news buzz. organic foods not sig. different nutritionally
taylor5877
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Bypass the spin, here's the article. Article has been blowing up news outlets lately.
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1355685
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1355685
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someone already posted this and *SHOCK* or not... I mean did anyone really think that anyway?0
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sorry, missed the OP...I would have expected an epic war on here over this one.0
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sorry, missed the OP...I would have expected an epic war on here over this one.
Only between those who already knew this and those who refuse to accept it. There was another thread and it doesn't matter how much evidence or logic you use.. people are going to believe whatever they want sadly.0 -
I don't think it's exactly a revelation. But I wouldn't have expected organic foods to be any different from non-organic foods nutritionally anyway. I mean, why would you expect that? The more compelling question is the level of pesticides and trace chemicals found on foods. I didn't read the article yet, but did see a brief report on it on the news this morning, and from what I understand, they found that there ARE more chemicals on non-organic foods but that the levels are so low as to be simply trace elements and are considered to be harmless to people in those amounts.
But that's what the FDA has ALWAYS been saying about pesticides, so it's more a question of how much you trust the FDA. :?
Personally, I think it would be nice if all foods were grown organically anyway, and if people could / would either grow some of their own produce (saves money!) and / or buy locally grown produce. It would also be nice if all cows, chickens, and pigs were raised free range, frolicking on happy, green farms, never in cages, and were always slaughtered humanely. But we all know that's not how it works, and just because something is labeled "organic" you can't always know how closely that vendor has adhered to the standards.
I buy some organic, some not, and that's what I'll continue to do. I love our local farmer's market and try to shop there as much as possible, including for meat, as one of the vendors will deliver even into the winter months. It's actually kind of more important to me to shop local as opposed to organic, but that's just me. Anything that I'm going to eat the "skin" of - strawberries, apples, etc., I try to get organic as much as possible.
If you're interested in a great memoir - and not particularly a food treatise but more of family story, check out The Orchard by Theresa Weir. Wonderful, short, moving book,and like I said, not really ABOUT farming or organic / pesticide questions per se, but once you read about what happened (and it is a true story) to her husband and his family over decades of farming an apple orchard, might make you think a little differently about how much of even those minimal "trace" chemical elements you want to be consuming over the course of your life. No one is going to eliminate all chemicals from their lifestyle, and really, you wouldn't want to because some can be helpful! But that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile to try to cut down on some of the exposure. JM2C.0 -
I have never chosen organic foods because I thought they were nutritionally better. I have chosen certain organic foods because I wanted less exposure to pesticides. I have been dealing with a hormonal disorder and certain foods I prefer organic. Something like a grapefruit I would eat traditionally grown. Strawberries I prefer organic. It's all about preferences of individuals.0
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I have never chosen organic foods because I thought they were nutritionally better. I have chosen certain organic foods because I wanted less exposure to pesticides. I have been dealing with a hormonal disorder and certain foods I prefer organic. Something like a grapefruit I would eat traditionally grown. Strawberries I prefer organic. It's all about preferences of individuals.
^^ THIS ^^
I've read many times by many sources that organic is neither here nor there on foods that have thick skins like citrus, bananas, melons but it's better to go for organic if you can on thin skinned foods like berries and peaches just because thinner skin absorbs more pesticide.0 -
You mean there's no nutitional value in the pesticides and hormones used on non-organic food? Then what's the point?
JK. I, too, am not sure why this surprises people.0 -
Let me use a study our lab did on aflatoxin (a potent liver carcinogen and toxin produce by mold) in peanut butters as an example of what I think of trace contaminants and whether they are a concern.
The legal limit in PB and corn is 20 parts per billion. We tested about 20 different varieties from commercial to "natural" to full blown organic. All had measurable aflatoxin levels and all were below 20 parts per billion.
After the study we had 20 jars of barely touched peanut butter. I ate every damn one of those jars over the next 2 semesters, even the one that had 13 ppb (the highest levels we found).
In the end taste went to: Jif, Reeses, organic and natural PB's with valencia peanuts, and then the rest. Easily the worst tasting to me were the store brand commercial PB's.
There's not really a good way to say "below this level causes no harm" for most toxins, especially those known to initiate and cause cancer (in general not saying all or even most of the pesticides in use today are known carcinogens), but typically much work goes into making sure levels set in foods cause no harm. I know how much work goes into our countries food safety and standards, and quite frankly our country (USA for me) does a great job of making sure our food is safe.0
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