Do I exercise enough?

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I play Baseball & Dance (Hip Hop)
weight is 165 trying to lose 20-30 pounds
I eat about 1200 - 1500 a day

Everyday I wake up and jog in place for 10 minutes, then go outside do hurdles (ones they use for football) and then hit 20 balls on the tee (Baseball), then later I have a nice dance session for about 30 minutes and its not easy dancing you see at clubs, its to the point when im done im drenched. Last thing I do is 2 or maybe 3 times a week I have a baseball game or practice.

So someone help me out and answer the question, or tell me what Im doing wrong :(

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  • TCoop24
    TCoop24 Posts: 17
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    Help pleaseeee :(
  • ShallaLovee
    ShallaLovee Posts: 341 Member
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    Seems like your pretty active. This whole process takes time. Make sure your fueling your body as best as you can. I myself know I'm not the healthiest but I see people getting results no matter what they eat as long as it's in moderation. You can lose weight without exercising but with exercise I feel its even better. Your doing great just keep it up. Aim to improve in everything.
  • ravenrxx
    ravenrxx Posts: 455 Member
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    I'd say 30-45mins of cardio, at least 4-5x a week, will give you great results! as well with eating 1200-1500 calories a day!

    When your eating 1500 calories a day, try to get in 45 mins of cardio. =) Your doing great!
  • rubix08
    rubix08 Posts: 33 Member
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    It sounds like you are active throughout the week but losing weight is a combination of exercise and calorie intake. If you are working out too much and not eating enough then you may still find yourself struggling to lose or being very tired every day. You said that you are eating 1200-1500 calories a day, is that what you actually net at the end of the day when all the exercise is done?
  • TCoop24
    TCoop24 Posts: 17
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    I Net about 1000 a day, is that bad?
  • jlohcook
    jlohcook Posts: 228 Member
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    You sound like you are exercising enough. Watch what you eat, many foods contains hidden sugar and fats that you want to look out for. Although they are all calories, but I believe there are good ones and bad ones.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    I think it's plenty. Losing weight is almost entirely about calorie deficit. At your weight, you would likely do best to aim for a 500 calorie deficit daily. I would suggest setting MFP to 1lb/wk, logging all your exercise, and eating back most of your exercise calories. Doing that will get you a 500-calorie deficit, where you will be most likely to lose according to plan and have energy to continue all your activities. My guess is that 1200-1500 calories is probably too low for you. Too much of a deficit will get you hormonal disruptions and probably a plateau, as well as the risk of muscle loss and damaged metabolism. Just to be clear, I don't think you're necessarily eating a 'dangerously' low amount of calories, but that you will likely do better with a bit more.

    Without looking at your diary, I would also try to make sure to get 1g protein/lbs lean body mass. I would guess around 110g protein daily would be appropriate.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
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    why is my troll alarm going off?

    18 year old male, work outs include dancing and running in place, eats 1,000 calories and wants to lose 30 pounds and is at 165lbs?
  • TCoop24
    TCoop24 Posts: 17
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    @MoreBean13 Wouldnt eatting back my calorie deficit make me gain weight? It doesnt make sense to me, but I wanted to lose 2 lbs/wk and lose 10 pounds before the end of november.
  • TCoop24
    TCoop24 Posts: 17
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    @Captain_Apoll What do you mean?
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
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    I play Baseball & Dance (Hip Hop)
    weight is 165 trying to lose 20-30 pounds
    I eat about 1200 - 1500 a day

    Everyday I wake up and jog in place for 10 minutes, then go outside do hurdles (ones they use for football) and then hit 20 balls on the tee (Baseball), then later I have a nice dance session for about 30 minutes and its not easy dancing you see at clubs, its to the point when im done im drenched. Last thing I do is 2 or maybe 3 times a week I have a baseball game or practice.

    So someone help me out and answer the question, or tell me what Im doing wrong :(

    Well that depends on your RMR. Exercise is for making your lean body mass pretty and weight lifting will give you the most bang for shaping your body, it doesn't really do much for weight loss. You can't out exercise too many calories. I learned this an a marathon and ultra marathon runner who continued to gain weight even though I did not think I was eating too much.

    A calorie deficit is for weight loss. It is really easy to under estimate how much you are really eating. People play mental accounting games with calories just like with finances. Take a true hard look at calories, measure it out, weigh it (even packaged foods will be over - never under because companies will get in trouble, but it's legal for them to be over).

    Your body loses weight in chunks, not linear. I have found that you can do everything right and your weight loss seems to plateau but if you are patient and keep exercising and eating at a deficit (however slight) you will lose it, it will suddenly "whoosh". There are so many variables for the scale; water retention, digestion, hormones, allergies, sodium, carbs, water intake, DOMS, inflammation, the list goes on. People mistakenly think they lose or gain weight when they eat more or less because of these fluctuations.

    Losing weight requires tremendous patience. You will not lose it when you want it or where you want it. The body does its thing. Some apparent plateaus can last a month or so. You cannot make it happen faster. You must focus on two things; calories and exercise. Nothing else matters. Scales and metrics don't matter. The day in and day out grind of exercise and calories are all that matters. It is not very exciting until things fall into place. You get your victories and you ride one victory to the next.

    The scale is a trend tool. The scale is good but put it away and only check once a week and only use it as a trend tool. It will fluctuate, it does not matter. Take front side and back progress pictures at least once a month. You will see differences that the metrics won't tell you and it's that little bit of NSV that will keep you going until the next victory.

    Some people will say you need to eat more. Some people will say you need to eat less. Only you can decide or check with your doctor. But what would make the most sense? Taller people have more room in their calorie budget to go up or down. Shorter people have less room and get frustrated with "eat more" because that typically does not work. If you are confused about it don't just listen to any of us, do some research and get approval from your doctor, then just do what you need to do and tune the rest of us out.

    It really depends on your RMR. If you are short like I am then your RMR is really just above the 1200 limit so you really don't have much room for a calorie deficit and going up is less likely to work. If you are taller you will have a higher RMR and can go up or down and still be in a deficit so you can lose no matter what. All that matters is a calorie deficit. If you are short it can be hard to have a deficit at 1200 or above so your only option is to check with your doctor. I did and he agreed and had me go down.

    Exercise is to make your lean body mass pretty, strong, and healthy (especially lifting weights).

    A calorie deficit is to lose fat. A calorie budget keeps your fat level where you need to be, either losing fat or maintaining.

    Nothing else really matters much.

    You don't have to worry about starvation mode unless you are down to 12% and you will likely be happy with your weight before you get to that point.
    What is the exact number of calories for you?

    We’ve been trying to figure out an exact NUMBER of calories that everyone should be eating, without recognizing that everyone is slightly different. In truth, the calories aren’t the end game. Your body is. So the EXACT amount of Calories that are right for you is the EXACT amount that will allow you to maintain your ideal bodyweight no matter what some calculator or chart says.

    In other words, an online calculator might tell you that you need to eat 2,500 calories
    per day to maintain your ideal bodyweight. But the only way to know for sure if this is
    the right amount for you is to test it out. If you gain weight or can’t lose weight eating
    that much, then you know you need to eat less to lose weight no matter how many
    calculators and text books say otherwise.

    This doesn’t mean your metabolism is broken, it just means the estimate of your needs
    was just a bit off.

    -John Barban (The Body Centric Calorie Guide from the Venus Index and Adonis Index Manuals)
    The Theory of Fat Availability:
    •There is a set amount of fat that can be released from a fat cell.
    •The more fat you have, the more fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •The less fat you have, the less fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •Towards the end of a transformation, when body fat is extremely low you
    may not have enough fat to handle a large caloric deficit anymore.

    At the extreme low end, when your body fat cannot ‘keep up’ with the energy deficit
    you've imposed on your body, the energy MUST come from SOMEWHERE. This is
    when you are at risk of losing lean body mass during dieting (commonly referred to
    as ‘starvation mode’). This happens at extremely low levels of body fat, under 6% in
    men and 12% in women [Friedl K.E. J Appl Phsiol, 1994].

    -Brad Pilon and John Barban (from The Reverse Taper Diet in The Adonis Index and Venus Index manuals)
  • Jamie_Lauren
    Jamie_Lauren Posts: 211 Member
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    @MoreBean13 Wouldnt eatting back my calorie deficit make me gain weight? It doesnt make sense to me, but I wanted to lose 2 lbs/wk and lose 10 pounds before the end of november.

    No, it won't make you gain weight. If you set MFP according to your goals, it gives you a calorie goal that is already at a deficit, meaning that you will still lose weight if you don't exercise. When you do exercise and earn calories, it is a good idea to eat back at least some of these calories because if your deficit is TOO low, your body can go into starvation mode and actually slow your metabolism down. If this happens, your body will hold onto every calorie you eat and that's bad!

    It sounds like you are definitely active enough though. Weight loss is 80% diet anyway, so maybe focus on what you are eating rather than how much exercise you are doing. The big killers are sugar and simple carbs (white bread, pasta etc) so try stick to foods that are high in protein, fiber, good fats and complex carbohydrates (brown bread, sweet potatoes, brown rice etc).

    Hope this helps :)
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    @MoreBean13 Wouldnt eatting back my calorie deficit make me gain weight? It doesnt make sense to me, but I wanted to lose 2 lbs/wk and lose 10 pounds before the end of november.

    No, eating back your exercise cals won't make you gain weight. Like Jamona said, you're already at a deficit. If you're set to lose 2 lbs /week, that's a 1,000 calorie deficit. Then, is you, say, exercise 475 calories, your deficit becomes 1,475 calories. That big of a deficit is unhealthy for a person with a starting weight of 165lbs.

    2lbs/week is not a sustainable goal for someone of with your starting weight. If you manage to keep the pace up and lose the 10lbs by the end of November, you will have done so at the cost of your metabolism and muscle mass, and will almost definitely regain the weight at the end. Worse yet, when you sacrifice muscle, and then regain weight, you end up the same weight you started, but fatter. It's why yo-yo dieting is a bad thing- you just get a little fatter with each cycle of doing it.

    I would strongly advise you to re-assess your goals. Get your bodyfat measured, and consider working towards a bodyfat goal rather than a weight goal. You will look better and end up fit, rather than skinny and hungry.
  • TCoop24
    TCoop24 Posts: 17
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    @MoreBean13 im only 5'8 weighing 165, im chubby its not like im skinny trying to get skinnier.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    @MoreBean13 im only 5'8 weighing 165, im chubby its not like im skinny trying to get skinnier.

    OK- you're at the upper end of healthy. I don't mean to suggest you're underweight, but 2 lbs/week is appropriate for people with 50-100lbs+ to lose to get in the healthy range. You're 'skinny' for a weight loss community. The amount of weight you want to lose is from healthy weight to lower but still healthy weight- those would be considered vanity lbs. Vanity lbs are difficult to lose, and requires some patience. Probably 1lb/wk is even pushing it, and perhaps you should strive for 1lb/wk but be prepared to be satisfied with 0.5lbs/wk. I would still consider a bodyfat goal instead of a weight goal. You could add muscle, stay at your current weight, and not be chubby. Just something to think about.

    Either way, your deficit is too high. It's not going to get you the results you want.