BMR question

CkepiJinx
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So there is a lot of talk about BMR on here and most people say you should never eat under your BMR. If that is the case then why does MFP have my daily calorie goal set for below my BMR. My BMR according to MFP is 1955, my daily calorie suggestion is 1640.
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I think you're getting TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) mixed up with BMR. 1955 is likely your maintenance range, not BMR.0
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Nope I click on tools click on calculate BMR and it says 1955. I am not figuring it out myself this is what MFP's BMR calculator says. And I did not change my calorie suggestion myself or tweak it it is what MFP suggests for me.0
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So there is a lot of talk about BMR on here and most people say you should never eat under your BMR. If that is the case then why does MFP have my daily calorie goal set for below my BMR. My BMR according to MFP is 1955, my daily calorie suggestion is 1640.
Because you selected Lightly Active, so BMR 1955 x 1.35 = 2639 non-exercise maintenance.
You selected 2lbs weight loss weekly, so 2639 - 1000 = 1639 (rounded to 1640).
Now, that BMR value is inflated above the healthy weight range, unless you somehow maintained the same muscle/fat ratio as healthy study participants.
But probably not that inflated, but somewhat.
Also, to keep the deficit at no more than 1000, you notice no where is exercise in that math.
That's why you log your exercise, you get credit and daily goal goes up, you eat extra to still meet goal.
1000 calorie deficit is still there.
Other protection, while you start exercising, MFP calorie burn estimated are likely inflated slightly except for walking level. This adds on some extra on workout days so you are not going below your true BMR nearly as bad.
But follow the MFP method in that case.
Good job selecting Lightly Active instead of Sedentary, most with FitBit's and BodyMedia devices discover that fact.
You'll need to change your weekly goal loss to 1.5 lbs when about 20 lbs away from goal, but fine now.
BTW - if you know or can estimate your bodyfat% to within 5%, you can get much better BMR estimate to see how your daily goal really compares.
http://www.gymgoal.com/dtool_fat.html
And then get better BMR estimate using that stat.
http://www.gymgoal.com/dtool_bmr.html
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So there is a lot of talk about BMR on here and most people say you should never eat under your BMR. If that is the case then why does MFP have my daily calorie goal set for below my BMR. My BMR according to MFP is 1955, my daily calorie suggestion is 1640.
Because you selected Lightly Active, so BMR 1955 x 1.35 = 2639 non-exercise maintenance.
You selected 2lbs weight loss weekly, so 2639 - 1000 = 1639 (rounded to 1640).
Good job selecting Lightly Active instead of Sedentary, most with FitBit's and BodyMedia devices discover that fact.
You'll need to change your weekly goal loss to 1.5 lbs when about 20 lbs away from goal, but fine now.
Ok so how did you know I put lightly active I can't even find where I originally put that in lol. Two I see from your explanation why it is what it is but that basically means that saying " don't eat below your BMR ever" is incorrect information.
Three I am a long way from my goal but will keep in mind changing my weekly loss goals as I get closer. Thanx0 -
BMR, TDEE, bla bla bla... those things are so hard to track its ridiculous.. just track the food you eat and be mindfull of how much exercise you do and then adjust from there if you need to eat less or workout more to lose weight.0
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For me weight loss is a journey and for it to be a healthy permanent journey I feel the need to educate myself, which includes understanding the how's and whys of my body and how it works. So while yes focusing on how much I eat and working in more exercise is important , for me I want a deeper understanding of all the tools I can use to lose and then maintain weight in a healthy manner.0
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BMR, TDEE, bla bla bla... those things are so hard to track its ridiculous.. just track the food you eat and be mindfull of how much exercise you do and then adjust from there if you need to eat less or workout more to lose weight.
And if you under eat for your level of exercise, and your metabolism slows, and your weight loss slows - according to you that means eat less and workout more.
You just made the effect worse bucko with that sage advice.
You might want to search the forums for all the people that have done just that and stalled. It is real and can happen.0 -
BMR, TDEE, bla bla bla... those things are so hard to track its ridiculous.. just track the food you eat and be mindfull of how much exercise you do and then adjust from there if you need to eat less or workout more to lose weight.
And if you under eat for your level of exercise, and your metabolism slows, and your weight loss slows - according to you that means eat less and workout more.
You just made the effect worse bucko with that sage advice.
You might want to search the forums for all the people that have done just that and stalled. It is real and can happen.
k well maybe i forgot to mention its a gradual progression... whether u want to lose weight or gain weight it has to be done in small incriments of caloric surplus or defecit... its impossible to know your true BMR or TDEE because it changes on a daily basis depending on what you eat, how you exercise, how many steps u took, did you walk the dog, etc... people get worried about the things that dont make a difference and over analyzing fitness and wellbeing... do it gradually for steady long results and you dont need to track how many calories you burned doing a set of bench press...
and by the way any time you lose body weight over a short period of time (ex. 1-2lb a week) the metabolism slows down.. its how the body works.0 -
Because you selected Lightly Active, so BMR 1955 x 1.35 = 2639 non-exercise maintenance.
You selected 2lbs weight loss weekly, so 2639 - 1000 = 1639 (rounded to 1640).
Good job selecting Lightly Active instead of Sedentary, most with FitBit's and BodyMedia devices discover that fact.
You'll need to change your weekly goal loss to 1.5 lbs when about 20 lbs away from goal, but fine now.
Ok so how did you know I put lightly active I can't even find where I originally put that in lol. Two I see from your explanation why it is what it is but that basically means that saying " don't eat below your BMR ever" is incorrect information.
Three I am a long way from my goal but will keep in mind changing my weekly loss goals as I get closer. Thanx
It was the only math that worked correctly. Sedentary is 1.25 times BMR. Can't get to 1640 from that with the weight loss goal deficits available - 250, 500, 750, 1000.
You can dip below for a day, like you workout late and can't eat that much extra that night. Be willing to go higher for breakfast to still eat it back before the next workout.
And it's that day to day balance that MFP is counting on when you log your exercise and eat them back. You add a week of calories like the phone apps do, and you'll see the weekly goal is met still.
Now, if you aren't exercising, I'd recommend changing goal to 1lb weekly. You'll still lose more probably, but deep deficits without exercise does burn muscle mass.
If you keep the 2lb, do 3 times a week weight lifting, big muscles, until you can't do the lifts.
That will help maintain the muscle and hopefully not lose it. At least what you are lifting with.0 -
k well maybe i forgot to mention its a gradual progression... whether u want to lose weight or gain weight it has to be done in small incriments of caloric surplus or defecit... its impossible to know your true BMR or TDEE because it changes on a daily basis depending on what you eat, how you exercise, how many steps u took, did you walk the dog, etc... people get worried about the things that dont make a difference and over analyzing fitness and wellbeing... do it gradually for steady long results and you dont need to track how many calories you burned doing a set of bench press...
and by the way any time you lose body weight over a short period of time (ex. 1-2lb a week) the metabolism slows down.. its how the body works.
Very true, and as the studies have shown, you can also cause metabolic slowdown more than just the weight loss by itself would cause.
To great a deficit, you can also burn through more muscle mass loss, and cause it to drop even lower than weight loss would indicate.
All reasons why it's smart to try to get smart about it.
No knowledge needed for how to gain weight, comes far too naturally, but weight loss with the methods attempted many times - knowledge is power to prevent problems.0
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