Completely and utterly gutted

Hello everyone,

I'm writing this in the hope that getting it out will stop me obsessing over it as I have reached the point now where I am ready to throw in the towel.

I have just started a new "get healthy and slim" regime. In the last 2 weeks I have eaten healthily every single day except 1 day last week when I went out for my brother's 21st. I have gone from drinking around a bottle of wine every single night, to not drinking at all through the week, and then having 1 bottle of wine over a Saturday and Sunday. I have calorie counted every day and am taking in just over 1200 calories a day (I haven't been counting cups of tea or the flavoured fizzy water that I drink in the evenings but I drink maybe 2-3 cups of tea a day with skimmed milk, and 1-2 glasses of the water which I know adds up to well under 100 cals).

I've been doing the 30 day shred DVD, I must admit its not been every day, but at least every other day.

After 1 week, I had lost 3lb and at least 0.5" off every body measurement. I was thrilled! (from 10st 1lb to 9st 12lb)
Yesterday was the end of week 2. I have put on 6lb!!!!!!! so am now 10st 4lb, and have lost nothing on any body measurements.

Gutted is an understatement. I didn't expect to lose as much as the first week, but seriously...6lb heavier??? I really thought that kicking the alcohol would do plenty in itself, but it seems that I am better off when I do drink cos at least then my weight is stable. I know that is a real "toys out of the pram" comment, but I am feeling so horrible about myself now. What am I doing wrong?

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  • jasonheyd
    jasonheyd Posts: 524 Member
    With a radical change like you've made, I'd expect some ups and down right out of the gate... Water retention & muscle weight will all factor in, and the first few weeks of any sort of diet / lifestyle change can make for some bigger than expected gains & losses.

    Beyond that, short and long term, you're going to be up and down week to week. It's normal, honest. :)

    Above all, most of the changes you're making have to be ones that you can live with. Making healthier eating choices, balancing your diet, gradually increasing your fitness routines in a way that they're part of your day-to-day life will all pay off.

    Everyone has their own opinion on this one, but I generally hit the scales more than once a week and I only "record progress" if I'm down a bit. Gives me a constantly moving target, but it also gets me used to the variations that I see in between.

    If you see an upswing, be aware of it, and carry on making good choices. It'll happen.
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    If you are being accurate about your calorie counting (cups of tea etc not withstanding) then you have not gained 6 lb of fat.

    If you are following MFP as designed, then you are presumably eating at a calorie deficit of 500 (to lose 1 lb a week) or up to 1,000 (to lose 2 lb a week). To gain fat, you would have to not only eat those extra calories to eliminate your calorie deficit, but you'd have to eat an additional approximately 3,500 calories per lb of fat. You haven't done that.

    Weight loss is not linear. Really. It goes up and down all the time, even for people who are maintaining. It fluctuates constantly due mostly to the amount of water in your body at any one time. There are lots of things that can make you retain water, including an increase in sodium intake, an increase in carbs, a new exercise regime, or an increase in exercise intensity and hormonal fluctuations. Women often gain pounds right before their period, so that might be an issue. If your muscles are sore, then that's an indication that they are retaining water as they repair themselves - completely normal. If you track your sodium and notice a recent increase in that - that could explain the fluctuation too. Another thing to be aware of is that you will weigh differently at different times of the day, so make sure you are consistent with the timing, scales, and what you are wearing.

    I've weighed every day since January, and although I've lost 43 lbs in that time, the number on the scale has gone up and down all the time. It probably goes up about 3 days a week on average. What matters though is that the overall trend is downwards.

    I know it's frustrating, and to see that sudden gain for the first time must have been a shock. Honestly though, you can't let it get you down, because it will happen sometimes. Weight loss is not easy, and it takes time. Looking at your profile, it doesn't look like you have much to lose (unless you're aiming for a mini goal). When you are close to a healthy weight, it takes even longer, so it can be frustrating. Just keep doing what you're doing, and you will see results. You've made some really good changes to your lifestyle already, so you should be really proud of that. If the scale is getting you down that much, it might be worth stepping away from it and only weighing yourself every couple of weeks. You can use measurements and photos to see progress in other ways. 0.5" off every measurement is a massive achievement in a week! The scale is a useful tool to measure progress, but it doesn't show the whole picture, so try not to get so emotionally attached to that number.
  • Thank you. Do you really think that 6lb increase is an OK gain? That's nearly half a stone in 1 week! I keep thinking my scales must have broken - lol (wishful thinking!)

    I think that all the changes are things I can stick to. I've been trying and failing miserably to kick the wine for about 6 years (only managing when I was pregnant and breastfeeding, but soon got back into the habit afterwards). For some reason i've found it so easy this time. I am finding the exercise hard, mainly because I have a 2 year old when makes it very difficult to concentrate. I have tried waiting until the children are in bed in the evening, but I found that by that time I have no motivation at all. Its definitely better to do it in the morning!

    I'm going to be seeing my husband in 5 weeks (it will have been over 4 months since we last saw each other) and I wanted to be all slim and gorgeous! Looks like that wont be happening then.
  • If your muscles are sore, then that's an indication that they are retaining water as they repair themselves - completely normal.

    Thank you for this - my muscles have ached, in fact pretty much my whole body has ached every single day for the last 2 weeks! I've gone from doing almost zero exercise to really pushing myself with level 1 of the 30 day shred and have already gone from wimping out several times throughout the 20 mins, to being able to to the whole lot as instructed without dying (still lots of grunting and groaning and sweating like a good 'un!! lol

    OK. Ok. Perspective time. You are right, I don't have a lot to lose. I have set myself a goal of about 7lb to start off with. When I get to that I will go for another 7lb, but I don't really want to lose more than a stone altogether. Perhaps that is also having an effect. And cycle wise, I am about halfway through so don't think that is necessarily a factor, but I have been feeling really bloated this week, to the point where I have been really uncomfortable at times doing my jumping jacks! lol
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    I think it's an ok gain if it's water and not fat, and based on what you've said, it's not fat. :smile: If you are retaining water, drinking a lot of water will help to get rid of it, but otherwise just keep at it. You can lose weight without doing any exercise at all - just be creating a calorie deficit with your diet. From the sounds of though, being close to your goal weight, you'd benefit from the kinds of body composition changes you get through exercise. Strength training can make a huge difference to the appearance of your body - losing inches and getting visible muscle tone. If you don't have the option of going to the gym or using weights at home, then 30 Day Shred and other exercises using your bodyweight can be a good start. It's not easy fitting it in when you've got other obligations, but find whatever works for you - like doing it in the morning if you can.
  • highfalutin
    highfalutin Posts: 37 Member
    I have had the same thing happen. Down down down and then up then back down again. Don't lose faith. Also I have heard (and experienced) that when you first start working out your muscles retain water to help with mending. I know there is more technical info about that but that was the gist of the information...once your muscles get used to it they stop holding on to as much water.

    I feel you with the wine! I can tell you what I have done though....The pre-measured 5oz bottles of white wine have about 120 or so calories. I take one of those split it in 2 and add no calorie sparkling water. I end up with 2 drinks for the calories of one. On nights when I am hanging out with friends it really has helped cut down on the calorie intake and I still get to drink and enjoy my time normally with them!
  • I think it's an ok gain if it's water and not fat, and based on what you've said, it's not fat. :smile: If you are retaining water, drinking a lot of water will help to get rid of it, but otherwise just keep at it. You can lose weight without doing any exercise at all - just be creating a calorie deficit with your diet. From the sounds of though, being close to your goal weight, you'd benefit from the kinds of body composition changes you get through exercise. Strength training can make a huge difference to the appearance of your body - losing inches and getting visible muscle tone. If you don't have the option of going to the gym or using weights at home, then 30 Day Shred and other exercises using your bodyweight can be a good start. It's not easy fitting it in when you've got other obligations, but find whatever works for you - like doing it in the morning if you can.

    Exercise is definitely a necessity in my case if I want to see a visible difference. Since having my children I am no core strength at all. My posture is awful which makes me look fatter than I actually am as I slouch and my tummy sticks out, but standing straight is an effort and holding my tummy in almost impossible for more than a few seconds. Well, it was anyway! I have found now that I can actually hold it in and walk around like that! Go me!
  • I have had the same thing happen. Down down down and then up then back down again. Don't lose faith. Also I have heard (and experienced) that when you first start working out your muscles retain water to help with mending. I know there is more technical info about that but that was the gist of the information...once your muscles get used to it they stop holding on to as much water.

    I feel you with the wine! I can tell you what I have done though....The pre-measured 5oz bottles of white wine have about 120 or so calories. I take one of those split it in 2 and add no calorie sparkling water. I end up with 2 drinks for the calories of one. On nights when I am hanging out with friends it really has helped cut down on the calorie intake and I still get to drink and enjoy my time normally with them!

    Thank you for confirming the muscle info - I think perhaps that might be what is going on. I don't drink that much during the day to be honest, its something that i've constantly been told off for as I was growing up! I need to get into the habit of drinking more water I think. Thanks for the tip with the wine as well, but i'm a red drinker! (can't drink white since getting very, very drunk on it when I was 16! lol)
  • mustgetmuscles1
    mustgetmuscles1 Posts: 3,346 Member
    Here is a little tough love.

    Two weeks is not enough time to make any decision on how your program is doing. Expecting amazing results in a really short time is not realistic. You have made some MAJOR changes to your lifestyle and your body is going to need time to adjust. It also sounds like you dont have that much to lose but have put yourself in a very large deficit. This will only add to the shock on your body and may not provide the nutrients and energy needs your body requires. There is a reason -1lbs per week is recommended. Why so many people choose to ignore that baffles me. Personally I can fluctuate 5 pounds in one day so 6 lbs in a week is not that bad, especially after what you forced your body to adapt to.

    My advice is to adjust your calories for a 1 pound per week deficit and then give it 3 months to decide if there needs to be any changes made. Fix your expectations and this will work out for you. Expect unrealistic results and you will only frustrate yourself.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,331 Member
    Thank you. Do you really think that 6lb increase is an OK gain? That's nearly half a stone in 1 week! I keep thinking my scales must have broken - lol (wishful thinking!)

    I think that all the changes are things I can stick to. I've been trying and failing miserably to kick the wine for about 6 years (only managing when I was pregnant and breastfeeding, but soon got back into the habit afterwards). For some reason i've found it so easy this time. I am finding the exercise hard, mainly because I have a 2 year old when makes it very difficult to concentrate. I have tried waiting until the children are in bed in the evening, but I found that by that time I have no motivation at all. Its definitely better to do it in the morning!

    I'm going to be seeing my husband in 5 weeks (it will have been over 4 months since we last saw each other) and I wanted to be all slim and gorgeous! Looks like that wont be happening then.

    I can put on six pound overnight simply from water retention if I eat substantially more sodium than I usually do, and do a really intense workout. There is nothing unusual about it. As stated earlier, you would have had to eat a huge amount of calories to put on six pounds of actual fat. Keep at it, and drink a lot of water.
  • I'm not trying to lose more than 1 lb a week. When I started I had 7 weeks till I see hubby, and thought that at a rate of 1lb a week, that would be perfect, i'd have lost half a stone when he comes home for his R&R. I was pretty gobsmacked when I lost 3 last week. But the I was also pretty gobsmacked when I weighed this week and was heavier than when I started!

    Will definitely keep going, and am going to up my water intake as I don't think I am drinking enough (probably about 2 pints a day at the mo).

    I'm not sure how to adjust my calories. I don't feel hungry. In fact I sometimes struggle to meet my 1200 if i've had a particularly healthy day! Might have to start eating biscuits in the evening, (but surely that is bad cos of the fat in them?) Blimey this is all so confusing! lol
  • mustgetmuscles1
    mustgetmuscles1 Posts: 3,346 Member
    I'm not trying to lose more than 1 lb a week. When I started I had 7 weeks till I see hubby, and thought that at a rate of 1lb a week, that would be perfect, i'd have lost half a stone when he comes home for his R&R. I was pretty gobsmacked when I lost 3 last week. But the I was also pretty gobsmacked when I weighed this week and was heavier than when I started!

    Will definitely keep going, and am going to up my water intake as I don't think I am drinking enough (probably about 2 pints a day at the mo).

    I'm not sure how to adjust my calories. I don't feel hungry. In fact I sometimes struggle to meet my 1200 if i've had a particularly healthy day! Might have to start eating biscuits in the evening, (but surely that is bad cos of the fat in them?) Blimey this is all so confusing! lol

    Oh sorry then. When I see the 1200 calories/day I thought an average woman would need to lower her calories by over 500 per day to get that low.
  • Tank_Girl
    Tank_Girl Posts: 372 Member
    I'm not trying to lose more than 1 lb a week. When I started I had 7 weeks till I see hubby, and thought that at a rate of 1lb a week, that would be perfect, i'd have lost half a stone when he comes home for his R&R. I was pretty gobsmacked when I lost 3 last week. But the I was also pretty gobsmacked when I weighed this week and was heavier than when I started!

    Will definitely keep going, and am going to up my water intake as I don't think I am drinking enough (probably about 2 pints a day at the mo).

    I'm not sure how to adjust my calories. I don't feel hungry. In fact I sometimes struggle to meet my 1200 if i've had a particularly healthy day! Might have to start eating biscuits in the evening, (but surely that is bad cos of the fat in them?) Blimey this is all so confusing! lol
    Try adding a banana to your diet or peanutbutter on a slice of toast... Helps me to increase my calories when im struggling
  • Sorry mustgetmuscle, I should have been clearer. I've not been trying to eat 1200 calories, that's just what my calories add up to. I've naturally cut out over 500 calories a day by cutting out the bottle of wine each night, so i'm just not a big eater, and we generally do eat healthy, home cooked meals (don't get me wrong, we do eat naughty foods sometimes, but just not that often. Even a curry for us tends to be home cooked from scratch rather than a takeaway). I'm not a big cake or chocolate eater and don't have much of a sweet tooth. I do like cheese and I have reduced this, but more down to fat content than calories, and I rarely eat crisps. Actually, I don't really snack that much - i've recently subscribed to Graze Box so that I do have healthy snacks during the day, to try and encourage more regular eating ( I read that eating smaller amounts more often helps to increase metabolism).

    Thanks for the tip deadboysdon'tlie - I love peanut butter, so that can be my evening treat if I need to up calories! Thank you (actually, mashed banana and peanut butter on toast is ultimate yumminess!)