Scared of bingeing!
Dennish68
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Hi all. I am over my calories today. I have done this once before over the last 5 weeks since i have been tracking my food. What scares me this time is that my food addict side is trying to come through; The part of me that says "F%$K it. i blew it already, i might as well eat fast food". I just want to be able to get through this feeling and get back on track tomorrow. Judging by my history, i would go on a food bender for days/weeks and regain all the weight i worked so hard to lose
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You also know best just how it wont hurt NOT to give in. You'll forget it. Go for a walk, anything!!! You will feel like a loser if you give in- then will follow a downward spiral. But if you don't you can use THAT as your "done it before" inspiration to keep going!!! xxx0
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I've discovered that I can't plan to get back on track "tomorrow" because it can take a loooooooooooong time to come. Instead, I catch myself and get back on "track" right now as often as I can. Not that I never slip up, but there are more times when I will find myself in the kitchen with the refrigerator door open reaching for the cheese (for example). I catch myself, say a firm mental "no - it's not meal-time, and you can wait." Then I take myself out of the kitchen to get back to what I should be doing.
Of course if I'm tired and stressed, it's harder to take control. But the second that I can, I do. I don't let myself slip up on purpose anymore, and that's what would happen with "tomorrow I'll get back on track" .0 -
I did the SAME thing over lunch today. I got slightly hungry and went nuts and ate like 1200 calories. But I tracked it and am going to have a lighter dinner and not beat myself up. Dieting it a one day/mistake/accomplishment at a time thing so just keep on keeping on!0
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Do what I do. If I get to feeling snackish even though I know it's bad, I just steam or saute up some broccoli, cauliflower, or mushrooms and eat away. I get full, don't have room for more, and barely budge my calories!0
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ur calling urself out on it and thats a good thing! i do the same thing, like well, 'u already ate one donut, why not eat the rest of the box?' (ask me why i even have a box of donuts and ill tear ur face off, lol) BUT YA...i do it too, and remeber if u eat enough in one day to feed urself for 3 days, then no matter how hard u exercise, ur still behind 3 days right?! does that even make sense? lol0
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Ditto what everyone else said. If I go overboard then I TRACK IT and make it a point to eat better the rest of the day or take a walk or do a longer work out. Make up for it with 2 days a healthy eating.0
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chew on some gum or suck on a hard candy, it helps because it keeps your mouth busy for awhile without very many calories. Also go for a walk and then think about all the reasons why you wanted to lose weight in the first place and think about how far you have come. You know it isnt worth it and once you give in it is so hard to get back ontrack,,, it is easier to get back on the track if we are not far from it the further off we go the harder it is to get back. I hope that made sense and helps you know it wont make you feel better only for a few minutes while you are eating....then you will feel worse....DONT DO IT0
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I did the same today but I MADE myself acknowledge and log all of the food. That at least helps make them real calories and not just the calories we pretend do not exist. Everyone has slip ups but tomorrow is a new day...and your next meal is a new chance. I always try to just acknowledge and forget what I have done, try to pinpoint why I did it and then move on. I ate like 500 cal worth of candy and I can either let it ruin that part of my day or the rest of my life. You have to decide to let it go and move on in a positive way. Good luck, I understand as I truly struggle with it,too.0
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yes you went over BUT most of your other days were under your goal , sometimes we go over now and then but its not going to do to much damage if any at all0
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Do a 30min workout (ANYthing) and you'll burn some of that overage, PLUS you'll replace an urge to be self-destructive with a positive activity and give yourself a nice boost!
BUT, don't beat yourself up about the overage, it happens and it is NOT a failing!!
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I understand completely! The only problem with that is that sometimes....tomorrow never comes!! Or it comes one month later after I've gained 6 lbs. My binges happen after dinner. I still struggle with it too!
I do that sometimes too but am learning that by still tracking and seeing those insanely high numbers on my food journal, it makes me want to try harder. Food truly can be an addiction for some, I might be one of them....I love it so much!
But yes, just accept your weak moments and pick yourself up and keep trying. Binging really becomes a habit and it takes awhile to break habits afterall. Keep trying.0 -
Listen - we all stumble! It's okay! And you've logged it, you can see the damage you've done. That means you still have the opportunity to make it right - do you have time today to do a quick workout or head out to the gym and burn it off? Don't get too down on yourself! They don't call it a journey for nothing0
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What I find helpful is questioning myself asking..."What will I feel like after eating this?" "Does my body need it?" "Will eating this make me reach my goal weight?"
Or even better, just don't have "bad" food even in your cupboards. If it is out of your sight then it will be out of your mouth!
xX Never give up!!! xX0 -
What I find helpful is questioning myself asking..."What will I feel like after eating this?" "Does my body need it?" "Will eating this make me reach my goal weight?"
Or even better, just don't have "bad" food even in your cupboards. If it is out of your sight then it will be out of your mouth!
xX Never give up!!! xX
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everytime you feel like eating get up and do something it works for me good luck0
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remember how it makes you feel after your binges...write it down. It makes me feel horrible, fat, sleepy, sluggish, like a failure, nauseated, the list goes on....and REMEMBER its never too late to do a little exercise to burn some of it off Good luck and best wishes to you!0
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We cant let one bad minute ruin the whole day.0
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I did the same thing today. I went over on my protein. But I'm not giving in, I have to do more workout this evening. Thank you all for the posts. I'm not the only one0
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I have gone over slightly a couple of times in the last 15 days. I figure it all works out in the end. I have also made a committment to myslef to log so I can spot where i have problems and to consider myself not on a diet but on a quest for a healthy lifestyle. There are no binges because nothing is forbidden.0
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That happened to me yesterday at dinner.
The way I see it, theres no point in trying to fight it. Give in and eat as you please, but try to savor every bite instead of just shoveling it in mindlessly. *Hopefully* the next day you'll realize it wasn't a good idea, and naturally you'll want to eat better.
That's how it was for me today. I didn't have that defeatist "wow you f*cked up yesterday, you better be BETTER than perfect today" attitude about it. I just naturally wanted to make better choices and push myself harder, because I knew I could do better than that.0 -
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You can read brain over binge, that has helped me and i have BED.
Basicaly it says this;
The higher brain is like the frontal lobe, which as you know, our frontal lobe is significantly larger than that of animals. It's what allows us to interpret message from other part of a brains and choose either to ignore them, ro act on it. It controls our movements, and is where we think and it is the 'I' of the brain. It's the part that you would consider you. The higer self if you will. The lower brain is the Hypothalamus, which controls hormonal secretions from the Pituitary gland. It produces all the animal instincts, like desire for sexual reproduction, eating, drinking, growth, maternial instinct, and is involved in the aspects of your behaviour. It also contains your biological clock. It is what creates addictions. It sends out urges to breathe, to drink, to eat (in normal amounts) But if you have something, such as alchohol regulary, or you binge eat, than it becoems an addiction because the Hpothalamus believes that it is vital for survival, and creates neural pathways, which stimulates the urges. The reason there are triggers, is because if you happen binge eat during a period of time when you are stressed, because you're going to dinner with your parents in a restraunt(for example), than your Hypothalamus will believe that you need to binge eat in stressful situations, in restruatants, and with your parents, and will create urges when you encounter similiar situations. Your brain creates habits, and the more you do something, the stronger the neural pathway gets, and the stronger the addiction is. Hypothalamus will create urges, but your frontal lobe decides whether you follow it. That's why the hypothalamus is the lowerbrain, that is why it's called the animal brain, and your frontal lobe is the higer, human brain, because it controls conscious choices, rather than instincts. Also, the brain adapts, it strengthens the neural pathways that are used a lot, and weakens, and eventually destroys the ones the aren't used. That's why you get better at things with practice, but get worse without practice. So, if you don't follow the urges, the neural pathway weakens, and eventuall is destroyed and the urges will stop. The whole idea is not to avoid urges, because they're instinct, but understand that they are meaningless, and nothing more than habit, and that allows you to get over it.
Basically, to not binge, you have to detach yourself from your uges. Don't conntect with them emotionally. Your urges will say something like 'you are all alone, why not turn to food' or 'weight loss is so hard, just give up', which sounds stupid if you remain detached and think about it logically, but if you connect with it emotionally, you get into that 'poor me' mindset, and that is when you are likely to binge. Don't fight the urges, just listen to them, and accept that they will come every now and again, but it will always be up to you to act on them. So far i've been binge free for 9 days with this knowledge, usually i can't go more than 30 -
The thing that has always helped me out is a phrase I always see floating around the forums. "If you are falling down a flight of stairs you would catch yourself not just let yourself fall all the way down."0
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You can read brain over binge, that has helped me and i have BED.
Basicaly it says this;
The higher brain is like the frontal lobe, which as you know, our frontal lobe is significantly larger than that of animals. It's what allows us to interpret message from other part of a brains and choose either to ignore them, ro act on it. It controls our movements, and is where we think and it is the 'I' of the brain. It's the part that you would consider you. The higer self if you will. The lower brain is the Hypothalamus, which controls hormonal secretions from the Pituitary gland. It produces all the animal instincts, like desire for sexual reproduction, eating, drinking, growth, maternial instinct, and is involved in the aspects of your behaviour. It also contains your biological clock. It is what creates addictions. It sends out urges to breathe, to drink, to eat (in normal amounts) But if you have something, such as alchohol regulary, or you binge eat, than it becoems an addiction because the Hpothalamus believes that it is vital for survival, and creates neural pathways, which stimulates the urges. The reason there are triggers, is because if you happen binge eat during a period of time when you are stressed, because you're going to dinner with your parents in a restraunt(for example), than your Hypothalamus will believe that you need to binge eat in stressful situations, in restruatants, and with your parents, and will create urges when you encounter similiar situations. Your brain creates habits, and the more you do something, the stronger the neural pathway gets, and the stronger the addiction is. Hypothalamus will create urges, but your frontal lobe decides whether you follow it. That's why the hypothalamus is the lowerbrain, that is why it's called the animal brain, and your frontal lobe is the higer, human brain, because it controls conscious choices, rather than instincts. Also, the brain adapts, it strengthens the neural pathways that are used a lot, and weakens, and eventually destroys the ones the aren't used. That's why you get better at things with practice, but get worse without practice. So, if you don't follow the urges, the neural pathway weakens, and eventuall is destroyed and the urges will stop. The whole idea is not to avoid urges, because they're instinct, but understand that they are meaningless, and nothing more than habit, and that allows you to get over it.
Basically, to not binge, you have to detach yourself from your uges. Don't conntect with them emotionally. Your urges will say something like 'you are all alone, why not turn to food' or 'weight loss is so hard, just give up', which sounds stupid if you remain detached and think about it logically, but if you connect with it emotionally, you get into that 'poor me' mindset, and that is when you are likely to binge. Don't fight the urges, just listen to them, and accept that they will come every now and again, but it will always be up to you to act on them. So far i've been binge free for 9 days with this knowledge, usually i can't go more than 30 -
Don't hate yourself, we all have the same problem. Don't wait until tomorrow to get back on track. This is a new minute and we start from here.
One thing I do so that I don't eat my calories all at once is I plan the day. I use to say "what am I hungry for?" and I use to do myself in. Right now for me boring is safe. I eat rolled oats with peanut butter for breakfast, yogurt for morning snack, string cheese for second morning snack, ham and tomato sandwich for lunch, protein bar for afternoon snack, chicken and salad for dinner, and cereal for late night snack. I know exactly what my calories, fat, carbs and protein are. I don't have to stress about when I will eat and if I can get through the day with out going over. If I'm going to go out for dinner, I know where I am going and I adjust the day around what I will be eating. No suprises.
Call me boring, but I got to 314 by eating what I felt like at the moment and eating moment by moment. I am down to 200 by planning ahead.0 -
I have the same issue! Your not alone.0
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thanks all for taking time to reach out to me. All the suggestions are great. It made me realize even more how important it is to reach out instead of isolate(which i am an expert at). I just put it all out there in my food diary instead of just pretending it never happened. I faced it and i am looking forward to a better day tomorrow0
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What a great thread! I have the same issues that Dennis is describing, especially the tendency to isolate myself. MFP has been a great tool to keep me accountable and has definitely made the difference this time around between success and failure.
Something that has helped me recently is what someone said here on MFP. (wish I could remember who it was). They said 'You didn't lose the weight in a day and you won't gain it back with one bad choice, meal, day, etc.' Thinking of this kind of snaps me out of my 'all or nothing' mentality and makes me realize that while I did mess up, it isn't the dire situation I imagine it to be and if I get ahold of myself and get back on track, everything will be ok. I don't need to be perfect, just do the best I can. The occasional slips or unavoidable situations we all find ourselves in should be expected, but they are not catastrophic. I have found that if I get right back at it, the damage can be minimized and it is much easier for me to continue on, where in the past I would feel like a failure and give in to the feelings of failure. It truly was a 'light bulb moment' for me.0 -
good luck stick with it your doing great0
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