X-Box is ruining this country

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  • grrrlface
    grrrlface Posts: 1,204 Member
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    I had loads of consoles (pretty much everything since the mega drive, yeah I was kinda brought up to be a gamer... :P) when I was little, my brother and I weren't to play them on a school night (we were allowed to play outside with the other kids, which we did almost every night) but weekends we could use them as much as we wanted... When we weren't out of the house walking or playing some kind of sport/bike riding with my family and my friend's families. We weren't limited to how long we could play them, we just never got enough time to do it! :P

    So I have to agree, it's a parenting thing, they have to make the effort to do more things with their kids instead of just buying them a games console and treating it as a babysitter.
  • disasterman
    disasterman Posts: 746 Member
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    It was the Atari 2600
  • VelociMama
    VelociMama Posts: 3,119 Member
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    I agree that it's mostly a parenting problem, and I admire all of you parents who have the consoles, and have come up with ways of limiting the time spent using them. It seems very simple.

    I suppose the reason I won't OWN those systems it because I am a bit afraid that I would succumb to the temptation to let him play too much, so that I can get stuff done. I'm a single dad and the custodial parent. I work an hour from home. I have only the tiniest sliver of time to get housework done. I don't have cable either btw! Yeah. . I know. . weird. .

    But another thing I've observed, being an gamer myself, is that it can, at times, consume your thoughts. It becomes all you want to do and everything else is a chore in comparison. I don't want my boy grudgingly playing outside because I won't let him play his favorite x-box game. .

    I'm not sure if you saw my earlier comment, but I really think trying to get him involved in some recreational sports program or activity with other kids would be a big help here. It'll help him meet other kids his age who are doing things outdoors and being very active. All 6 of us growing up had video games, and we all played sports. Most of my teammates when I was young also came over the play games at my place or I went to theirs on the days when we didn't have practice or something else to do. I was a runner and tennis player until my senior year of high school. My brothers all played baseball, basketball, and football, and my sister played soccer.
  • Cameron_1969
    Cameron_1969 Posts: 2,857 Member
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    Have you considered getting him into some sports programs? Most of the kids who are involved in youth sports are very active and, while they enjoy video games too, they also enjoy being outdoors and having fun. It's a great way to meet other local kids with similar interests as your son with parents with similar parenting styles (more outdoor engagement and less indoor entertainment).

    Just a thought.

    He's in gymnastics. He's extremely athletic. I'm not so much worried about him, as the difficulty we've had finding other kids who want to be outside like he does.
  • VelociMama
    VelociMama Posts: 3,119 Member
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    Have you considered getting him into some sports programs? Most of the kids who are involved in youth sports are very active and, while they enjoy video games too, they also enjoy being outdoors and having fun. It's a great way to meet other local kids with similar interests as your son with parents with similar parenting styles (more outdoor engagement and less indoor entertainment).

    Just a thought.

    He's in gymnastics. He's extremely athletic. I'm not so much worried about him, as the difficulty we've had finding other kids who want to be outside like he does.

    Are there other kids in his gymnastic program that he could hang out with in his free time?
  • Prahasaurus
    Prahasaurus Posts: 1,381 Member
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    As everyone has said, it's a parenting problem. We have an X-Box and a Wii, and my 10 year old son plays quite often (interestingly, my 11 year old daughter almost never). But he also plays hockey, is on the ice each day, has a non-ice training each day, as well for an hour, plus school gym class. So getting exercise is not an issue. Getting calories in him is the issue... I use the gaming as a reward. He can only play after his homework is complete, and he's done his chores.

    Another issue: many parents are afraid to have their kids go outside and play. I saw this when I moved back to the US for a few years. People are so scared, irrationally so, that they prefer to have their kids inside at all times, even if glued to a TV. Few kids nowadays even know how to amuse themselves with others outside.

    --P
  • johnlatv
    johnlatv Posts: 655 Member
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    if you are looking to dump your XBox, i'll buy it from you.
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
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    If i was a parent, i'd sneak up behind my kid playing Halo.....silently.........patiently closing in on him..... THEN SLAP HIM ACROSS HIS FACE!! *BRRAPPPPP!!!!*
    [/quote

    Am I a totally terrible parent for laughing out loud at this?

    I laughed as well!
    .... if you messed up my kill streak because of this, you'd be next... :indifferent: ... :devil:
  • CyeRyn
    CyeRyn Posts: 389 Member
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    It's definitely not "X-box" it's parent's not limiting their time playing it. My son loves playing his Wii but he only gets 1hr a day and he can earn an extra 15min for certain activities he does (such as cleaning his room, doing homework) to up to an addition hour of time. All things in moderation.. doesn't only apply to food.
  • nbhobbes
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    x box sucks! ps3 is where its at!

    ^^^^^^^^
    Agreed!
  • Cameron_1969
    Cameron_1969 Posts: 2,857 Member
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    I gotta say that maybe the people who are calling this a parenting problem, and not a console/electronics problem, are too young to remember what life was like before computer gaming.
    Me? I remember black and white TV.
    We were so much more active. Bike riding from one kid's house to the next looking for something exciting. Pick-up-football and basketball and kill-the-pill for hours. All day baseball in the summer. Swimming and tennis on the off days.
    I have two teenage sons. They turn on an electronic game before they eat breakfast, and from what I can tell, their friends and other age-mates are no different.
    The games are too addictive. And, I am not so worried about the lack of activity they cause as I am the lack of imagination and socialization that occurs because the kids always have their nose on a screen.
    I do not think I am perfect because i did not have computers in my life, and I don't think people who have grown up with them are necessarily deeply flawed. But I have noticed my kids missing out. I have definitely seen that my older son became very isolated because he could sit with the games and tune out his troubles.

    amen brother. I would disappear into the woods with my friends after school and not show back up until dark. That was good fun.
  • AuddAlise
    AuddAlise Posts: 723 Member
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    Add me to the bad parenting band wagon. The parents are allowing that behavior. Though I will say that I think adults allowing themselves to be sucked in to the exclusion of their families and friends is just as bad.

    We have a PS:3 and a Wii and the kids really only get to play on Saturday after all their chores are done. Plus they would much rather swim, ride bikes, play with their friends, or go to the beach than sit on their duffs and play a video game.
  • Hama900
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    If i was a parent, i'd sneak up behind my kid playing Halo.....silently.........patiently closing in on him..... THEN SLAP HIM ACROSS HIS FACE!! *BRRAPPPPP!!!!*
    [/quote

    Am I a totally terrible parent for laughing out loud at this?

    I laughed as well!

    ok good I dont feel so bad anymore :)

    I just say what parents are scared to say xD
    Good thing im only 21 =p
  • Cameron_1969
    Cameron_1969 Posts: 2,857 Member
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    One more reason I don't want one, is I don't want the daily battle to limit gaming time. . It seems that it would be just one more thing to add to my list of stressors and I REALLY don't need any more of those. .

    (and then there's the real danger that I would get addicted myself!).
  • gypsybree
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    I would agree that its a parenting problem.

    And did you say you fight the urge to let him on the computer while you do Housework?
    Hey are you single?
    :wink:

    Anyway in my neighborhood... I have a different problem... my kid doesn't want to play outside cause the kids are always out there and there's one in particular who is really mean and runs the street... she won't let anyone out there to play unless she's in the middle of it.... even if you're in your own yard minding your own business she'll yell through the street to talk to you.
    She's abusive to my daughter and I've gotten into it with the mother and so she's been told to fck off but ain't to business anyone's got that ain't hers. She's in the third grade.
    So I take my daughter to parks and such but she doesn't play on the street.

    I'd kinda like to have your problem of no one on the street...,
    Grass isn't always greener but you sound like a great parent.


    I would def try a local park or something to that effect---there you will find like minded parents such as yourself who will have similar kids... you'll have social issues to overcome there as well but typically parents might be more proactive to say something.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
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    I gotta say that maybe the people who are calling this a parenting problem, and not a console/electronics problem, are too young to remember what life was like before computer gaming.
    Me? I remember black and white TV.
    We were so much more active. Bike riding from one kid's house to the next looking for something exciting. Pick-up-football and basketball and kill-the-pill for hours. All day baseball in the summer. Swimming and tennis on the off days.
    I have two teenage sons. They turn on an electronic game before they eat breakfast, and from what I can tell, their friends and other age-mates are no different.
    The games are too addictive. And, I am not so worried about the lack of activity they cause as I am the lack of imagination and socialization that occurs because the kids always have their nose on a screen.
    I do not think I am perfect because i did not have computers in my life, and I don't think people who have grown up with them are necessarily deeply flawed. But I have noticed my kids missing out. I have definitely seen that my older son became very isolated because he could sit with the games and tune out his troubles.

    I remember B&W TV. I remember when there was no such thing as cable. I remember when a computer was a huge machine that took up space in the whole room. I also remember getting an Atari for Christmas one year. I played Final Fantasy for several hours each week, but I also played soccer for hours, and basketball, and football. I still found time for hide-n-seek. They are NOT mutually exclusive. One can play outside until its dark, but then comes gaming time.

    Claiming that a video game is "too addictive" to play is an excuse. And let's not pretend that video games *can't* be a social activity. Like I posted above, our family plays Wii Sports as a family. If your kids are "missing out" on something, then provide it for them. Present them with opportunities. Don't make excuses and blame electronics.
  • CentralCaliCycling
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    http://www.damnrofl.com/2204/mom-said-go-play-outside.html

    Saw this thread and thought of a posting I saw on Facebook this morning - it seems appropriate here,
  • Typhanee83
    Typhanee83 Posts: 313 Member
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    I wish the x-box was never invented.
  • gypsybree
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    I agree that it's mostly a parenting problem, and I admire all of you parents who have the consoles, and have come up with ways of limiting the time spent using them. It seems very simple.

    I suppose the reason I won't OWN those systems it because I am a bit afraid that I would succumb to the temptation to let him play too much, so that I can get stuff done. I'm a single dad and the custodial parent. I work an hour from home. I have only the tiniest sliver of time to get housework done. I don't have cable either btw! Yeah. . I know. . weird. .

    But another thing I've observed, being an gamer myself, is that it can, at times, consume your thoughts. It becomes all you want to do and everything else is a chore in comparison. I don't want my boy grudgingly playing outside because I won't let him play his favorite x-box game. .

    I suggest having your son help you with chores. It teaches much more than you can imagine... and if you're OCD/anal about how things are done give him a job that you don't care so much about how its done... like finding stuff in the couch cushions... if he totally botches that job it'll be alright... have him take off the cushions put the stuff away that he finds and then let him vaccum out the bottoms and then show him how to put the cushions back right.
    Totally something you probably wouldn't have had time to get done and if he does it wrong, no harm no foul cause for real who looks in the cushions?
    And he will feel that he contribute something to the household and helped his dad, especially when his dad is all I couldn't have done it without you, you did awesome.


    My kid loves wiping off the table and wasting spray on stuff. Makes me crazy but hey what's she hurting? Nada. Especially since I get empty spray bottles from the dollar store and I can fill them with 98% water.

    Don't want your kid spending life cleaning? Have him work half the time as you.

    And we don't have cable either. We have netflix and a xbox and wii.... and sometimes Im just like shut that **** off!! And two days ago our vision went out on the living room tv and she's not so caring as to get a smaller TV from one of her rooms to hook up.
    She did get bugged when I told her I'd have to wait until like March to buy a new one though... she said a month or two will be fine...
  • VelociMama
    VelociMama Posts: 3,119 Member
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    One more reason I don't want one, is I don't want the daily battle to limit gaming time. . It seems that it would be just one more thing to add to my list of stressors and I REALLY don't need any more of those. .

    (and then there's the real danger that I would get addicted myself!).

    You don't HAVE to buy one or have it in your home if you don't want to. Your house. Your rules. Nothing wrong with just saying, "no" to purchasing one. They are expensive also. We have PC games in our home now (no consoles either).