Down syndrome boy banned from AA flight
BeingAwesome247
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http://perezitos.com/2012-09-05-teen-down-syndrome-banned-flight-american-airlines?relate=
wtf is this world coming to...
wtf is this world coming to...
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A decision was made at that moment. These types of decisions are made everyday. I assume you disagree with this one, but I hardy think it is a 'sky is falling' moment.0
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Doesn't make it right and whatever happened to a little humanity and compassion??0
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I hate when I see people with disabilities being mistreated, there is nothing worse, but I also know how unpredictable they can be at times. If he was agitated and a flight risk as they determined, I think they did nothing wrong in this situation.0
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I would like to know what classifies as "agitated". But if he was truly out of control, there's no reason why they should've allowed him on the flight. He posed a flight risk. That's extremely dangerous to put someone like that (agitated -- not with Down's) up in the air. What if he had broken into the pilots cabin? What if he had injured someone around him?
Just because you have a disability, that's not a license for poor behavior in public.0 -
I would like to know what classifies as "agitated". But if he was truly out of control, there's no reason why they should've allowed him on the flight. He posed a flight risk. That's extremely dangerous to put someone like that (agitated -- not with Down's) up in the air. What if he had broken into the pilots cabin? What if he had injured someone around him?
Just because you have a disability, that's not a license for poor behavior in public.
^^^I feel the same way.0 -
stories like this piss me off! I dont think this kid was doing anything dangerous to the flight and putting lives at risk. I have an autistic brother who is sometimes loud and when he gets frustrated he yells and carries on but is no risk to anyones safety. People need to chill out and have some damn compassion.0
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Per the video... he was chewing on his hat... I don't think he was a risk at all. The mom on the other hand was clearly going bat **** crazy and more agitated than their son.
In this case alone, it does look sh*tty for the airline. Like they didn't want them in first class.0 -
If they're not giving a boy with Downs a hard time, they're doling it out to disabled veterans and their dogs... :grumble:
http://now.msn.com/disabled-veteran-says-united-airlines-kicked-dog-and-asked-if-he-was-retarded0 -
Per the video... he was chewing on his hat... I don't think he was a risk at all. The mom on the other hand was clearly going bat **** crazy and more agitated than their son.
In this case alone, it does look sh*tty for the airline. Like they didn't want them in first class.
Is he actually on the plane in the Video? I can't see it for some reason. If not, there is no way for us to say he was or was not a flight risk.0 -
I would like to know what classifies as "agitated". But if he was truly out of control, there's no reason why they should've allowed him on the flight. He posed a flight risk. That's extremely dangerous to put someone like that (agitated -- not with Down's) up in the air. What if he had broken into the pilots cabin? What if he had injured someone around him?
Just because you have a disability, that's not a license for poor behavior in public.
I understand what you mean and I agree that I would like to know how "agitated" he was. But from personal experiance with my brother some people exaggerate how bad a disabled persons behavior can be. I once had Peter with me at the market and he got upset when I wouldnt buy him something, he hollered and dropped tha candy bar on the ground but I calmed him down in less then 5 minutes. Some worker came up to me and told me we had to leave as Peter was disturbing the other customers and asked us not to come back. A lot of people just look at those with disabilities and assume they will do something terrible0 -
I don't see how this is worthy of news coverage. Should be between the family and the airline, and their lawyers if need be.0
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Puhlease. He was not agitated, was an experienced flyer and if he is 'threat' - then the airlines need to reinforce their cockpit doors. The airline also went out of their way to bar him from this flight AND placed him and his parents in the very last row in Coach class of the next flight - and made sure no one was seated around them.
I have a young adult with special needs - I don't know how this mom kept it together. Thankfully, most of the airport security and airline employees I have encountered have treated my daughter with respect, compassion and patience.
My husband was lucky enough to get upgraded to first class and was sat right in front of two screaming kids who alternated kicking the seat and running up and down the aisle. You think they got kicked off?0 -
I don't see how this is worthy of news coverage. Should be between the family and the airline, and their lawyers if need be.
Dude, right? I mean... Kate Middleton's boobs are all over. FOCUS PEOPLE!0 -
My husband was lucky enough to get upgraded to first class and was sat right in front of two screaming kids who alternated kicking the seat and running up and down the aisle. You think they got kicked off?
Don't even get me on my soapbox about kids on flights.0 -
Obviously the video only shows a small portion, however the parents say he's an experienced flyer and in the video, he's calmly sitting in a chair...playing with his hat.
I went to school with two boys with down syndrome and NOT ONCE in TWO YEARS did I ever see them agitated. They were two of the sweetest kids I've ever known and MAJORITY of kids with down syndrome don't have an aggressive bone in their body.
The difference between this flight and ever other was that they booked 1st class tickets....I don't think that's just coincidence
And I'm curious...being that this is a fitness site...would ppl get more upset by someone overweight not being allowed on the flight b/c they didn't purchase a 2nd seat?0 -
Just because you have a disability, that's not a license for poor behavior in public.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but many kids on the spectrum (like my son) can't control their emotions and behavior like most can. He can't regulate himself like others.0 -
You do not have a god given right to fly on an airplane. It is a private enterprise and they can choose who flies and who doesn't. Sorry, but that's how it is.0
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Per the video... he was chewing on his hat... I don't think he was a risk at all. The mom on the other hand was clearly going bat **** crazy and more agitated than their son.
In this case alone, it does look sh*tty for the airline. Like they didn't want them in first class.
Is he actually on the plane in the Video? I can't see it for some reason. If not, there is no way for us to say he was or was not a flight risk.
They never let him on the plane. He wasn't "removed" as a flight risk, so no... the footage is not on the plane.
But of course there's no way anyone would know for sure, she was, in fact, told she's not allowed to video the situation0 -
If they're not giving a boy with Downs a hard time, they're doling it out to disabled veterans and their dogs... :grumble:
http://now.msn.com/disabled-veteran-says-united-airlines-kicked-dog-and-asked-if-he-was-retarded
I heard about this!! It's just sad :frown: and adds to my personal long list of reasons I wont' fly0 -
Wondering, how many people would be okay sitting in the middle seat of a 3 hour flight next to someone that was acting out on their impulses if he/she wasn't your own child or sibling?0
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You do not have a god given right to fly on an airplane. It is a private enterprise and they can choose who flies and who doesn't. Sorry, but that's how it is.
No one is asking for or expecting a 'God given right to fly on an airplane'. How about just a modicum of respect and some compassion?
Is it too much to ask?0 -
You do not have a god given right to fly on an airplane. It is a private enterprise and they can choose who flies and who doesn't. Sorry, but that's how it is.
No one is asking for or expecting a 'God given right to fly on an airplane'. How about just a modicum of respect and some compassion?
Is it too much to ask?
If someone was misbehaving on an airplane, someone who DIDN'T have a special condition, I bet you'd have no issue of them getting kicked off. Just something to think about.0 -
And I'm curious...being that this is a fitness site...would ppl get more upset by someone overweight not being allowed on the flight b/c they didn't purchase a 2nd seat?
Nope. I've sat in a seat with someone else spilling into my seat. I asked the Stewardess to move me. I didn't pay for my seat to be shared with someone else.
Besides, being overweight is, mostly, a choice. Having a mental disability, is not. Apples and oranges.0 -
You do not have a god given right to fly on an airplane. It is a private enterprise and they can choose who flies and who doesn't. Sorry, but that's how it is.
No one is asking for or expecting a 'God given right to fly on an airplane'. How about just a modicum of respect and some compassion?
Is it too much to ask?
If someone was misbehaving on an airplane, someone who DIDN'T have a special condition, I bet you'd have no issue of them getting kicked off. Just something to think about.
That's my point. (two points actually) He wasn't misbehaving and there are plenty who DO misbehave and aren't kicked off.0 -
You do not have a god given right to fly on an airplane. It is a private enterprise and they can choose who flies and who doesn't. Sorry, but that's how it is.
No one is asking for or expecting a 'God given right to fly on an airplane'. How about just a modicum of respect and some compassion?
Is it too much to ask?
If someone was misbehaving on an airplane, someone who DIDN'T have a special condition, I bet you'd have no issue of them getting kicked off. Just something to think about.
You're basically saying that the mentally disabled should be able to control things they can't... I guess I don't even understand your argument? It's why laws and the ADA exists to protect the rights of those that can not control such behaviors.0 -
Just want to point out that this "news" story was reported by Perez Hilton. That's all.0
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stories like this piss me off! I dont think this kid was doing anything dangerous to the flight and putting lives at risk. I have an autistic brother who is sometimes loud and when he gets frustrated he yells and carries on but is no risk to anyones safety. People need to chill out and have some damn compassion.
I would agree, but it's not always easy for the onlooker to have the same level of insight that you have regarding his level of threat or risk. An autistic person doesn't have any particular distinctive appearance that would clue the onlooker to the disability (like Down's Syndrome does).
What looks to you like your harmless autistic brother having a passing tantrum may look to me like a "normal" person screaming and freaking out. That's the kind of thing that makes the flying public very very nervous.0 -
I would like to know what classifies as "agitated". But if he was truly out of control, there's no reason why they should've allowed him on the flight. He posed a flight risk. That's extremely dangerous to put someone like that (agitated -- not with Down's) up in the air. What if he had broken into the pilots cabin? What if he had injured someone around him?
Just because you have a disability, that's not a license for poor behavior in public.
THIS. Without knowing exactly what classified as "agitated" and why the call was made, it's hard to determine if I agree or disagree with the choice or not. If they truly felt he posed a flight risk because he was agitated, then removing him from the flight was the right call. I've first hand witnessed the temper tantrums mentally disabled can throw, and they can very easily become violent and out of control without warning. I worked at a camp where we literally had to lock a fourth grader in the bathroom (not by himself, obviously, with two or three other adults) because he was out of control and that was the only way to contain him until his mother came.
If it was just based on his disability alone, then that is obviously wrong, But if he looked like he could potentially pose a flight risk then yes, it was the right call.0 -
Just because you have a disability, that's not a license for poor behavior in public.
I think disabled people deserve a little more tolerance and I wish people were more educated about people with mental disabilities before they comment.
From Wikipedia, "The average IQ of young adults with Down syndrome is around 50, compared to children without the condition with an IQ of 100"
The video doesn't suggest that there was anything extreme with his behavior and I really don't think the boy with limited cognitive ability was using his disability as a license to make trouble.0 -
You do not have a god given right to fly on an airplane. It is a private enterprise and they can choose who flies and who doesn't. Sorry, but that's how it is.
No one is asking for or expecting a 'God given right to fly on an airplane'. How about just a modicum of respect and some compassion?
Is it too much to ask?
If someone was misbehaving on an airplane, someone who DIDN'T have a special condition, I bet you'd have no issue of them getting kicked off. Just something to think about.
That's my point. (two points actually) He wasn't misbehaving and there are plenty who DO misbehave and aren't kicked off.
Really? Youve REALLY seen someone misbehaving on an airplane that wasn't thrown off? Just the other day I saw someone get kicked off because they were talking rudely to a flight attendant. It isn't discrimination - it's policy.0
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