A free paper about calorie deficit

californiagirl2012
californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
edited December 2024 in Food and Nutrition
From Rusty Moore and John Barban. Good stuff here!

http://caloriedeficit.net/

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  • loveachallenge
    loveachallenge Posts: 62 Member
    From Rusty Moore and John Barban. Good stuff here!

    http://caloriedeficit.net/

    Thanks, very interesting!
  • Thanks Ro, this is a great read. Adding it to my journey library so that I can also help others.
  • SueSlick
    SueSlick Posts: 268 Member
    Bump...will read at home. Thanks Bobbi!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    One typo, starts out at beginning talking about the little effects of 90 min of exercise per WEEK.

    At the end to recap he mentions 90 min of exercise per DAY.

    In between he said 90 min of exercise per day did warrant including that exercise in the daily activity. Well, really, deficit from daily activity burn would always include exercise.

    But at least a nice balanced notion, even the fact of why you may need to eat more at end of diet.

    So even though your requirements have gone down during the loss, and you should indeed be eating less, but it should not be a constant set deficit, but less and less deficit as you weigh less and less.

    Perhaps MFP should stop the 250, 500, 750, 1000 deficit methods which can be used when you shouldn't be using them, and just go for % method.

    And since they are treating exercise as a reward to eat later to maintain the deficit, automatically take the same deficit off the credit calories.

    Or, give the option to treat planned exercise as the goal to work to with deficit off the total, and create a debit if you end up not doing the exercise.

    Not sure what is more encouraging to dieters - reward of more food or punishment of less.
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    One typo, starts out at beginning talking about the little effects of 90 min of exercise per WEEK.

    At the end to recap he mentions 90 min of exercise per DAY.

    In between he said 90 min of exercise per day did warrant including that exercise in the daily activity. Well, really, deficit from daily activity burn would always include exercise.

    But at least a nice balanced notion, even the fact of why you may need to eat more at end of diet.

    So even though your requirements have gone down during the loss, and you should indeed be eating less, but it should not be a constant set deficit, but less and less deficit as you weigh less and less.

    Perhaps MFP should stop the 250, 500, 750, 1000 deficit methods which can be used when you shouldn't be using them, and just go for % method.

    And since they are treating exercise as a reward to eat later to maintain the deficit, automatically take the same deficit off the credit calories.

    Or, give the option to treat planned exercise as the goal to work to with deficit off the total, and create a debit if you end up not doing the exercise.

    Not sure what is more encouraging to dieters - reward of more food or punishment of less.

    Personally I don't like rewards or punishment with foods, AT ALL. From me all rewards are non foods, and definitely NO PUNISHMENT with lack of food. I didn't read into that at all.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    One typo, starts out at beginning talking about the little effects of 90 min of exercise per WEEK.

    At the end to recap he mentions 90 min of exercise per DAY.

    In between he said 90 min of exercise per day did warrant including that exercise in the daily activity. Well, really, deficit from daily activity burn would always include exercise.

    But at least a nice balanced notion, even the fact of why you may need to eat more at end of diet.

    So even though your requirements have gone down during the loss, and you should indeed be eating less, but it should not be a constant set deficit, but less and less deficit as you weigh less and less.

    Perhaps MFP should stop the 250, 500, 750, 1000 deficit methods which can be used when you shouldn't be using them, and just go for % method.

    And since they are treating exercise as a reward to eat later to maintain the deficit, automatically take the same deficit off the credit calories.

    Or, give the option to treat planned exercise as the goal to work to with deficit off the total, and create a debit if you end up not doing the exercise.

    Not sure what is more encouraging to dieters - reward of more food or punishment of less.

    Personally I don't like rewards or punishment with foods, AT ALL. From me all rewards are non foods, and definitely NO PUNISHMENT with lack of food. I didn't read into that at all.

    Oh, that wasn't in there, I'm trying to translate into how MFP could set themselves up better. Since their focus now is on reward method really if you think about it. Deficit is already in your daily goal, you exercise, you get to eat more and keep the deficit.
    But for some people, that isn't needed as encouragement and adds confusion, and may not actually be incentive.
    For them, using a total real TDEE with deficit, planned exercise, debit if not done, would be better incentive.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    Reminded me of a great saying I saw somewhere-

    "I will not reward myself with food, for I am not a dog!"

    Had to laugh at that one, how true.
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    One typo, starts out at beginning talking about the little effects of 90 min of exercise per WEEK.

    At the end to recap he mentions 90 min of exercise per DAY.

    In between he said 90 min of exercise per day did warrant including that exercise in the daily activity. Well, really, deficit from daily activity burn would always include exercise.

    But at least a nice balanced notion, even the fact of why you may need to eat more at end of diet.

    So even though your requirements have gone down during the loss, and you should indeed be eating less, but it should not be a constant set deficit, but less and less deficit as you weigh less and less.

    Perhaps MFP should stop the 250, 500, 750, 1000 deficit methods which can be used when you shouldn't be using them, and just go for % method.

    And since they are treating exercise as a reward to eat later to maintain the deficit, automatically take the same deficit off the credit calories.

    Or, give the option to treat planned exercise as the goal to work to with deficit off the total, and create a debit if you end up not doing the exercise.

    Not sure what is more encouraging to dieters - reward of more food or punishment of less.

    Personally I don't like rewards or punishment with foods, AT ALL. From me all rewards are non foods, and definitely NO PUNISHMENT with lack of food. I didn't read into that at all.

    Oh, that wasn't in there, I'm trying to translate into how MFP could set themselves up better. Since their focus now is on reward method really if you think about it. Deficit is already in your daily goal, you exercise, you get to eat more and keep the deficit.
    But for some people, that isn't needed as encouragement and adds confusion, and may not actually be incentive.
    For them, using a total real TDEE with deficit, planned exercise, debit if not done, would be better incentive.

    Ok got it. ;) I mainly just used MFP for the calorie counting/tracking and have not really looked at that stuff since I'm all set with my tools in that area already.
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