Vitamins D and B12 deficiencies...

so, yesterday i was "diagnosed" with deficiencies in both vitamins D and B12. on top of that, apparently i have "convalescent mono," or basically still have mononucleosis in my system after months of not being sick. no wonder i've felt fatigued and lightheaded for the past god knows how long. i'm buying supplements today and looking forward to an increase in energy.

question for the 'nut gallery: how many of you have had deficiencies in either/or/both and once you started taking supplements, how long did it take before you started feeling "normal" again?

thanks so much for the support!!! love MFP and YOU!

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  • LavaDoll
    LavaDoll Posts: 595 Member
    oh, this is me all over, as you know.

    i started on the B-12 sublingual tablets on friday, and by sunday i was actually able to get up and do the regular housecleaning chores which, sadly, have been neglected due to fatigue and feeling like oh what the hell for, i just want to sleep.
    i have been more productive in the last week, even doing laundry in the early morning before work, getting up earlier, and doing more in the evenings: prepping the next days lunches, etc., and generally in a much better mood.

    this morning, though, i overslept as i stayed up way too late playing some scrabble action, and normally i would have been in a panic state, noticeably irritated while getting the kids out the door to school on time.
    today, when i got home after dropping them off, i sat in my driveway for a second, amazed.
    i realized that even though i was hardcore pressed for time and in stress mode over it, i just handled it, real cool, and the mood was pleasant for everyone involved.

    not sure if this is all merely psychosomatic, as i read up on the benefits of adding B-12 into your life when you are deficient, but quite frankly, i don't care. it has effected positive change, already.

    also doing D-3 drops in my water a few times a day. have no idea is that is doing anything.
    looking forward to comparative blood labs in a few months.
  • fakeplastictree
    fakeplastictree Posts: 836 Member
    They never helped me feel better. I took them for two months. Adding Flax seed to my morning shake is what helped me.
  • Are you getting enough dairy & meat in your diet? B12 is found primarily in animal products - beef, chicken, etc. Vitamin D is much harder to find in foods, but will not be absorbed into your system unless you take calcium with it. Thats why milk is so grea for Vitamin D deficiencies because it has both calcium and vitamin D (the fortified milk does anyway). Also, eggs have a significant amount of Vitamin D. Another way to get Vitamin D is by just being outside in the sun. You don't have to bake for hours - just 10-15 minutes a day with your arms/face/legs/ exposed should be sufficient for most people.

    What I am trying to convey is that supplements aren't always the best way for your body to absorb the vitamins and minerals. Several studies show that in some cases, only about 50% of the supplement is absorbed/utilized in the system even when taken with food. Vitamins/minerals that come from food sources are bound by particular particles/substances that make it more readily available to the body.
  • Vanyao
    Vanyao Posts: 16 Member
    I had some problems in this area as well, though most of my fatigue came from an iron deficiency. I began taking Vit D tablets that were prescribed by my doctor, but then was able to start with OTC tablets (taking around 2000iu/day). It took me about two weeks to start feeling more energized and more "normal."

    Hope everything works out well for you.
  • silvergurl518
    silvergurl518 Posts: 4,123 Member
    thank you, lava, and thank you, workforit, for your insight. last year, i went pescatarian for about 4 months...not sure if that had anything to do with it. i eat a fair amount of chicken, fish, and a small amount of red meat. i don't drink milk every day--i used to, but not as much anymore. but i have dairy of some form--cheese, yogurt, frozen yogurt, milk, etc. i do get some sun too but i have fair skin so i prefer to cover up with sunblock, on my face at the very least. my doctor recommended that i take supplements--on top of my regular multivitamin--so i am going to do what he advised. i will consider adding flax seed as well, and being more mindful of my diet (i already am EXTREMELY mindful of it). thanks so much!
  • oddyogi
    oddyogi Posts: 1,816 Member
    Eat more red meat and get a daily dose of sunlight without sunscreen. :) I'd say anywhere from 10-20 minutes.
  • jamk1446
    jamk1446 Posts: 5,577 Member
    Are you getting enough dairy & meat in your diet? B12 is found primarily in animal products - beef, chicken, etc. Vitamin D is much harder to find in foods, but will not be absorbed into your system unless you take calcium with it. Thats why milk is so grea for Vitamin D deficiencies because it has both calcium and vitamin D (the fortified milk does anyway). Also, eggs have a significant amount of Vitamin D. Another way to get Vitamin D is by just being outside in the sun. You don't have to bake for hours - just 10-15 minutes a day with your arms/face/legs/ exposed should be sufficient for most people.

    What I am trying to convey is that supplements aren't always the best way for your body to absorb the vitamins and minerals. Several studies show that in some cases, only about 50% of the supplement is absorbed/utilized in the system even when taken with food. Vitamins/minerals that come from food sources are bound by particular particles/substances that make it more readily available to the body.

    While I agree that getting your nutrition from foods is best, some people have trouble absorbing B12 from food sources alone. I'm one of those. I take a sublingual methyl B12. I also take D3 but I felt the B12 had the most immediate impact on my health. I found that I began to feel better within a week of beginning supplementation, my levels were at the very low end of normal.

    Also, the quality, dose, and form of the vitamin or mineral supplement in question all factor into its effectiveness.
  • KayakAngel
    KayakAngel Posts: 397 Member
    I'm a vegetarian, and I started to have some nasty bouts of anxiety and some depression. I still eat eggs and dairy, so I didn't worry too much about B12. But my father-in-law (doctor of internal medicine and, more recently, a psychiatrist) told me the anxiety was likely diet-related. He recommended methyl B12 tablets, and it did make a big difference. He said to stay away from cyano B12. The methyl B12 is a little harder to find, but is absorbs and works better. I haven't had a panic attack in the last 3 months, since I've been taking the B12. That's my experience, for what it's worth.
  • silvergurl518
    silvergurl518 Posts: 4,123 Member
    interesting...re: methyl vs. cyano. i have anxiety as well and it's actually my therapist who advised me to have additional bloodwork done. i take lexapro for the anxiety/OCD but i still had fatigue/lightheadedness, hence the blood tests. doc advised sublingual b12 but he didn't say methyl vs cyano. and he didn't say what kind of D either...
  • live2dream
    live2dream Posts: 614 Member
    Eating more meat or dairy won't help. It will bog you down with saturated fat and use up all your energy for digestion. Best thing I found for me is eating LOTS of fruit and veggies- raw is best. And I take methyl B12 and D supplements. Good luck! :flowerforyou:
  • silvergurl518
    silvergurl518 Posts: 4,123 Member
    Eating more meat or dairy won't help. It will bog you down with saturated fat and use up all your energy for digestion. Best thing I found for me is eating LOTS of fruit and veggies- raw is best. And I take methyl B12 and D supplements. Good luck! :flowerforyou:

    thanks, babe!!!
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    I've been a vegetarian for almost 40 years, and also have a genetic predisposition for developing vitamin B12 deficiency. I have had three episodes of it over the course of that time. I now take a liquid supplement, and have serum levels very high into the normal range. If anything, I have to be careful not to overdo, since these liquid supplements far exceed the RDA recommendation, and I have had blood tests show excessive amounts.

    What constitutes a vitamin D deficiency is a matter of considerable scientific debate. There seems to be a sweet middle range between too much and too little. I suggest researching this a bit.
  • jamk1446
    jamk1446 Posts: 5,577 Member
    interesting...re: methyl vs. cyano. i have anxiety as well and it's actually my therapist who advised me to have additional bloodwork done. i take lexapro for the anxiety/OCD but i still had fatigue/lightheadedness, hence the blood tests. doc advised sublingual b12 but he didn't say methyl vs cyano. and he didn't say what kind of D either...

    Methylcobalamin (B12) and D3 are the forms the body most efficiently utilizes. I would think optimal blood levels of both would help with anxiety and depression. You may also look into niacin for anxiety. I have a family member who uses it with great success. If you have trouble locating any of these vitamins instore, I recommend shopping online. While these aren't generally expensive supplements anyway, you will find better prices online as well as selection.
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    To follow up on my earlier posting in this thread, here's a link to the 'sweet spot' for vitamin D serum levels:

    http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional/
  • If you don't notice a change after a few days of the B12 supplements you should contact your physician and ask about getting a shot of B12. I don't absorb B12 and they haven't figured out why, but the shots are the only thing that helped me. And it is almost immediate. Also, health shops usually sell little bottles of B12 that you squirt in your mouth and let it absorb. That is also a big help.
  • oddyogi
    oddyogi Posts: 1,816 Member
    Eating more meat or dairy won't help. It will bog you down with saturated fat and use up all your energy for digestion. Best thing I found for me is eating LOTS of fruit and veggies- raw is best. And I take methyl B12 and D supplements. Good luck! :flowerforyou:

    Actually, fruits and veggies are harder on the digestive system, especially raw.

    Saturated fat isn't bad for you, etc.

    Rabble rabble rabble, this is all opinionated.
  • gatorginger
    gatorginger Posts: 947 Member
    I was diagnosed with B-12 deficiencies as my body doesn't absorb it and so I get a monthly shot and then I take the vitamin every day. I saw a huge improvement in my energy level and also it helped a great deal with my sensitivity. I am going through menopause and so silly things would upset me but since I started the B-12 I haven't had any more sensitivity like I was having. I was also getting these feelings of feeling nervous inside (not shaking outside but feeling like I was shaking on the inside). The B-12 cleared that up also. If your doctor recommends take them they are wonderful.

    Also B6 is a wonderful thing to take for carpnal tunnel or arthritis it helps a great deal with pain
  • brevislux
    brevislux Posts: 1,093 Member
    I've had both, though not at the same time.
    The change was very quick, I think it took about two weeks to get normal for me, but I guess I absorb them quite well.
  • I have winter blues and there is no way I can get enough sun light. It is too cold. Doctor recommended light therapy. I have been thinking about b12 as a friend needs a shot every six weeks.
  • newhabit
    newhabit Posts: 426 Member
    I had a deficiency in Vitamin D. I started taking more and my deficiency resolved in about 3 months. They had me on a megadose of about 7,000 IU a day. Now my level is doing well about 6 months after the initial problem
  • jodil68
    jodil68 Posts: 36 Member
    I was deficient in vitamin D ( and I had been taking 1000 iu's a day) doctor told me to increase to 3000 a day - I cut back in the summer when I am outside a lot more. When you live in a northern climate it is difficult to get enough D naturally. Once you have been on it a little while you should see a big improvement in your immune system. I used to pick up various plagues that my kids would bring home. Can't remember the last time I have been sick :)
  • MissAnjy
    MissAnjy Posts: 2,480 Member
    I thought for a LONG time that I was having panic attacks, and I couldn't figure out why. Out of nowhere, my body would feel like it was shaking from the inside out. I also found that I was having heart palpitations, etc. For MONTHS now, I've been suffering from severe exhaustion. I finally went to my doctor the other day and they found that I have a B12 deficiency. I'm starting monthly injections as soon as possible. I'm hoping it helps!
  • Elissalove
    Elissalove Posts: 22 Member
    I am severly deficient in both. I take B supplements twice a day and one HUGE dosage of D a week. I started feeling better within a week. Instead of being exhausted all day (even though I woke up I'd never actually feel awake) I'm still tired when I wake up, but getting going is A LOT easier. I also just have more energy in general.
  • gatorginger
    gatorginger Posts: 947 Member
    I thought for a LONG time that I was having panic attacks, and I couldn't figure out why. Out of nowhere, my body would feel like it was shaking from the inside out. I also found that I was having heart palpitations, etc. For MONTHS now, I've been suffering from severe exhaustion. I finally went to my doctor the other day and they found that I have a B12 deficiency. I'm starting monthly injections as soon as possible. I'm hoping it helps!

    Trust me it will