LIMIT foods you enjoy? Do you really want to be conscious of every carbohydrate gram you ever consume? There is nothing like freshly baked bread or fresh pasta...and have you seen the statistics for the general public health of most Europeans who eat this stuff every day? People can live long, healthy lives eating real food (including carbs) in normal portions with some daily activity, enough water and sleep. That's it. Nothing complicated...all these diets are called 'fads' for a reason.

    I suffered with BED for a year and a half, and it was horrible...it developed AFTER I'd lost 50lbs by limiting myself too much! It took me a few months to recover from it, and I only recovered by giving myself freedom where food is concerned. I consider myself totally recovered now & have realised that binge eating isn't down to the food, its down to emotional connections to particular foods (for me and most people, this is carbs, because carbs are our bodies primary source of fuel and are the easiest to digest).

    It is for this exact reason that I totally disagree with low carb! It always results in binges for so many of my friends on here & friends in real life trying to lose weight...they eat low carb for a week or two then BOOM, massive carb binge. This is such a dangerous & unhealthy pattern to fall into, trust me x
  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,143 Member
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    It always results in binges for so many of my friends on here & friends in real life trying to lose weight...they eat low carb for a week or two then BOOM, massive carb binge. This is such a dangerous & unhealthy pattern to fall into, trust me x

    Nope....maybe for your friends, but not for me. I never binge and I have been doing it for months. For me, it is a life saver.
  • maremare312
    maremare312 Posts: 1,143 Member
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    Low-carb diets ALWAYS fail in the LONG run...ALWAYS! Who eats low carb until they die? You'd want to be crazy to deprive yourself of your bodies natural brain fuel (every cell in the human brain runs on glucose!). I just don't get it. There is so much info out there on how detrimental these low carb bull**** diets are for your health. And the reason they lead to weight loss are actually terrifying when you look into the science behind it! It may have short term benefits, but seriously, who is going to limit FRUIT, bread, pasta etc etc for the rest of their entire lives?


    NOBODY. Or crazy people, of course. :laugh:

    Using any kind of absolute just makes you sound ignorant. (Absolutes are never, always, nobody, etc. Just realized you might not know that). Just because you don't get something doesn't mean it's wrong.. Maybe you haven't done any research on it and that's why you don't get it. If it doesn't work for you, that's fine, but it obviously works for others. You seem very uninformed. Here's some of the reasons why it may work~

    --Stops the cravings cycle from eating sugar and other refined carbs, (ie, controls binge eating)
    --Stops cravings so you eat less overall; just anotehr form of calorie reduction
    --More protein leaves you fuller, so you eat less calories overall.
    --More fat leaves you full and satiated, so you eat less calories overall.

    I think most diets would say that cutting out sugar is a good step. Guess what? Sugar is a carb.
  • bownut
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    Lyra89 ... get your facts straight, Dr. Atkins had a heart attack at age 71 from cardiomyopathy, a infection of muscle tissue not blockage caused by the diet he promoted. He was also not obese. He died from his head injuries after suffering a fall. The original post was just information. Everyone can choose for themselves. What works for you doesn't work for someone else. If you binge on carbs after limiting them, that is your problem, not everyone's problem. Each person is different.
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
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    Eat whatever you want, seriously. Life should be enjoyed. :smile:

    Yay! free for all!

    Oh wait. This is how I got fat. I think you meant, eat mostly good stuff and fill in the gaps with whatever you want
    :flowerforyou:

    No, I meant what I said, good. :)
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
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    i have always been a fan of the Atkins diet, ever since i first tried it back when Sky started selling the Atkins answer pack around 5 or 6 years ago. i totally bought into the philosophy behind it and it works!

    i had so much negativity from anyone who heard i was doing it, oh that is so unhealthy... etc, i would always challenge them to tell me what was unhealthy about anything i was eating, and asked them what they based their opinion upon, usually it was scare mongering in the press

    i am always sceptical when i see reports which are anti low carb, the press is full of propaganda from other affiliates, those whose diets follow low fat low calorie regimes. BUT, what i find really interesting is, those mainstream diets like sw and ww, now both have plans that follow a low carb regime if you want to, the sw red days etc and ww simply filling or filling and healthy as it is now called are pale imitations of the old Atkins plan, though they do have carbs but limit them to jacket potato and brown rice & pasta.

    Dr Atkins book explained that triglycerides and lipids would improve on the plan and also blood pressure cholesterol etc so its not really new, just nice that other studies are at least coming on board..

    HA. Dr Atkins died of a massive heart attack & was morbidly obese when he died, after following his own plan.
    You keep making yourself look less and less informed. He did not die of a heart attack. And by the way he also ate carbs. He simply promoted limiting them for weight loss.

    I've read a lot of books and watched a lot of documentaries in which it was stated he DID die of a heart attack and was very unhealthy before he died, & also that he was grossly overweight...I recall quotations by doctors Neil Barnard & John McDougall, whose work I admire greatly.
  • AllTehBeers
    AllTehBeers Posts: 5,030 Member
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    Low-carb diets ALWAYS fail in the LONG run...ALWAYS! Who eats low carb until they die? You'd want to be crazy to deprive yourself of your bodies natural brain fuel (every cell in the human brain runs on glucose!). I just don't get it. There is so much info out there on how detrimental these low carb bull**** diets are for your health. And the reason they lead to weight loss are actually terrifying when you look into the science behind it! It may have short term benefits, but seriously, who is going to limit FRUIT, bread, pasta etc etc for the rest of their entire lives?


    NOBODY. Or crazy people, of course. :laugh:

    Using any kind of absolute just makes you sound ignorant. (Absolutes are never, always, nobody, etc. Just realized you might not know that). Just because you don't get something doesn't mean it's wrong.. Maybe you haven't done any research on it and that's why you don't get it. If it doesn't work for you, that's fine, but it obviously works for others. You seem very uninformed. Here's some of the reasons why it may work~

    --Stops the cravings cycle from eating sugar and other refined carbs, (ie, controls binge eating)
    --Stops cravings so you eat less overall; just anotehr form of calorie reduction
    --More protein leaves you fuller, so you eat less calories overall.
    --More fat leaves you full and satiated, so you eat less calories overall.

    I think most diets would say that cutting out sugar is a good step. Guess what? Sugar is a carb.

    Absolutes are nobody's friend. While I don't think low carb is a good choice for myself, I don't disregard someone else's personal choice to do so.
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
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    Low-carb diets ALWAYS fail in the LONG run...ALWAYS! Who eats low carb until they die? You'd want to be crazy to deprive yourself of your bodies natural brain fuel (every cell in the human brain runs on glucose!). I just don't get it. There is so much info out there on how detrimental these low carb bull**** diets are for your health. And the reason they lead to weight loss are actually terrifying when you look into the science behind it! It may have short term benefits, but seriously, who is going to limit FRUIT, bread, pasta etc etc for the rest of their entire lives?


    NOBODY. Or crazy people, of course. :laugh:


    Using any kind of absolute just makes you sound ignorant. (Absolutes are never, always, nobody, etc. Just realized you might not know that). Just because you don't get something doesn't mean it's wrong.. Maybe you haven't done any research on it and that's why you don't get it. If it doesn't work for you, that's fine, but it obviously works for others. You seem very uninformed. Here's some of the reasons why it may work~

    --Stops the cravings cycle from eating sugar and other refined carbs, (ie, controls binge eating)
    --Stops cravings so you eat less overall; just anotehr form of calorie reduction
    --More protein leaves you fuller, so you eat less calories overall.
    --More fat leaves you full and satiated, so you eat less calories overall.

    I think most diets would say that cutting out sugar is a good step. Guess what? Sugar is a carb.


    It works for everyone, in the short term, but works for NOBODY in the long term, that is my point. Find me a healthy, thin, fit person who has been eating low-carb for 50+ years and I'll take that back, but I've never heard of anybody succeeding long-term on low carb nor spoken with one online.
  • maremare312
    maremare312 Posts: 1,143 Member
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    I wish I was 23 again and knew everything :(
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
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    I wish I was 23 again and knew everything :(

    Very funny :tongue:

    Read the science, people. I read books on nutrition in my spare time just because I find it interesting...high protein diets & people's misconceptions of what protein is, what it does in the body & how much we actually need...don't even get me started! Ahhh! :laugh: Night guys :wink:
  • Need2bfit918
    Need2bfit918 Posts: 133 Member
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    I wish I was 23 again and knew everything :(

    Very funny :tongue:

    Read the science, people. I read books on nutrition in my spare time just because I find it interesting...high protein diets & people's misconceptions of what protein is, what it does in the body & how much we actually need...don't even get me started! Ahhh! :laugh: Night guys :wink:
    you mean like those great books you read that cant even get cause of death correct? when those authors have so little intellectual honesty on that ,what else are they leaving out? by the way im low carb and im doing great.
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
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    I wish I was 23 again and knew everything :(

    Very funny :tongue:

    Read the science, people. I read books on nutrition in my spare time just because I find it interesting...high protein diets & people's misconceptions of what protein is, what it does in the body & how much we actually need...don't even get me started! Ahhh! :laugh: Night guys :wink:
    you mean like those great books you read that cant even get cause of death correct? when those authors have so little intellectual honesty on that what else are they leaving out? by the way im low carb and im doing great.

    ...for now. :wink:
  • yancymichele
    yancymichele Posts: 66 Member
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  • youallonsy
    youallonsy Posts: 95 Member
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    HA. Dr Atkins died of a massive heart attack & was morbidly obese when he died, after following his own plan.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/apr/18/2

    Dr. Atkins died following a fall.

    It is a good idea to do a little research before posting.
  • Loulady
    Loulady Posts: 511 Member
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    Low-carb diets ALWAYS fail in the LONG run...ALWAYS! Who eats low carb until they die? You'd want to be crazy to deprive yourself of your bodies natural brain fuel (every cell in the human brain runs on glucose!). I just don't get it. There is so much info out there on how detrimental these low carb bull**** diets are for your health. And the reason they lead to weight loss are actually terrifying when you look into the science behind it! It may have short term benefits, but seriously, who is going to limit FRUIT, bread, pasta etc etc for the rest of their entire lives?


    NOBODY. Or crazy people, of course. :laugh:

    Lots of people, actually.
  • trinitrate
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    It works for everyone, in the short term, but works for NOBODY in the long term, that is my point. Find me a healthy, thin, fit person who has been eating low-carb for 50+ years and I'll take that back, but I've never heard of anybody succeeding long-term on low carb nor spoken with one online.

    If you read any of the low-carb diets, they're not ultra restrictive for life... You start very very low and gradually add them back in until you find a balance that is right -for you- understanding that people will have different thresholds that will help them maintain long term.

    Very few people even attempt to go ultra-low for life. The reason there are so many failure stories on Atkins isn't because it doesnt work, its because people reach their goal and ignore the rest of the diet... The point isnt to treat the plan like a diet pill to be disgarded when you're done, but to find a balance between carbs and protein that will allow you to maintain long term and to stick with it. It can be done, and is done by a lot of people.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
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    I've read a lot of books and watched a lot of documentaries in which it was stated he DID die of a heart attack and was very unhealthy before he died, & also that he was grossly overweight...I recall quotations by doctors Neil Barnard & John McDougall, whose work I admire greatly.

    You don't have a CLUE.

    EDUCATE Yourself.

    Words from Dr Atkins WIFE:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-02-10-atkins-statements_x.htm
    But here is the truth: my husband's medical records have been reviewed by knowledgeable doctors and his medical condition discussed with cardiac specialists. It is clear that Dr. Atkins developed a condition called cardiomyopathy approximately three years prior to his death. It is also true that when Robert developed cardiomyopathy his coronary arteries showed only minimal and clinically insignificant signs of coronary artery disease, consistent with what would be expected in a 69-year old man. Cardiomyopathy is a serious and progressive condition and was, I have been told, in Robert's case, caused by a viral infection. Though this condition significantly weakened his heart, its cause was clearly related to an infection and not his diet.

    It is also clear that my husband's death resulted from a serious head injury that occurred April 8th, 2003. Hospital records obviously and unequivocally detail the unfortunate clinical course that transpired following arrival of Emergency Medical Services through the entirety of hospitalization, confirming that after losing consciousness en route to the hospital, Robert's condition failed to improve despite emergency neurosurgical treatment for bleeding within his head. In life, Dr. Atkins was adamant about not wanting life support and when his wishes were honored, and ventilator life support was withdrawn on April 17th, he passed away as has been widely reported in the media.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
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    Yeah, it obviously doesn't work for anyone long term.

    Look at this wonderful woman who has been on Atkins for over 10 YEARS

    http://www.sugarfreesheila.com/

    Please be quiet, you don't have the slightest clue as to what you are talking about.

    Low-carb diets ALWAYS fail in the LONG run...ALWAYS! Who eats low carb until they die? You'd want to be crazy to deprive yourself of your bodies natural brain fuel (every cell in the human brain runs on glucose!). I just don't get it. There is so much info out there on how detrimental these low carb bull**** diets are for your health. And the reason they lead to weight loss are actually terrifying when you look into the science behind it! It may have short term benefits, but seriously, who is going to limit FRUIT, bread, pasta etc etc for the rest of their entire lives?


    NOBODY. Or crazy people, of course. :laugh:


    Using any kind of absolute just makes you sound ignorant. (Absolutes are never, always, nobody, etc. Just realized you might not know that). Just because you don't get something doesn't mean it's wrong.. Maybe you haven't done any research on it and that's why you don't get it. If it doesn't work for you, that's fine, but it obviously works for others. You seem very uninformed. Here's some of the reasons why it may work~

    --Stops the cravings cycle from eating sugar and other refined carbs, (ie, controls binge eating)
    --Stops cravings so you eat less overall; just anotehr form of calorie reduction
    --More protein leaves you fuller, so you eat less calories overall.
    --More fat leaves you full and satiated, so you eat less calories overall.

    I think most diets would say that cutting out sugar is a good step. Guess what? Sugar is a carb.


    It works for everyone, in the short term, but works for NOBODY in the long term, that is my point. Find me a healthy, thin, fit person who has been eating low-carb for 50+ years and I'll take that back, but I've never heard of anybody succeeding long-term on low carb nor spoken with one online.