Does a granola bar count as a "bread"?

mamamc03
mamamc03 Posts: 1,067 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
Just wondering....
I have a Kashi Honey Almond Flax bar that is eyeing me. I am seeing what limiting my bread intake will do for me. Any thoughts? *Puts up shield and hides behind for the potential storm a'brewing*

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  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    My thought is that your 89lb weight loss would suggest that you don't need to start arbitrarily eliminating food items. Stick to your plan, it's obviously working.
  • senyosmom
    senyosmom Posts: 613 Member
    My thought is that your 89lb weight loss would suggest that you don't need to start arbitrarily eliminating food items. Stick to your plan, it's obviously working.
    ^ what he siad!
  • yannuzzi
    yannuzzi Posts: 35
    I agree with other two and if you're asking if it's a CARB like bread....YES IT IS!!! :tongue:
  • mamamc03
    mamamc03 Posts: 1,067 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.
  • Ruthe8
    Ruthe8 Posts: 423 Member
    I think it would depend on what you are actually trying to limit. Is a granola bar bread? No, of course not. Is it carbs? Yes. Is it wheat/gluten? I would think not. So think about WHY you're limiting bread and you should have your answer.
  • mamamc03
    mamamc03 Posts: 1,067 Member
    I agree with other two and if you're asking if it's a CARB like bread....YES IT IS!!! :tongue:

    THIS is direction I was going. Thanks.
  • 2BhappyBhealthy
    2BhappyBhealthy Posts: 181 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.

    Well then try eating less of them. More protein. Shake up your workout routine. Change it up!
  • MelodyAnn323
    MelodyAnn323 Posts: 38 Member
    Most granola bars have added sugars and are probably a worse option than bread in my opinion. But! They are so convenient and can be satisfying, so maybe try a protein bar instead for that sweet taste, portability, and a huge hit of protein to keep you full. My favorites are Think Thin and Detour Lower Sugar. Some protein bars have sugar- I would steer clear of those if you're like me and have a hard time eating a "moderate" amount of sugar or refined carbohydrates. Best of luck and congrats on your progress so far!
  • mamamc03
    mamamc03 Posts: 1,067 Member
    I think it would depend on what you are actually trying to limit. Is a granola bar bread? No, of course not. Is it carbs? Yes. Is it wheat/gluten? I would think not. So think about WHY you're limiting bread and you should have your answer.

    I think I am trying to limit my obsession with wrapping ALL food with bread. bread, tortilla, pita, biscuit...it's all just a vehicle for the good stuff (i.e. protein & veggies). I love me some meat & veggies...but I LOVE bread around them. Sounds dirty...but it's that way for me. If I fix tuna fish, it HAS to be on bread. If I make fajita chicken & veggies...it MUST be on a tortilla. Sausage - pita or biscuit. I am trying to restructure my thinking and dependence on bread as a necessity in food pairings.
  • shadoewz
    shadoewz Posts: 46
    I wouldn't count a granola bar as 'bread'....first off, since its kashi, it has to have something better than ground up bleached processed wheat in it, correct? I'm also quite sure they don't put yeast in them either. Sure, it has grains in it, but oatmeal is a grain and it's not bread.

    Eat the granola bar, or you could mail it to me and I'll eat it for you......yeah...that ;)

    :D
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.

    Your losses are going to slow as you lose, no matter what you do. I would look at lowering calorie intake before eliminating food groups because you weigh less and are burning less because of it.

    To answer your question, though, "bread" is a euphamism (sp?) for "grains," and granola is a grain.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.

    Your progress slowing has nothing to do with the inclusion of bread in your diet, otherwise it would have been slowed from the beginning if we were to use this logic.

    If you want to reduce calories further and you choose to do this by removing bread, that's your decision, but the additional progress that it may cause is due to the reduced calorie intake and not from the fact that bread is no longer among your food items.

    It's an important point to clarify since people tend to demonize a particular food item with the irrational fear that individual food items can make you fat or inhibit fat loss.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I would not count it as bread. It is made from grains like bread, but the grains are whole, not ground into flour as they are in bread.
  • sarahrbraun
    sarahrbraun Posts: 2,261 Member
    I agree with other two and if you're asking if it's a CARB like bread....YES IT IS!!! :tongue:

    THIS is direction I was going. Thanks.

    it IS a carb, but how much of it is fiber? I try not to get more than 10-12 net carbs from something like a granola bar, tortilla, etc. I just had a PB sandwich on a low carb/high fiber tortilla--there was only 12 net carbs and 14g of fiber in it! So it really isn't as bad as say a PBJ on white bread....
  • Tkichler
    Tkichler Posts: 26 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.

    That could be why you are slowing down. I know if I add in a few too many carbs, I either gain or slow waaaaaay down. May want to cut those back and see if that helps speed things up. Naught little bread products. lol
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    Yeah, it falls into the bread category.
  • mamamc03
    mamamc03 Posts: 1,067 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.

    Your progress slowing has nothing to do with the inclusion of bread in your diet, otherwise it would have been slowed from the beginning if we were to use this logic.

    If you want to reduce calories further and you choose to do this by removing bread, that's your decision, but the additional progress that it may cause is due to the reduced calorie intake and not from the fact that bread is no longer among your food items.

    It's an important point to clarify since people tend to demonize a particular food item with the irrational fear that individual food items can make you fat or inhibit fat loss.

    You are quite knowledgable, or good @ bs'ing :wink: But I think it's the first one. I know it's everything in moderation....with these types of products, I don't think I am keeping within moderation. So I am demonizing my self-control moreso than the bread itself.
  • mamamc03
    mamamc03 Posts: 1,067 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.

    That could be why you are slowing down. I know if I add in a few too many carbs, I either gain or slow waaaaaay down. May want to cut those back and see if that helps speed things up. Naught little bread products. lol

    Very useful!! Thank you!! I have watched my sodium, but I have not really watched my carbs.
  • tappleton17
    tappleton17 Posts: 29 Member
    eat it! its good far you and has flax seed too
  • firedaemon
    firedaemon Posts: 1 Member
    Will it push you over your allowed number of calories a day? If yes then don't eat it.
    It's about moderation with all products, whether that's bread or something else.
    The big thing about carbs is that because they convert to large amounts of sugars, thus calories, you can't eat much of them while staying within moderation.

    So cutting down on the carbs is a good idea because then you can eat more of other stuff.
  • TattedXMomXStace
    TattedXMomXStace Posts: 79
    flax seed is good for the body and Kashi is a great brand of fiber enchriched foods. . . have it! dont limit yourself. . plus i didnt think granola bars/ flax bars were bread. . .
  • youcandooeet
    youcandooeet Posts: 104 Member
    My cousin did a physician assisted diet, and she had her eating 100 net carbs or less per day. That's not as extreme as some versions of the same thing, and it worked very well for her. She only had 50 pounds to lose total, and lost it in about six months.
  • Ruthe8
    Ruthe8 Posts: 423 Member
    The big thing about carbs is that because they convert to large amounts of sugars, thus calories, you can't eat much of them while staying within moderation.
    They have 4 calories per gram, just like protein.
  • ms_leanne
    ms_leanne Posts: 523 Member
    I haven't cut out bread but I have reduced it considerably which has helped. I've looked at other protein sources other than meat and reduced my other carb intake such as pasta and rice and if I must try to stick to brown/wholewheat.

    A few days without bread and I didn't miss it so much and provided I reduce the amount I eat of it i.e. don't eat it every day I'm fine and I don't crave it.

    Wheat has become very addictive and once you get into eating it every day you crave it more and more. I'm not saying wheat is bad but like all carbs including sugar it helps having it "in moderation" rather than every day.
  • ciobair
    ciobair Posts: 69
    I think I am trying to limit my obsession with wrapping ALL food with bread. bread, tortilla, pita, biscuit...it's all just a vehicle for the good stuff (i.e. protein & veggies). I love me some meat & veggies...but I LOVE bread around them. Sounds dirty...but it's that way for me. If I fix tuna fish, it HAS to be on bread. If I make fajita chicken & veggies...it MUST be on a tortilla. Sausage - pita or biscuit. I am trying to restructure my thinking and dependence on bread as a necessity in food pairings.

    Amen sister, that's exactly how I feel and I have the same struggles with it.

    Let me know if you find the answer !
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.

    Your progress slowing has nothing to do with the inclusion of bread in your diet, otherwise it would have been slowed from the beginning if we were to use this logic.

    If you want to reduce calories further and you choose to do this by removing bread, that's your decision, but the additional progress that it may cause is due to the reduced calorie intake and not from the fact that bread is no longer among your food items.

    It's an important point to clarify since people tend to demonize a particular food item with the irrational fear that individual food items can make you fat or inhibit fat loss.

    You are quite knowledgable, or good @ bs'ing :wink: But I think it's the first one. I know it's everything in moderation....with these types of products, I don't think I am keeping within moderation. So I am demonizing my self-control moreso than the bread itself.

    Sounds like you're on the right track (obviously). There are lots of lower-carb bread/grain options out there too. I haven't cut out bread entirely but I eat stuff like whole wheat wraps or 35 calorie wheat bread. I also try to PILE on the meats and such onto the bread to get the most efficient delivery possible (1 sandwich instead of 2). Therefore, I get to have everything on "bread" but it dents my daily caloric intake much less.
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
    You're doing great. Keep doing it.

    A granola bar has more sugar in it than bread but may (may) be less processed than white bread (it it's oat based).
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    You're doing great. Keep doing it.

    A granola bar has more sugar in it than bread but may (may) be less processed than white bread (it it's oat based).

    The Kashi honey almond flax bars are much lower in sugar than most other granola bars. And they are definitely less processed than breads made from any type of flour.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    @ Sidesteel
    You have a very good point. ....BUT my progress has SLOWED down big time...been hovering around 272-275 for 3 weeks. No me gusta!! I am still learning all the time. BTW...I eat a LOT of bread products.

    Your progress slowing has nothing to do with the inclusion of bread in your diet, otherwise it would have been slowed from the beginning if we were to use this logic.

    If you want to reduce calories further and you choose to do this by removing bread, that's your decision, but the additional progress that it may cause is due to the reduced calorie intake and not from the fact that bread is no longer among your food items.

    It's an important point to clarify since people tend to demonize a particular food item with the irrational fear that individual food items can make you fat or inhibit fat loss.

    You are quite knowledgable, or good @ bs'ing :wink: But I think it's the first one. I know it's everything in moderation....with these types of products, I don't think I am keeping within moderation. So I am demonizing my self-control moreso than the bread itself.

    It's the former. If you are overeating anything that takes you over your calorie goal, that will slow weight loss. As you have lost a lot of weight (congralutations by the way) you may need to reassess your calorie requirements. As we lose weight, out BMR decreases naturally, which in turn decreases our TDEE, which in turn decreases our deficit which in turn slows our weight loss.

    Are you on the same calorie target you were on when you started?

    ETA: I just checked your diary - your calorie intake looks fine but its very variable (which is fine also) but its hard to tell what your average calorie actually are. I would suggest you analysing the last couple of months to see what your average intake for the week is ans see how you are doing in that respect.

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