read a weird thing about skim milk...

I don't know how old you are but have you ever considered what an excessive sugar load will do to your metabolism in the long term?

I'm 41, I can see that my poor dietary choices got me to where I was, and it wasn't just about calories in/out.

You are funny. I am 45 and as you can see, am perfectly fine. I have also drank a lot of milk all my life. My metabolism is great and per my recent DEXA scan I have off the charts good bone density. Any other questions?

Yep what are you doing later....you know after shredding the clueless?

I don't pay any attention to Dr. Oz. However, just to make y'all mad (cuz, I like to), I drink whole milk, always have, always will. I have no problems with it. I'm building muscle mass without a problem, my belly is shrinking, and it fills me up.

Win

Skip meat. Skip dairy. Heal the Earth. Live long and prosper.

I don'tdrink it for the low cals, more so because wholemilk f***s my stomach all to pieces. Always has. But this is interesting....research must be done!

This happens to me too! Anything with cow fat in it does, actually.

I like skim milk. It tastes good. It has a lot of nutrients I otherwise wouldn't get.

Saying that skim milk is fattening because a cup has ~13g of sugar in it is like saying any fruit is fattening because of all of the sugar in it...

And dear lord, sugar is NOT evil. Some people (like myself) require enough to avoid getting to hypoglycemic. Diabetics need it to avoid, you know, DEATH sometimes.

BUT, there is a point to be made. Typically speaking, fats + proteins help most people feel full with less. Think about the difference between eating ice cream and eating an egg.

yeah...turns out it's not FAT that made me fat....it was sugar. i quit milk, except for some heavy cream in my coffee...and it's so wonderful:D

Well I don't know about you but the reason I got fat had everything to do with the fact I could not stop shoveling food into my pie whole. Either that or I have defied the laws of physics...

You are one of my new heroes.

I don'tdrink it for the low cals, more so because wholemilk f***s my stomach all to pieces. Always has. But this is interesting....research must be done!

This happens to me too! Anything with cow fat in it does, actually.

I like skim milk. It tastes good. It has a lot of nutrients I otherwise wouldn't get.

Saying that skim milk is fattening because a cup has ~13g of sugar in it is like saying any fruit is fattening because of all of the sugar in it...

And dear lord, sugar is NOT evil. Some people (like myself) require enough to avoid getting to hypoglycemic. Diabetics need it to avoid, you know, DEATH sometimes.

BUT, there is a point to be made. Typically speaking, fats + proteins help most people feel full with less. Think about the difference between eating ice cream and eating an egg.

Actually not all Diabetics, I don't track sugar whatsoever just concentrate on my carbs, proteins, and fats. Now for me and my diabetes it comes down to the kind of carbs I am eating....

I don'tdrink it for the low cals, more so because wholemilk f***s my stomach all to pieces. Always has. But this is interesting....research must be done!

This happens to me too! Anything with cow fat in it does, actually.

I like skim milk. It tastes good. It has a lot of nutrients I otherwise wouldn't get.

Saying that skim milk is fattening because a cup has ~13g of sugar in it is like saying any fruit is fattening because of all of the sugar in it...

And dear lord, sugar is NOT evil. Some people (like myself) require enough to avoid getting to hypoglycemic. Diabetics need it to avoid, you know, DEATH sometimes.

BUT, there is a point to be made. Typically speaking, fats + proteins help most people feel full with less. Think about the difference between eating ice cream and eating an egg.

Actually not all Diabetics, I don't track sugar whatsoever just concentrate on my carbs, proteins, and fats. Now for me and my diabetes it comes down to the kind of carbs I am eating....

Hence the "sometimes." I have found it's much more common in Type I diabetics, especially when they're younger.

When a diabetic goes into a diabetic coma, regulation is to give 15 g of sugar to try to spike the blood glucose back up to a functioning level. Many diabetics are a normal weight and want to participate in a "normal" life that doesn't revolve around being anal about their foods, and sometimes the insulin dosage is a bit off and they develop beginning hypoglycemia. When you're in that position, what are you going to do? Have some sugar to spike it back up to where you can function again or eat some whole-wheat toast and wait before you start to feel better, potentially missing out on a fun day? When properly managed it doesn't happen, but growing up one of my friends was a type I and she *had* to have some sugar in the morning to get her blood sugar back up to a functioning level. It would also happen during school.

I'm not saying ALL diabetics NEED simple sugars CONSTANTLY. I'm simply saying it isn't evil and has its uses, especially for diabetics.

And while I'm not diabetic, recently some medication has been interfering with my blood sugar. It gets pretty low- I can tell because of how sick I feel when I don't eat after a while (like overnight or during longer labs- I can't eat every 3 hours all the time)- and while I'm 5 hours away from my Dr going to college, I'm going to use sugars such as those from raisins to avoid feeling shaky, sick, weak, and distracted. Nothing wrong with that. I'm perfectly healthy in other areas (besides some stubborn stomach fat that is due to genetics, mostly, and the fact that my Dearest Significant Other and I like to go out on dates frequently).

I'm also perfectly aware that some people don't use sugars responsibly and spike their blood sugar only to have it fall and they end up feeling like ****. I'm also perfectly aware that some people are more genetically prone to this than others. If you don't eat a lot of sugar and it makes you feel better, great! But my point is that it is basically a necessity for several other people.

Nutrition is hardly ever a "one size fits all" thing.

i wondered about this because i've gotten so much flack from atkins lovers over the years for my love of nonfat milk, so at work (starbucks) i compared all our milks. nutritionally speaking nonfat and whole milk were about the same when it came to sugar and nonfat only had 1 more gram of protein, the best value (calories/protein/sugar) was actually 2%. it had more protein, same amount of sugar or maybe 1 more gram (not a huge difference), and lower cals than whole milk and only slightly more than nonfat.

my conclusion was that while i LOVE the texture of nonfat (i'm a weirdo i know), i'll be sticking to 2% so i can get my protein fix. totally worth it.

Any reason to NOT drink skim milk is okay by me, but that's just because I think it's disgusting. :laugh:

However, I'm pretty sure that if you keep watching Dr. Oz for a couple more weeks, that'll be enough time for him to come back with a ton of data on why you should ONLY drink skim. He doesn't actually study the data he throws around -- he just has his minions gather it so he has new crap to spew every time he's on the air.

Hey -- what's that noise?? Does someone have DUCKS in here??