I /should/ be losing, but instead I'm gaining. Help!

I'm 22, female, 5'8", currently 175 lbs.

I log in regularly and try to stay around 1200-1500 cals/ day (more protein, less fat and carbs than mfp thinks I should eat). There are definitely days I'm over that (mostly due to drinking on weekends with friends), but I still log EVERYTHING I put in my mouth, and probably have five or six days a month at about 1900 calories. I walk or run 1.5-3 miles 3- 4 times a week... and I just keep gaining weight and inches. I'm ten pounds heavier than I was when I joined mfp in June... and I'm not sure why.

Any advice? I'm getting frustrated and am tired of not seeing results!
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  • sallysuze
    sallysuze Posts: 65 Member
    How is drinking alcohol helping your fitness/weight loss goals?
  • amnsetie
    amnsetie Posts: 666 Member
    If you don't open your diary we can't give you any advice
    :)
  • nw00778
    nw00778 Posts: 22
    I would start reading the labels. Make sure to pay attention to sugars and fats. Everybody is different and MFP doesn't always get it right when it says that thing about you'll weigh XXX in 5 weeks. If I were you I would cut the cals to 1200 and don't have anymore of those 1900 days, it really adds up. Good thing is you are young and can learn now how different type effect your body because believe me, in the next couple of years it won't be as easy. Since you are a drinker try to only drink like 1 or 2 times a month. I know when i was your age and in college, I would have rolled my eyes but really it is soooo worth it, you can drink more once you realize how to maintain and really I know how annoying it is to go out with friends and feel overweight...its much more fun skinnier!
  • It may not hurt to consult your doctor to make sure its not thyroids. there are other factors that can cause weight gain. sometimes medical reasons can really mess things up when you want to lose weight. Talk to your Dr . A regular physical is so important! And any abnormal blood work will show if your thyroid is not working properly. :) Hope you get answers soon :)
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    Just made my diary public... took me awhile to find the setting!

    And I just graduated, moved to a new area, and am meeting new people :) Drinking definitely doesn't help ( empty calories). I know it's no excuse, but everyone I've met is married and doesn't want to be friends or drinks heavily... I'm usually the soberest one, haha. I'll try to cut back!!

    And, thefitflorist, I had my thyroid checked two years ago (normal) and had a blood work up a few weeks ago when I started my job (I'm a nuclear engineer, so they're really picky about health), and they didn;t mention anything. I'll definitely go get checked out again soon!

    Thank you everyone :)
  • sallysuze
    sallysuze Posts: 65 Member
    Three random days I opened in your diary...
    total cals 2516
    total cals 1410 (all from one meal of nachos and fries, nothing else logged!)
    total cals 3521

    two of those days were weekdays not weekends.

    So what do you need help with again?
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    You should look through the rest.. nachos was the day after my birthday and I was hungover. Also not a week day. Don't know when the others were. Generally, if I've been eating like crap, I stay the same weight. And if I start to feel guilty and try to be better, I'm plus two in a week.

    And I understand that you think I'm stupid, but I'd appreciate it if you'd try to not be condescending. This is me trying.

    Thank you for your help.
  • YOUR DAILY CALORIE GOAL IS 1,951 DID YOU GO TO SETTINGS AND INPUT HOW MANY DAYS YOU WILL BE EXCERCISE AND HOW LONG YOUR WORK OUTS WILL BE.?
    IF YOU DID IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW MANY CALORIES YOU NEED TO BURN A WEEK IN YOUR WORK OUTS TO LOSE THAT AMT OF WEEKLY LBS YOU INPUTTED THAT YOU WANTED TO LOSE...ARE YOU BURNING MORE THAN MFP IS SUGGESTING?
  • Try cutting out alcohol.
  • RzRzRzR
    RzRzRzR Posts: 72 Member
    Stop drinking alcohol and limit sodium.
  • gimpygramma
    gimpygramma Posts: 383 Member
    The days I looked at were low cal days and looked pretty good. What I am wondering is if you might be underestimating portion size. If you are not already measuring and weighing your food you might want to give it a try. Good luck. I know this must be incredibly frustrating for you.
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    YOUR DAILY CALORIE GOAL IS 1,951 DID YOU GO TO SETTINGS AND INPUT HOW MANY DAYS YOU WILL BE EXCERCISE AND HOW LONG YOUR WORK OUTS WILL BE.?
    IF YOU DID IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW MANY CALORIES YOU NEED TO BURN A WEEK IN YOUR WORK OUTS TO LOSE THAT AMT OF WEEKLY LBS YOU INPUTTED THAT YOU WANTED TO LOSE...ARE YOU BURNING MORE THAN MFP IS SUGGESTING?

    My daily calorie goal is about 1450 but mfp decides to add any calories you've burned to your "daily calorie goal." The settings I chose were lose 1 lb / week and work out for 45 mins 3 times a week. It keeps track of how many minutes I've spent exercising in a given week compared to my goal, but doesn't set a goal for how many calories to burn because it didn't ask me what kind of exercise I'd be doing.

    And to answer your question, I technically burn more than mft is set at because I walk 15 minutes to and 15 minutes from work (briskly) every day, then run three or four times a week (which is what I count as a "work out").

    I think that's what you wanted. Thanks :)
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  • katevarner
    katevarner Posts: 884 Member
    I think you are too inconsistent and your body doesn't know what's going on, but that works for some people. Some days you aren't eating nearly enough to fuel your body.

    You are eating a lot of junk, tho. Try to eat a little less processed food (hard unless you cook or eat at good restaurants) and try to eat closer to the same number of calories every day--and don't eat under 1200 calories, particularly on days that you are exercising. See how that goes for a couple of weeks. If that doesn't work, ask for more help.

    May also want to answer sassyt1206's questions, too. Or find the roadmap stuff and figure BMR and TDEE unless that's where your current calories came from.
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    The days I looked at were low cal days and looked pretty good. What I am wondering is if you might be underestimating portion size. If you are not already measuring and weighing your food you might want to give it a try. Good luck. I know this must be incredibly frustrating for you.

    Thank you!!! I'll go buy a scale this week. I definitely have issues guessing in ounces rather than portions of a lb or cup.
  • lachesissss
    lachesissss Posts: 1,298 Member
    My recommendation would be to research your BMR and TDEE. From there recalculate your daily calorie intake. Once you've figured that out, I would focus on incorporating more fresh, whole foods into your regime and try to cut down on the processed. In terms of exercising, I would add lifting to your cardio, because muscle will burn your calories for you and help you look toned and lean. Maybe one day a week do more challenging cardio exercises, as in run for a longer distance or for faster or on different terrain. Don't over do it on the exercise and don't cut your daily calorie intake so low that you feel ravenous, or are tempted to binge. Keep everything moderate. If you have a weekly calorie deficit from exercise, drinking on the weekends won't throw you off track so much during the week.

    This has just been my experience, your mileage may vary.
  • meeka472
    meeka472 Posts: 283 Member
    I looked at your diary and it appears that you are hitting your calorie goals but here are the two things that I would recommend:

    1. Measure your food - I made this same mistake when I started here. I thought that I had a good idea of my portions and that I was eating smaller portions than I thought they were. When I purchased a food scale and started measuring I found that I was actually eating twice the amount that I was logging. Once I got the scale I went from a "plateau" to losing immediately

    2. Cook your own meals when possible - Looks like you are eating out a lot and the problem with that is that you cannot really be sure that they are really serving the portion sizes that they are reporting or that they are using the ingredients that they are reporting. This could vary from place to place. In addition there is a lot more sodium in those food. The more foods you prepare, the better is is for you to ensure the correct calories.

    All in all, good job on logging and good luck with your weight loss.
  • sallysuze
    sallysuze Posts: 65 Member

    And I understand that you think I'm stupid, but I'd appreciate it if you'd try to not be condescending. This is me trying.
    My condenscion brought out your defensiveness though. Sure you might have days that eating well that I didn't see, but getting defensive and excusing your binge days is not going to see you losing weight.

    If you look at cals in and cals out over a week or over a month, on average, what do you see? My guess is that all the cal limiting and exercising you do is completely undone on the days when you indulge and socialise.

    Perhaps a little more consistency, and a little less takeaways/eating out, will see you losing weight and getting fitter.
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    My recommendation would be to research your BMR and TDEE. From there recalculate your daily calorie intake. Once you've figured that out, I would focus on incorporating more fresh, whole foods into your regime and try to cut down on the processed. In terms of exercising, I would add lifting to your cardio, because muscle will burn your calories for you and help you look toned and lean. Maybe one day a week do more challenging cardio exercises, as in run for a longer distance or for faster or on different terrain. Don't over do it on the exercise and don't cut your daily calorie intake so low that you feel ravenous, or are tempted to binge. Keep everything moderate. If you have a weekly calorie deficit from exercise, drinking on the weekends won't throw you off track so much during the week.

    This has just been my experience, your mileage may vary.

    bmr:about 1670, tdee, inputting "desk job": 1960. Which I'm fairly certain is what my mfp settings are based on.

    I'll definitely add some strength training and try to switch it up.

    Thank you!
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    I looked at your diary and it appears that you are hitting your calorie goals but here are the two things that I would recommend:

    1. Measure your food - I made this same mistake when I started here. I thought that I had a good idea of my portions and that I was eating smaller portions than I thought they were. When I purchased a food scale and started measuring I found that I was actually eating twice the amount that I was logging. Once I got the scale I went from a "plateau" to losing immediately

    2. Cook your own meals when possible - Looks like you are eating out a lot and the problem with that is that you cannot really be sure that they are really serving the portion sizes that they are reporting or that they are using the ingredients that they are reporting. This could vary from place to place. In addition there is a lot more sodium in those food. The more foods you prepare, the better is is for you to ensure the correct calories.

    All in all, good job on logging and good luck with your weight loss.

    Thank you SO much for the advice! I really appreciate it.
  • judychicken
    judychicken Posts: 937 Member
    you should track your sugar and see it that whats making you gain weight.
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    I'm 22, female, 5'8", currently 175 lbs.

    I log in regularly and try to stay around 1200-1500 cals/ day (more protein, less fat and carbs than mfp thinks I should eat). There are definitely days I'm over that (mostly due to drinking on weekends with friends), but I still log EVERYTHING I put in my mouth, and probably have five or six days a month at about 1900 calories. I walk or run 1.5-3 miles 3- 4 times a week... and I just keep gaining weight and inches. I'm ten pounds heavier than I was when I joined mfp in June... and I'm not sure why.

    Any advice? I'm getting frustrated and am tired of not seeing results!

    You are 5'8" so you will have a higher RMR than most of us shorter girls. You are not doing a whole lot to help shape your lean body mass. Cardio alone isn't enough.

    I would encourage you to start a beginner weight lifting routine. Just 3 days a week. Why?

    Lifting weights is KEY. I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is! Also I believe it is why most people think I look much younger than I really am.

    Start lifting now, lift heavy and change it up often, find a lot of weight routines with free weights, make it fun, embrace it, make it part of your life. Only 3 days a week is all it would take. Crank up your tunes and learn to love it, because your body will love it and it will make your quality of life better in many ways, especially when you get older like me.

    Because of this I don't have to worry about osteoporosis. If you wait until you are older and your bones start to deteriorate it's a bit too late, you can't get back what you lost, you can only start a resistance routine that will prevent further damage.

    If you are a girl you don't have the hormones to get big naturally. I lift heavy and I'm still really tiny. My lean body mass is only 104 lbs and that is fairly heavy for a 5'1" female, and quite a bit of this is due to my having very dense bones from 30 years of lifting, not all muscle, and I'm still quite tiny.

    My muscles really are not that big, but they show a lot of definition because I'm quite lean. If I gained some fat then I would have a softer more toned look (which is OKAY too!). Then if I gained more fat I would look bulking and hefty like I did most of my life until last year. YOU CAN HAVE WHATEVER YOU WANT. Lean and ripped, soft and toned, or hefty, it all depends on how much fat you leave on your body. Calories are the only thing that changes fat. Exercise is for changing or maintaining your lean body mass only. Lifting weights will give you the best bang for your buck for shaping your body. I finally changed my shape by putting lifting first and cardio 2nd. You cannot out exercise too many calories.

    Your body loses weight in chunks, not linear. I have found that you can do everything right and your weight loss seems to plateau but if you are patient and keep exercising and eating at a deficit (however slight) you will lose it, it will suddenly "whoosh". There are so many variables for the scale; water retention, digestion, hormones, allergies, sodium, carbs, water intake, DOMS, inflammation, the list goes on. People mistakenly think they lose or gain weight when they eat more or less because of these fluctuations.

    Losing weight requires tremendous patience. You will not lose it when you want it or where you want it. The body does its thing. Some apparent plateaus can last a month or so. You cannot make it happen faster. You must focus on two things; calories and exercise. Nothing else matters. Scales and metrics don't matter. The day in and day out grind of exercise and calories are all that matters. It is not very exciting until things fall into place. You get your victories and you ride one victory to the next.

    The scale is a trend tool. The scale is good but put it away and only check once a week and only use it as a trend tool. It will fluctuate, it does not matter. Take front side and back progress pictures at least once a month. You will see differences that the metrics won't tell you and it's that little bit of NSV that will keep you going until the next victory.

    To say eat more is wrong.

    To say eat less is wrong.

    To find the exact calories needed for YOU to be in a healthy sustainable calorie deficit is the right answer. Wait, if you need to adjust by 100 do it, wait, adjust, wait, adjust, wait. The tortoise wins this race.

    All that matters is calories. A healthy balanced diet within a calorie budget for a deficit that is right for YOU is all that matters for weight loss. Don't make it complicated.

    It really depends on your RMR. If you are short like I am then your RMR is really just above the 1200 limit so you really don't have much room for a calorie deficit and going up is less likely to work. If you are taller you will have a higher RMR and can go up or down and still be in a deficit so you can lose no matter what. All that matters is a calorie deficit.

    Some people can eat at a big calorie deficit and some people can't. Everyone is different. Even a small calorie deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones as such, add a new workout routine, and those will make more spikes. This is a huge waiting game and requires much patience. Add in emotional eating issues and then you have more complications.

    Also people play mental accounting games with calories just like with finances. Make steps to make sure you are making accurate measurements. Packaged foods can have MORE than they say but not less (they get in trouble if less so they would rather error with MORE).

    If you typically intake sodium at a certain rate your body adjusts, but if you make a sudden change then you will see a spike.

    Exercise is for making your lean body mass pretty (especially lifting weights) for when the fat is gone. Losing fat with no muscle is ugly and cardio alone will not make you pretty. You cannot out exercise too many calories.
    What is the exact number of calories for you?

    We’ve been trying to figure out an exact NUMBER of calories that everyone should be eating, without recognizing that everyone is slightly different. In truth, the calories aren’t the end game. Your body is. So the EXACT amount of Calories that are right for you is the EXACT amount that will allow you to maintain your ideal bodyweight no matter what some calculator or chart says.

    In other words, an online calculator might tell you that you need to eat 2,500 calories
    per day to maintain your ideal bodyweight. But the only way to know for sure if this is
    the right amount for you is to test it out. If you gain weight or can’t lose weight eating
    that much, then you know you need to eat less to lose weight no matter how many
    calculators and text books say otherwise.

    This doesn’t mean your metabolism is broken, it just means the estimate of your needs
    was just a bit off.

    -John Barban (The Body Centric Calorie Guide from the Venus Index and Adonis Index Manuals)


    The good thing is you don't have to worry about the starvation mode myth if you are fat. Only skinny people have to worry about starvation mode. It does not mean you have the capability to eat at a large calorie deficit if you have emotional eating disorders or other issues going on, but at least you don't have to be afraid of it anymore.

    The Theory of Fat Availability:
    •There is a set amount of fat that can be released from a fat cell.
    •The more fat you have, the more fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •The less fat you have, the less fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •Towards the end of a transformation, when body fat is extremely low you
    may not have enough fat to handle a large caloric deficit anymore.

    At the extreme low end, when your body fat cannot ‘keep up’ with the energy deficit
    you've imposed on your body, the energy MUST come from SOMEWHERE. This is
    when you are at risk of losing lean body mass during dieting (commonly referred to
    as ‘starvation mode’). This happens at extremely low levels of body fat, under 6% in
    men and 12% in women [Friedl K.E. J Appl Phsiol, 1994].

    -Brad Pilon and John Barban (from The Reverse Taper Diet in The Adonis Index and Venus Index manuals)
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member

    And I understand that you think I'm stupid, but I'd appreciate it if you'd try to not be condescending. This is me trying.
    My condenscion brought out your defensiveness though. Sure you might have days that eating well that I didn't see, but getting defensive and excusing your binge days is not going to see you losing weight.

    If you look at cals in and cals out over a week or over a month, on average, what do you see? My guess is that all the cal limiting and exercising you do is completely undone on the days when you indulge and socialise.

    Perhaps a little more consistency, and a little less takeaways/eating out, will see you losing weight and getting fitter.

    On average, over a week or a month, I vary from just under to just over my "goal." Which is below both my bmr and tdee. Hence this post.

    I recognize I'm not perfect. Not even close :) And I am definitely defensive; picking my weakest moments and rubbing them in my face is the exact opposite of the encouragement I came here to find. It was hard for me get to the point where I could honestly track my foods because I'd feel so guilty (which, by the way, makes me want to eat more because I've already failed).

    Thank you for your input
  • arlenem1974
    arlenem1974 Posts: 437 Member
    The first week I was on here I lost 4.2 LBS the first week then I only lost .6 LBS the second week. I changed my cal intake from 1500 to 1310 I have lost 1.5 LBS -2.5 LBS per week ever since.
  • deja_blu
    deja_blu Posts: 359 Member
    I agree with most things listed here. If you are drinking mixed drinks, they are LOADED with sugar.

    Also, be patient. Sometimes you got to get up to get down. Mix up your workouts every 30 days or so. Add strength training to your regimen. The more muscle in your body, the more better equipped you are in burning fat (as long as you are eating properly).

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  • teenio7
    teenio7 Posts: 104 Member
    My recommendation at least for the drinking is to do shots (less calories) and use a no calorie drink for a chaser like diet coke, but don't go overboard. :) When you do mix drinks also use no calorie like Fresca. You could also drink wine. My skinny friends slowly sip that and they also count calories. I am usually the DD, so I will just drink water. It helps because people won't be trying to buy you drinks and you can still hang out and have fun. Hope that helps.
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    I'm 22, female, 5'8", currently 175 lbs.

    I log in regularly and try to stay around 1200-1500 cals/ day (more protein, less fat and carbs than mfp thinks I should eat). There are definitely days I'm over that (mostly due to drinking on weekends with friends), but I still log EVERYTHING I put in my mouth, and probably have five or six days a month at about 1900 calories. I walk or run 1.5-3 miles 3- 4 times a week... and I just keep gaining weight and inches. I'm ten pounds heavier than I was when I joined mfp in June... and I'm not sure why.

    Any advice? I'm getting frustrated and am tired of not seeing results!

    You are 5'8" so you will have a higher RMR than most of us shorter girls. You are not doing a whole lot to help shape your lean body mass. Cardio alone isn't enough.

    I would encourage you to start a beginner weight lifting routine. Just 3 days a week. Why?

    Lifting weights is KEY. I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is! Also I believe it is why most people think I look much younger than I really am.

    Start lifting now, lift heavy and change it up often, find a lot of weight routines with free weights, make it fun, embrace it, make it part of your life. Only 3 days a week is all it would take. Crank up your tunes and learn to love it, because your body will love it and it will make your quality of life better in many ways, especially when you get older like me.

    Because of this I don't have to worry about osteoporosis. If you wait until you are older and your bones start to deteriorate it's a bit too late, you can't get back what you lost, you can only start a resistance routine that will prevent further damage.

    If you are a girl you don't have the hormones to get big naturally. I lift heavy and I'm still really tiny. My lean body mass is only 104 lbs and that is fairly heavy for a 5'1" female, and quite a bit of this is due to my having very dense bones from 30 years of lifting, not all muscle, and I'm still quite tiny.

    My muscles really are not that big, but they show a lot of definition because I'm quite lean. If I gained some fat then I would have a softer more toned look (which is OKAY too!). Then if I gained more fat I would look bulking and hefty like I did most of my life until last year. YOU CAN HAVE WHATEVER YOU WANT. Lean and ripped, soft and toned, or hefty, it all depends on how much fat you leave on your body. Calories are the only thing that changes fat. Exercise is for changing or maintaining your lean body mass only. Lifting weights will give you the best bang for your buck for shaping your body. I finally changed my shape by putting lifting first and cardio 2nd. You cannot out exercise too many calories.

    Your body loses weight in chunks, not linear. I have found that you can do everything right and your weight loss seems to plateau but if you are patient and keep exercising and eating at a deficit (however slight) you will lose it, it will suddenly "whoosh". There are so many variables for the scale; water retention, digestion, hormones, allergies, sodium, carbs, water intake, DOMS, inflammation, the list goes on. People mistakenly think they lose or gain weight when they eat more or less because of these fluctuations.

    Losing weight requires tremendous patience. You will not lose it when you want it or where you want it. The body does its thing. Some apparent plateaus can last a month or so. You cannot make it happen faster. You must focus on two things; calories and exercise. Nothing else matters. Scales and metrics don't matter. The day in and day out grind of exercise and calories are all that matters. It is not very exciting until things fall into place. You get your victories and you ride one victory to the next.

    The scale is a trend tool. The scale is good but put it away and only check once a week and only use it as a trend tool. It will fluctuate, it does not matter. Take front side and back progress pictures at least once a month. You will see differences that the metrics won't tell you and it's that little bit of NSV that will keep you going until the next victory.

    To say eat more is wrong.

    To say eat less is wrong.

    To find the exact calories needed for YOU to be in a healthy sustainable calorie deficit is the right answer. Wait, if you need to adjust by 100 do it, wait, adjust, wait, adjust, wait. The tortoise wins this race.

    All that matters is calories. A healthy balanced diet within a calorie budget for a deficit that is right for YOU is all that matters for weight loss. Don't make it complicated.

    It really depends on your RMR. If you are short like I am then your RMR is really just above the 1200 limit so you really don't have much room for a calorie deficit and going up is less likely to work. If you are taller you will have a higher RMR and can go up or down and still be in a deficit so you can lose no matter what. All that matters is a calorie deficit.

    Some people can eat at a big calorie deficit and some people can't. Everyone is different. Even a small calorie deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones as such, add a new workout routine, and those will make more spikes. This is a huge waiting game and requires much patience. Add in emotional eating issues and then you have more complications.

    Also people play mental accounting games with calories just like with finances. Make steps to make sure you are making accurate measurements. Packaged foods can have MORE than they say but not less (they get in trouble if less so they would rather error with MORE).

    If you typically intake sodium at a certain rate your body adjusts, but if you make a sudden change then you will see a spike.

    Exercise is for making your lean body mass pretty (especially lifting weights) for when the fat is gone. Losing fat with no muscle is ugly and cardio alone will not make you pretty. You cannot out exercise too many calories.
    What is the exact number of calories for you?

    We’ve been trying to figure out an exact NUMBER of calories that everyone should be eating, without recognizing that everyone is slightly different. In truth, the calories aren’t the end game. Your body is. So the EXACT amount of Calories that are right for you is the EXACT amount that will allow you to maintain your ideal bodyweight no matter what some calculator or chart says.

    In other words, an online calculator might tell you that you need to eat 2,500 calories
    per day to maintain your ideal bodyweight. But the only way to know for sure if this is
    the right amount for you is to test it out. If you gain weight or can’t lose weight eating
    that much, then you know you need to eat less to lose weight no matter how many
    calculators and text books say otherwise.

    This doesn’t mean your metabolism is broken, it just means the estimate of your needs
    was just a bit off.

    -John Barban (The Body Centric Calorie Guide from the Venus Index and Adonis Index Manuals)


    The good thing is you don't have to worry about the starvation mode myth if you are fat. Only skinny people have to worry about starvation mode. It does not mean you have the capability to eat at a large calorie deficit if you have emotional eating disorders or other issues going on, but at least you don't have to be afraid of it anymore.

    The Theory of Fat Availability:
    •There is a set amount of fat that can be released from a fat cell.
    •The more fat you have, the more fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •The less fat you have, the less fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •Towards the end of a transformation, when body fat is extremely low you
    may not have enough fat to handle a large caloric deficit anymore.

    At the extreme low end, when your body fat cannot ‘keep up’ with the energy deficit
    you've imposed on your body, the energy MUST come from SOMEWHERE. This is
    when you are at risk of losing lean body mass during dieting (commonly referred to
    as ‘starvation mode’). This happens at extremely low levels of body fat, under 6% in
    men and 12% in women [Friedl K.E. J Appl Phsiol, 1994].

    -Brad Pilon and John Barban (from The Reverse Taper Diet in The Adonis Index and Venus Index manuals)

    THANK YOU!!! That was a lot of good information :)
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    Teenio7 and Deja_blu:

    Good advice! It's a way to still have a life and lose weight :) How do you guys deal with people making fun of you for drinking "like a girl"? ... maybe it's just me because I'm in a male-dominated field haha
  • teenio7
    teenio7 Posts: 104 Member
    Teenio7 and Deja_blu:

    Good advice! It's a way to still have a life and lose weight :) How do you guys deal with people making fun of you for drinking "like a girl"? ... maybe it's just me because I'm in a male-dominated field haha

    Luckily my friends will tease me only for a few minutes but then they will give up. If you like the guy you are hanging out with, I would just tell him you are trying to lose weight to fit into a sexy costume :P. If they are just your friends, they 'should' understand. You will get crap, but I think a lot of people appreciate a DD.
  • Kendralh
    Kendralh Posts: 40 Member
    haha perfect! I'm definitely trying the costume line, Halloween is coming up!