I have headaches...who eats organic fruits/veggies?

I have had headaches for over a year now. I have them usually 3-4 days out of the week. I've been to the doctor and tried a bunch of medicines...anti depressants, muscle relaxers, blood pressure medicines, and more. Nothing has worked. The muscle relaxers worked for a little while, but now my headaches are coming back. I've also seen a neurologist as well who says they sound like cluster or rebound tension headaches.
I asked a few friends today about their headaches and it was mentioned to me that maybe it's the foods I am eating. It was suggested to me that maybe since I eat a lot of fruits and veggies, I should buy organic. Maybe it's the chemicals and pesticides giving me a headache all the time. ( I eat generally healthy most of the time.) Has anyone else had this problem or does eating organic foods make a difference in your health?
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  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    bump
  • Foods trigger my headaches. My triggers are corn and corn products. Look at your food diary the next time you get a headache. I started writing down every single time I got a headache and then I figured out that it was corn. It might be worth a shot.
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    Thanks, that might be worth trying.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Processed foods caused my migraines, any and all of them. Even salad dressings, ketchup, BBQ sauce, etc.

    I started making my own marinades, dressings, sauces, etc

    Some fruits and vegetables I eat conventional and others I eat organic. No more headaches.
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    I'm just wondering if the extra cost of organics are worth it...i was hoping others would help me out.
  • skylark94
    skylark94 Posts: 2,036 Member
    It's always worth a try, but I wouldn't count on it. Trial and error is all you can do.

    I've been struggling with rebound headaches for years. I'm certain that the Excedrin I take is what is causing them, but I have never been able to beat them. Cutting out all or various combinations of ingredients has yielded no results and only led to debilitating pain. For now, I live with the headaches and 2-3 doses of Excedrin every day.

    What did your neurologist day about possible food causes?
  • dward2011
    dward2011 Posts: 416 Member
    I am a long-time sufferer of migraines and headaches. Eventually my doctor and I figured out that my trigger was a hydration issue. At first we thought it was a food trigger so I began keeping a journal/log of everything I ate (and included liquids). Long story short: I HAVE to be properly hydrated every day with water. I drink 8-10 glasses of water on a typical day, and bump that up with activity (ie: I drink much more after running a long distance race).

    Something to consider, but please keep in mind that I did not arbitrarily choose my water intake. I still have an odd day where I do not reach my intake goal... and the headaches/migraines hit me. They are much more manageable now and I only need an over-the-counter remedy.

    Good luck!
  • EccentricDad
    EccentricDad Posts: 875 Member
    Have you tried a Gluten Free and Casein Free diet yet? You could be feeding yourself a food intolerance and not even know it.
  • EccentricDad
    EccentricDad Posts: 875 Member
    I'm just wondering if the extra cost of organics are worth it...i was hoping others would help me out.

    In the long run? Yes, organics are always better than processed. In the short run, you won't feel the difference unless EVERYTHING you eat is organic.
  • doubglass
    doubglass Posts: 314 Member
    It is very unlikely that it is pesticides. Tension or sinus are much more likely. Keep a diary--not just a food diary. Note travel, your general environment. Note, video games and tv use (both can trigger seizures in overly sensitive people. Watch the barometric pressure, weather and wind and note how much sleep you get (a clue to tension). Watch what is blooming outside. Mold, mildew, or simple allergies are more likely. You will encounter them in higher concentrations than pesticides. Much of that stuff breaks down long before food gets to the market and it is all washed pretty well and often.
  • DeeDel32
    DeeDel32 Posts: 542 Member
    A friend of mine suffers from cluster headaches and was told by his MD to avoid nitrates.

    Maybe give that a try?
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    The only foods that have ever given me a headache are foods containing MSG and foods containing suclarose.
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    I wish you luck! It's worth trying for a while to see if it helps. I've been suffering from migraines for over 4 years now and after all that time the only triggers my neuro and I have found are stress and weather. However, personally I notice that if I get off track with my exercise and start eating a lot of processed and/or takeout food I get them more frequently.
  • hatescardio
    hatescardio Posts: 10 Member
    I would also suggest taking a look at the artificial sweeteners if you're using any. Some can have some pretty uncomfortable side effects for different people. Also - if you're taking in less caffeine than normal that can give you headaches. One last suggestion that I just recently found was that headaches can be a sign of dehydration - the article I found suggested drinking a glass of water and give yourself a little time to see if that takes away your headache.

    **you can never go wrong going organic**
  • hatescardio
    hatescardio Posts: 10 Member
    The herbal supplement Feverfew helps with migraines....but you cannot take it as a constant supplement. As with anything, too much is never a good thing.
    Do some research but I do know people that it has helped. This is preventative only - not something you take, like Advil, if you're symptomatic
  • eireannyoung
    eireannyoung Posts: 154 Member
    I have a friend who used to get migraines all the time - her triggers were soy and MSG. It had something to do with how the glutamic acid was processed in those.
  • I suffered with migraines/headaches for years. I have found that proper hydration and magnesium supplementation (250 mg+/day) have been key. 85% of North American women are deficient in magnesium, and it is essential for muscle relaxation. I used to get headaches 3+ times a weak, and they would often progress into migraines. I maybe get headaches once a month now. Normally only when I eat peanuts or dark chocolate while being dehydrated/stressed.
  • 126siany
    126siany Posts: 1,386 Member
    If they are cluster headaches, I wonder if the common migraine triggers also influence them?

    Off the top of my head (migraines in the family):

    -Nitrates. So any cured meats and some cold cuts. Bacon, hot dogs, etc.

    -Citrus

    -Chocolate

    -Caffeine

    -MSG

    -Aged Cheeses

    -Wine

    I know I'm forgetting some.

    Hormones can also play a big role. I've had a few migraines and they have nearly always come on the first day of my cycle. If you mark your headaches on the calendar, you may find that your headaches coincide with a particular point in yours.

    I hope you can figure out a way to prevent your headaches.
  • ThePhoenixRose
    ThePhoenixRose Posts: 1,978 Member
    my brother has had debilitating migraines for as long as i can remember. to the point where he would end up in the hospital usually about once a month vomitting so much and in such pain that all they could do is put him on enough narcotics to knock him out till it passed. NOT FUN!

    roughly a year ago, he went to a diet of only fresh fruits and veggies. beans and legumes as well, so he gets a bit more protein. he's not had a headache since. not one.
  • efarester
    efarester Posts: 135 Member
    I have had migraines for years. I read the book the 1-2-3 Migraine Diet earlier this year. It gave a nice explanation of how triggers work and how food triggers work. Food triggers can take up to 2-3 days to cause an issue. They can also cause an issue one time and not another. This can make finding them super tough. Because of MFP - I could look at a week of headaches - go back 2-3 days from each one and look for common foods. I have found that both chocolate and bananas (Boo) are triggers for me. I haven't found anything else yet food wise. The other big trigger I recently discovered is barometric pressure. It has been raining off and on and our weather has been nutty this summer - so I think that is playing a huge role for me too. Tracking is definitely key. I hope you figure out a few triggers. I know by eliminating chocolate, I dropped my headaches quite a bit. :)
  • pikselinka
    pikselinka Posts: 154 Member
    I've had similar problem. I tracked what I ate and I came to conclusion that RAW onion caused this, so I only eat well cooked onion anymore and have no problems. I really had pains with these migraines, a killer once I had one it lasted for days without break and it wasn't caused by periods. Try looking into which food you ate before you got a headache each time and you might get what's causing them.
  • Bentley2718
    Bentley2718 Posts: 1,689 Member
    I'm just wondering if the extra cost of organics are worth it...i was hoping others would help me out.

    In the long run? Yes, organics are always better than processed. In the short run, you won't feel the difference unless EVERYTHING you eat is organic.

    There are two major errors in this response.
    (1) " Yes, organics are always better than processed." The label organic refers to both the way something is grown, and the way it is processed. There are organically grown foods that are "processed" (e.g. refined sugar). And a conventionally grown apple is still "unprocessed," but covered in pesticides.
    (2) Levels of pesticide residue vary considerably among various fruits and vegetables, and not always in ways you'd think. For example, conventionally grown potatoes have high levels of pesticide residue, but conventionally grown sweet potatoes do not. If you cannot afford to do so (or just can't find everything you like to eat in organic), you do not need to eat 100% organic in order to *considerably* reduce your pesticide consumption. I'd recommend looking up the "dirty dozen" and the "clean 15" as a start for reducing pesticide consumption.
  • iLose2Gain
    iLose2Gain Posts: 138 Member
    It's always worth a try, but I wouldn't count on it. Trial and error is all you can do.

    I've been struggling with rebound headaches for years. I'm certain that the Excedrin I take is what is causing them, but I have never been able to beat them. Cutting out all or various combinations of ingredients has yielded no results and only led to debilitating pain. For now, I live with the headaches and 2-3 doses of Excedrin every day.

    What did your neurologist day about possible food causes?

    ^^I use to do this too until I read that 1.) Excedrin is really hard on your liver. & 2.) Taking over the counter meds longer than a week can cause what you are trying to prevent, in this case, headaches. I too am a migraine/headache sufferer & coming off Excedrin was HARD! My headaches were horrible!! I learned that I must drink water! If I stay hydrated they decreased!! For the time they don't, my doctor prescribe me Fioricet. This pill is great b/c it takes away the pain without the hard side effect like grogginess! I started taking them 3 times a day now I'm down to 3 times a month! I also learn that exercise is my best friend to overcome the onset of headaches. Just don't workout with one, it will get worse!!!
  • A deficiency in magnesium can cause or make you more suseptible (sp) to migraine and cluster headaches. Migraines are usually caused by food and or environmental triggers, but a deficiency makes you more likely to get them. You need to ask your doctor about taking magnesium supplements if you have heart or bp problems, and you have to take calcium as well as magnesium, though at different times. your doctor can advise you on amounts that are safe for you - this is what worked for my sister who had cluster and migraine headaches for years - she did the whole food diary, kept a journal on stress things, seemed like she was always noting something so she could find the triggers - her headaches are pretty much gone now.
  • Nikiki
    Nikiki Posts: 993
    I would also suggest taking a look at the artificial sweeteners if you're using any. Some can have some pretty uncomfortable side effects for different people. Also - if you're taking in less caffeine than normal that can give you headaches. One last suggestion that I just recently found was that headaches can be a sign of dehydration - the article I found suggested drinking a glass of water and give yourself a little time to see if that takes away your headache.

    **you can never go wrong going organic**

    this! I get migraines periodically and stress & allergies are my main triggers now however I used to get them 3-4 days a week and after reading up on artificial sweeteners I completely cut them out and noticed a HUGE difference. I didn't even realize how awfully clumsy I had become from them until I stopped using them. These days I use stevia for the most part, occasionally I'll have things with sucralose (that never gave me headaches but I did notice it was giving my stomach aches and made me bloated) or just have things unsweetened. Thankfully stevia is mainstream now so its pretty cheap and easy to get :)

    organic is good but I believe the effects of the pesticides are more long term than short term, its always good to eat organically as much as you are able to. there have been studies that test which foods have higher amounts of pesticides on them so you can aim to eat less of those, here's one article: http://www.thedailygreen.com/healthy-eating/eat-safe/dirty-dozen-foods#slide-1
    in general fruits & veggies that you eat the skin of or that grow in the ground, or leaf veggies are higher in pesticides and should be bought organic whenever possible, foods with thicker skins (bananas, oranges, coconuts) are lower in pesticides because you peal off the skin that was exposed before eating.

    Side note: salad greens are super easy to grow organic inside, I grew them all winter (then my dogs destroyed my indoor greenhouse so I have to buy another one!) they grow quickly and are very cheap :)
  • anacsitham5
    anacsitham5 Posts: 810 Member
    I agree with everyone else. Monitor what you have eaten when you get the headaches. It may take awhile but you should be able to narrow it down. I found mine were the result of my neck being out of alignment. I go to the chiropractor once or twice a month and I'm doing super now!
  • Have you had your eyes tested recently? Just a thought.
  • iLose2Gain
    iLose2Gain Posts: 138 Member
    I am a long-time sufferer of migraines and headaches. Eventually my doctor and I figured out that my trigger was a hydration issue. At first we thought it was a food trigger so I began keeping a journal/log of everything I ate (and included liquids). Long story short: I HAVE to be properly hydrated every day with water. I drink 8-10 glasses of water on a typical day, and bump that up with activity (ie: I drink much more after running a long distance race).

    Something to consider, but please keep in mind that I did not arbitrarily choose my water intake. I still have an odd day where I do not reach my intake goal... and the headaches/migraines hit me. They are much more manageable now and I only need an over-the-counter remedy.

    Good luck!

    ^^^Yes pls consider water! It is very important! Also try ginger, they help with inflammatory problems such as migraines (which is inflammation of the brain vessels). I use to make a ginger drink 3 times a day, 8oz of hot water, 2 tbsp of grated ginger juice, 1 tbsp of organic, raw honey. Another drink for migraines @ the 1st site of it take 4 oz of hot water (as hot as you can drink fast) & 1 tsp of cayenne pepper. Drink REALLY fast!! Then rest for 15 min! Helped me a lot!!

    In regards to your fruit, you may also want to look at how much you are eating. Too much may cause headaches. Even though it is good for you, everything in moderation.

    Check out this article. http://www.foodandhealing.com/articles/article_headaches.htm

    Taking care of yourself is a journey. We all learned from trial & error!

    Hope this helps! :smile:
  • EccentricDad
    EccentricDad Posts: 875 Member
    I'm just wondering if the extra cost of organics are worth it...i was hoping others would help me out.

    In the long run? Yes, organics are always better than processed. In the short run, you won't feel the difference unless EVERYTHING you eat is organic.

    There are two major errors in this response.
    (1) " Yes, organics are always better than processed." The label organic refers to both the way something is grown, and the way it is processed. There are organically grown foods that are "processed" (e.g. refined sugar). And a conventionally grown apple is still "unprocessed," but covered in pesticides.
    (2) Levels of pesticide residue vary considerably among various fruits and vegetables, and not always in ways you'd think. For example, conventionally grown potatoes have high levels of pesticide residue, but conventionally grown sweet potatoes do not. If you cannot afford to do so (or just can't find everything you like to eat in organic), you do not need to eat 100% organic in order to *considerably* reduce your pesticide consumption. I'd recommend looking up the "dirty dozen" and the "clean 15" as a start for reducing pesticide consumption.

    All I was referring to was her migraine symptoms. Her body would have to repair whatever damage was done before she wowould get relief and if she eats some organic but mostly dirty and processed foods then she isn't going to get the relief she seeks sshort term. Also, organic is an unregulated term; so I can make a product that is handled organicly in my hands but the ssuppliers might not be as clean as I am and their organic flour might have pesticides on it. Sadly, we put too much faith in big brother to save us from the bad guys and the bad guys only have to pay fines when caught.
  • TheNewReen
    TheNewReen Posts: 27 Member
    I've had migraines for as long as I can remember. Before I started eating organic & cutting out most of my processed foods, I was getting migraines at LEAST twice a week. Ever since I switched to organic and cut out my trigger foods (Caffeine, too much of either Yellow 5 and Red 40 food dyes, artificial sweeteners such as aspartame are 3 of my main triggers. Certain non organic meats and veggies are as well but it depends on where its from etc.) It took me a year of journaling my food and health to figure some of these out. Anything is worth a try! If it doesn't work, at least you're eating healthier. And you can always try other things. :)