stuck

I have lost 28 pounds - i work out 5-6 times a week for about 35-40 mins. sometimes treadmill- elpict. and zumba.
some days i do treadmill in the AM and zumba at night, just do that 1 day a week. but most its treadmill-

i cant lose anything. the scale hasnt moved in 2 weeks. i am getting so upset. bc i know i am working so hard.
Does anyone have suggestions?
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  • lmarshel
    lmarshel Posts: 674 Member
    You don't really say what you're doing with your diet, only the workouts. If you're still eating at a calorie deficit, you should be fine. Sometimes, your body just doesn't work within your schedule. It's only been 2 weeks. Give it time...you'll get there! :)
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Make sure you are eating enough, and getting enough fat, carbs, and protein (your body needs them all).
  • oatmeal and fruit for breakfast or egg whites.
    lunch. salad with grilled chicken or turkey burgers
    dinner - turkey - chicken- pork chops. lots of veggies/
    i cut out carbs well bread
    i dont eat junk food anymore.
  • Change up your gym routine, maybe add some weights with the cardio, or do all cardio one day, and all weights the next. Also, might try reducing the sodium as much as you can as well as increase liquids. Sometimes you body loves to hang onto those extra lbs. But you will start losing again!
  • NO thoughts here, only sympathy. My scale has not moved in MONTHS. at least 3. it SUCKS. I work out 3-5x a week, eat well at least 90% of the time (we are on the go a lot so sometimes it is hard) and still, nothing. only 10lbs lost in the past 8 months. It is so frustrating! Folks say sometimes you have to change things up, shock your body...I did that. when I had to miss some workouts due to my boys starting football (practice every night messed with my evening workout schedule!), I also altered my food as well. When I can sneak in an extra workout (like tonight, when football is likely to be canceled due to the weather), I try to eat and extra snack as I have also read that if you do not eat enough, you may not lose anything (which seems counter-intuitive, doesn't it???) SO much information out there, I don't know what to do! And nothing I have tried can seem to get me over this hump. GRRRRRRR.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    oatmeal and fruit for breakfast or egg whites.
    lunch. salad with grilled chicken or turkey burgers
    dinner - turkey - chicken- pork chops. lots of veggies/
    i cut out carbs well bread
    i dont eat junk food anymore.

    There's virtually no fat in that. You need some fat. It's also probably pretty low cal, so you may need more calories too. Adding some fats will help with that too.
  • my sod. in take is LOW. i read every label... i drink already at least 70 oz of water a day - more if i take zumba that day.
    i dont know what it can be, i am frustrated.
  • on average i have no more then 33g of fat
  • peuglow
    peuglow Posts: 684 Member
    Open your diary.

    Also, while it is frustrating, it's also only 2 weeks.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    on average i have no more then 33g of fat

    Exactly. Try doubling that.


    Above poster brings up a good point too... 2 weeks isn't a big enough window to really gauge success/failure.
  • to me its unacceptable knowing what i have been doing and 2 months i dropped 25 pounds.. this isnt flying to well with me
  • popzork
    popzork Posts: 78 Member
    Call in the professionals. That's what I did. The calories that MFP and every other application out there is based on averages. It says that based on your age, height, weight and gender you should eat XXX calories.

    I was stuck for MONTHS over the course of 3 years of dieting. (lose some, get stuck, quit, gain it back, rinse and repeat)

    I finally found a place in my area that did RMR testing and got my answer. The average RMR for my age, etc is 1490 per day. Mine measured 1022. That was why NO diet was working for me.

    I upped my exercise to compensate and started losing again.

    The lesson is that we are NOT all average.

    Adding that it took 8 months to lose 27 pounds and I have lost an additional 4 in the last month. So, I DO know the frustration.
  • I have not been at it as long as you, but I was having the same problem...in fact I would put ON 2 or 3 lbs! We did some research on sodium. After making adjustments to our diet and sodium intake, things seem to have started to work again.
  • the good thing i havent gained just not moving well the scale..
    i want to believe i am building muscle. and that weighs more then fat.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    the good thing i havent gained just not moving well the scale..
    i want to believe i am building muscle. and that weighs more then fat.
    Sorry, but you're not... at least not enough or fast enough for it to mask weight loss. Building muscle is MUCH harder and MUCH slower than most people want to believe, and it's even harder and slower when on a deficit.
  • joannathechef
    joannathechef Posts: 484 Member
    I can not see your diary so take this with a pinch of salt - you should be losing if you are eating less calories than you burn.

    So possible causes

    1. you are eating back your work out calories and taking MFP burn rates as a guide - they are about 30% over stating burn rates hence eating 30% more than you really burnt

    2. you are not weighing and measuring everything - you will be amazed at how bad we are a guess what sonething weighs.....
  • peuglow
    peuglow Posts: 684 Member
    Sorry, but you're not... at least not enough or fast enough for it to mask weight loss. Building muscle is MUCH harder and MUCH slower than most people want to believe, and it's even harder and slower when on a deficit.
    This.
    Search the forum for In Place of a Road Map, or message helloitsdan

    Take his advice, fix your diet. Guaranteed you're either overfeeding/underfeeding.
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    Open your diary and you'll get more helpful feedback. Off the cuff I would say swap out 2 days of cardio and replace them with strength training.
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    The average RMR for my age, etc is 1490 per day. Mine measured 1022. That was why NO diet was working for me.

    That's the sad truth of it all. The people who can't lose weight have the same issue. They're not eating a deficit on calories. There are points you can fine-tune like your carb/protein/fat ratios but it all really comes down to calories consumed vs. calories used. It's much easier for women to fall into this trap. You might see your husband eating 2000 calories a day and be tricked into believing that you can eat the same and still lose weight.

    Start with MFP recomendations and work from there. They're just a starting point and a good rule of thumb. Actual calories vary per person.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Start with MFP recomendations and work from there. They're just a starting point and a good rule of thumb. Actual calories vary per person.

    well said.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Are you doing ANY strength training or are you limiting your exercise to cardio only?

    cause you know, cardio is only about 25% of fitness....
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    I have lost 28 pounds - i work out 5-6 times a week for about 35-40 mins. sometimes treadmill- elpict. and zumba.
    some days i do treadmill in the AM and zumba at night, just do that 1 day a week. but most its treadmill-

    i cant lose anything. the scale hasnt moved in 2 weeks. i am getting so upset. bc i know i am working so hard.
    Does anyone have suggestions?

    One thing I've learned is you can not work off the fat. The only thing that makes you lose weight is a true calorie deficit and honest logging of calories. We all sometimes play mental accounting games with calories because it's hard.

    Workout only to develop lean body mass and make your body healthy, strong, and pretty when the weight is gone.

    Calorie deficit to lose fat. Nothing else matters. See quote below on what is the right amount of calories.

    Your body loses weight in chunks, not linear. I have found that you can do everything right and your weight loss seems to plateau but if you are patient and keep exercising and eating at a deficit (however slight) you will lose it, it will suddenly "whoosh". There are so many variables for the scale; water retention, digestion, hormones, allergies, sodium, carbs, water intake, DOMS, inflammation, the list goes on. People mistakenly think they lose or gain weight when they eat more or less because of these fluctuations.

    Losing weight requires tremendous patience. You will not lose it when you want it or where you want it. The body does its thing. Some apparent plateaus can last a month or so. You can not make it happen faster. You must focus on two things; calories and exercise. Nothing else matters. Scales and metrics don't matter. The day in and day out grind of exercise and calories are all that matters. It is not very exciting until things fall into place. You get your victories and you ride one victory to the next.

    The scale is a trend tool. The scale is good but put it away and only check once a week and only use it as a trend tool. It will fluctuate, it does not matter. Take front side and back progress pictures at least once a month. You will see differences that the metrics won't tell you and it's that little bit of NSV that will keep you going until the next victory.

    Some people will say you need to eat more. Some people will say you need to eat less. Only you can decide or check with your doctor. But what would make the most sense? Eating more or eating less, to lose weight? Hmmm..

    Taller people have more room in their calorie budget to go up or down. Shorter people like me have less room and get frustrated with "eat more" because that typically does not work for us. If you are confused about it don't just listen to any of us, do some research and get approval from your doctor, then just do what you need to do and tune the rest of us out.

    It really depends on your RMR. If you are short like I am then your RMR is really just above the 1200 limit so you really don't have much room for a calorie deficit and going up is less likely to work. If you are taller you will have a higher RMR and can go up or down and still be in a deficit so you can lose no matter what. All that matters is a calorie deficit. If you are short it can be hard to have a deficit at 1200 or above so your only option is to check with your doctor. I did and he agreed and had me go down. So I had to tune everyone out around here, as some of us short girls will say, the "eat more" bullies.

    Once I got leaner I had to taper UP my calories. The leaner you get the less of a calorie deficit your body can handle. It needs to be a long slow shallow deficit. For me still under a doctor’s care, this is around 1000-1200 calories because I am so short, petite, and am under 12% body fat where I truly can go into starvation mode if I ate under 1000 calories. I have supporting documentation below. Again, you must seek your doctor’s advice. No one here can tell you how many calories to eat, either up or down.

    Seek advice from your doctor. Myself or anyone else on here can’t tell you how much to eat, or to go up or down. If you have a lot of body fat reserves you would be surprised at how little you can eat (unless you have emotional eating issues or disorders). The leaner you get the less your body has to draw from and then you have to taper up your calories. There is no such thing as starvation mode for woman over 12% body fat or men over 6% body fat. I pretty much proved that for myself by staying strong and building muscle and doing what I did. I'm the leanest, most muscular, and most fit that I have ever been in my life at almost 52 years old. My doctor looked at my blood work throughout my journey and it remained fine even with “taking breaks from eating” for periods of time and eating less. Even now at less than 12% body fat everything is A-OKAY. I am healthy, active, and vibrant, muscular not skinny. I have never had eating disorders nor do I now. If you have eating disorders you should not be on a diet unless you are under a doctor’s care and/or get those issues resolved first. I do not advocate unhealthy eating or promote eating disorders.

    While there is no one size fits all I listed the things that worked for me here --> http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/740340-i-lost-60-lbs-at-age-51-anyone-can-any-workout

    I found the following quotes helpful for sorting through all the myths plastered all over the place
    What is the exact number of calories for you?

    We’ve been trying to figure out an exact NUMBER of calories that everyone should be eating, without recognizing that everyone is slightly different. In truth, the calories aren’t the end game. Your body is. So the EXACT amount of Calories that are right for you is the EXACT amount that will allow you to maintain your ideal bodyweight no matter what some calculator or chart says.

    In other words, an online calculator might tell you that you need to eat 2,500 calories
    per day to maintain your ideal bodyweight. But the only way to know for sure if this is
    the right amount for you is to test it out. If you gain weight or can’t lose weight eating
    that much, then you know you need to eat less to lose weight no matter how many
    calculators and text books say otherwise.

    This doesn’t mean your metabolism is broken, it just means the estimate of your needs
    was just a bit off.

    -John Barban (The Body Centric Calorie Guide from the Venus Index and Adonis Index Manuals)

    The Theory of Fat Availability:
    •There is a set amount of fat that can be released from a fat cell.
    •The more fat you have, the more fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •The less fat you have, the less fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •Towards the end of a transformation, when body fat is extremely low you
    may not have enough fat to handle a large caloric deficit anymore.

    At the extreme low end, when your body fat cannot ‘keep up’ with the energy deficit
    you've imposed on your body, the energy MUST come from SOMEWHERE. This is
    when you are at risk of losing lean body mass during dieting (commonly referred to
    as ‘starvation mode’). This happens at extremely low levels of body fat, under 6% in
    men and 12% in women [Friedl K.E. J Appl Phsiol, 1994].

    -Brad Pilon and John Barban (from The Reverse Taper Diet in The Adonis Index and Venus Index manuals)
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    the good thing i havent gained just not moving well the scale..
    i want to believe i am building muscle. and that weighs more then fat.

    This is a myth. http://www.onemorebite-weightloss.com/muscle-to-fat.html
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    Are you doing ANY strength training or are you limiting your exercise to cardio only?

    cause you know, cardio is only about 25% of fitness....


    Lifting weights is KEY. I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifiting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is!

    If you really want to have the best quality of life when you are older like me start lifting now and keep lifting the rest of your life. Once your bones start to deteriorate there is no getting back what you lost, only halting the process as much as possible.
  • jzammetti
    jzammetti Posts: 1,956 Member
    NO thoughts here, only sympathy. My scale has not moved in MONTHS. at least 3. it SUCKS. I work out 3-5x a week, eat well at least 90% of the time (we are on the go a lot so sometimes it is hard) and still, nothing. only 10lbs lost in the past 8 months. It is so frustrating! Folks say sometimes you have to change things up, shock your body...I did that. when I had to miss some workouts due to my boys starting football (practice every night messed with my evening workout schedule!), I also altered my food as well. When I can sneak in an extra workout (like tonight, when football is likely to be canceled due to the weather), I try to eat and extra snack as I have also read that if you do not eat enough, you may not lose anything (which seems counter-intuitive, doesn't it???) SO much information out there, I don't know what to do! And nothing I have tried can seem to get me over this hump. GRRRRRRR.

    I have been stuck for 4 months just like you - traveling back and forth between 129 - 132 (I am 5'2" and 42 yrs old). So, I recently decided I would just jump in head first and calculate my caloric needs under the TDEE principles. Using that calculation my caloric intake for my goal weight is 1748 - 1940 depending upon my level of activity. I use the lower number since I run 3-4 days per week, but am not even close to athletic yet. (I use the TDEE for my goal weight instead of calculating my current TDEE and deducting 20% so I never have to change my eating habits again. The weight will theoretically come off slower, but that is ok because I do nto want to deal with slackened skin)

    So, last week I upped my calorie goal and I will test it for 10 days (because I typically eat lower carb than I am now and I do not want to gain too much if the higer carb is truly bad for my body type). I will get on the scale on october 10th to see if there is any difference. If I do not gain weight, I will continue on this plan for 30 days and weigh again. I just hope this approach gets me off my plateau. You can add me if you want to see my results...maybe you want to test it out for yourself?
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Are you doing ANY strength training or are you limiting your exercise to cardio only?

    cause you know, cardio is only about 25% of fitness....


    Lifting weights is KEY. I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifiting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is!

    If you really want to have the best quality of life when you are older like me start lifting now and keep lifting the rest of your life. Once your bones start to deteriorate there is no getting back what you lost, only halting the process as much as possible.

    really bugs me when people tell me this like im not already living it.
  • Culley34
    Culley34 Posts: 224
    Try doing something instead of Zumba. Run outside or give it a go with some weightlifting.

    Also, you may want to start recording inches -- it's another way to track progress.
    to me its unacceptable knowing what i have been doing and 2 months i dropped 25 pounds.. this isnt flying to well with me
  • Aquarian
    Aquarian Posts: 1,094 Member
    to me its unacceptable knowing what i have been doing and 2 months i dropped 25 pounds.. this isnt flying to well with me

    I feel for you. Try seeing a doctor and making sure everything is fine. Or, you could get help from a trainer or a dietitian. I feel that your particular situation needs to be professionally evaluated, so you will get some advice that will work for you.
  • I have gone to my dr. Everything is good with what i am eating.. and excersing. he looked over my journal- so carbs- fiber fat and calorie intake are ok and also and for the one who said change workout and dont do zumba run instead. I cant run. not yet anyway- and outside. really i belong to a gym!
    i think i am getting a trainer.. and i maybe i because i am stressed out at work its not helping. I will just go back to working out in the AM at 5a. and again at 9p see what happens in a few days
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I have gone to my dr. Everything is good with what i am eating.. and excersing. he looked over my journal- so carbs- fiber fat and calorie intake are ok and also and for the one who said change workout and dont do zumba run instead. I cant run. not yet anyway- and outside. really i belong to a gym!
    i think i am getting a trainer.. and i maybe i because i am stressed out at work its not helping. I will just go back to working out in the AM at 5a. and again at 9p see what happens in a few days

    is there a specific reason that you dont even want to talk about the weights half of working out?