What's that muscle?

Yogi_Carl
Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
edited January 3 in Fitness and Exercise
What's that muscle called that lies along the back of the humerus (the bingo wings muscle)? Not the triceps group but the pulling one that is engaged when doing pullups or deadlifting?

The one that hurts after doing negative pullups! It seems to be the weakest link in the chain as my biceps and lats can do far more work in pullups if it were not for this muscle which is weaker and really sore after pulling up.

I am two stone overweight - that doesn't help!
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  • bradphil87
    bradphil87 Posts: 617 Member
    Lats
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    Are you talking about the latissimus aka lats.
  • girlie100
    girlie100 Posts: 646 Member
    muscles where the bingo wing is is the triceps??

    http://faculty.lacitycollege.edu/ecklerp/Pilates/Muscles of the arms, legs and back.htm
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
    I don't think this is the Latissimus dorsi which I think is the muscle which sweeps down the back. It connects between just under the armpit and just above the elbow and is a pulling muscle.

    If you strike the classic double bicep contraction pose it would be the one opposite the bicep.

    If I knew how to post a picture into a posting, I could show you.
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    Want some stronger lats?

    Rows - Yates, Kroc, Bent over, Pendlay, T-bar, etc
    Pull ups - Negatives, Wide Grip, Type Writers, Muscle ups, etc
    Deadlifts - Snatch Grip, Deficit Pulls, etc
    Olympic Lifts - Snatch, Power Snatch, Heavy High Pills, Snatch Balance, Snatch Grip Military Press
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    OH its the tricep, ignore the above then
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    With out getting into hair splitting your humerus is surrounded by two muscles, bicep and triceps. Bi is a pulling muscle, Tri is a pusher.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    You should try some yoga to help you improve your pull-up strength
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
    muscles where the bingo wing is is the triceps??

    http://faculty.lacitycollege.edu/ecklerp/Pilates/Muscles of the arms, legs and back.htm

    Not triceps - they are pushing muscles, not pulling.

    I am thinking Brachialis it sits the opposite side of the Humerus and both are involved in pulling movements.

    I make it the Intercosto brachial (T2) see link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gray812and814.PNG

    What I do know is it is real sore after pullups - not so much after Chins as the Bicep helps more in those.
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    Not triceps - they are pushing muscles, not pulling.

    I am thinking Brachialis it sits the opposite side of the Humerus and both are involved in pulling movements.

    Well there you go, you've found your bicep muscle
  • girlie100
    girlie100 Posts: 646 Member
    i think the brachialis is where the elbow is? confused by when you say bingo wing??
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    ^ Yeah we saw the wing part and all though oh that is the lat.
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
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  • girlie100
    girlie100 Posts: 646 Member
    http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/skeletal_muscle_groups.html

    theres all the muscles, pick one from there, lol
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/skeletal_muscle_groups.html

    theres all the muscles, pick one from there, lol

    Quads! I choose you!

    Use your tear drop attack!

    Its super effective!
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
    DavPul - we both know Yoga does very little to improve pullup strength - even in the squat rack!

    and - your knew profile pic - are congratulations in order?
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    DavPul - we both know Yoga does very little to improve pullup strength - even in the squat rack!

    Lol i was wondering if someone was going to call him out on that one...
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
    http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/skeletal_muscle_groups.html

    theres all the muscles, pick one from there, lol

    Thanks - the muscle is there but not tabelled.

    (edit - spelling)
  • girlie100
    girlie100 Posts: 646 Member
    http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/skeletal_muscle_groups.html

    theres all the muscles, pick one from there, lol

    Thanks - the muscle is there but not tabelled.

    (edit - spelling)

    Damn!
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    Well, whatever muscle it is, just keep doing the negatives and it will get stronger over time. I think this is the best method for getting good at pull ups when you can't do them. As you lose weight you'll find that they're easier as well. This is a pure strength to weight ratio exercise. That's why skinny kids can crank these things out.

    Don't give up.
  • girlie100
    girlie100 Posts: 646 Member
    Well, whatever muscle it is, just keep doing the negatives and it will get stronger over time. I think this is the best method for getting good at pull ups when you can't do them. As you lose weight you'll find that they're easier as well. This is a pure strength to weight ratio exercise. That's why skinny kids can crank these things out.

    Don't give up.

    Agree :smile:
    damn you iWaffle, your pic has made me hungry! lol
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
    ^ Yeah we saw the wing part and all though oh that is the lat.

    Is the lat all the way from the lumbar region all the way up through the armpit to along the back of each arm then?

    Bingo wings - its the bit where if you turn your right arm palm up straight out and bring your left arm across your front palm up - its the bit you cup in your left hand. The triceps will be out to the outer side and the muscle I am talking about will be in your left palm.

    Do a few pullups and then feel the back of your upper arms - that one! :bigsmile:
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    DavPul - we both know Yoga does very little to improve pullup strength - even in the squat rack!

    and - your knew profile pic - are congratulations in order?

    Old pic, Throwback Thursday photo.

    But come to think of it, I don't remember you calling me 5 years ago when she was born, so I shall accept your belated congrats
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    DavPul - we both know Yoga does very little to improve pullup strength - even in the squat rack!

    Lol i was wondering if someone was going to call him out on that one...

    inside joke. and before you ask Plates, yes, I also wear gloves when I do my yoga
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
    Well, whatever muscle it is, just keep doing the negatives and it will get stronger over time. I think this is the best method for getting good at pull ups when you can't do them. As you lose weight you'll find that they're easier as well. This is a pure strength to weight ratio exercise. That's why skinny kids can crank these things out.

    Don't give up.

    Agree :smile:
    damn you iWaffle, your pic has made me hungry! lol

    Thanks everyone - great advice iWaffle, I'll keep working on it and yes, its high strength to weight ratio I am working towards. Did I mention I do Yoga? :happy:

    Definitely in the mood for Waffles now but only 500 calories to go and that won't help my pullups!
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    Bingo wings - its the bit where if you turn your right arm palm up straight out and bring your left arm across your front palm up - its the bit you cup in your left hand. The triceps will be out to the outer side and the muscle I am talking about will be in your left palm.

    The tricep is composed of 3 muscles that take up pretty much the entire underside of your arm. It isn't just the outer side of your arm. It probably accounts for 2/3 of your arm size. I'm guessing that you're talking about that.
  • rmhand
    rmhand Posts: 1,067 Member
    My guess is: TRAPEZIUS
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
    Bingo wings - its the bit where if you turn your right arm palm up straight out and bring your left arm across your front palm up - its the bit you cup in your left hand. The triceps will be out to the outer side and the muscle I am talking about will be in your left palm.

    The tricep is composed of 3 muscles that take up pretty much the entire underside of your arm. It isn't just the outer side of your arm. It probably accounts for 2/3 of your arm size. I'm guessing that you're talking about that.

    I know what you mean, but are the triceps not only pushing muscles? The muscle I am talking about is contracting only when I pull up (not when I do bicpe curls though). It runs along the underside of the upper arm.
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
    My guess is: TRAPEZIUS

    nope - trapezius runs across the yoke of the shoulders. The muscle I mean runs along the underside of the upper arm and is a pulling muscle.

    edit: (just had a thought) when you do Preacher Curls, it is the muscle at the back of your upper arm that rests on the preacher pad. Any good?

    edit2: I've just posted a photo showing the muscle I mean if it helps and I've opened my profile to Public.
  • rmhand
    rmhand Posts: 1,067 Member
    edit2: I've just posted a photo showing the muscle I mean if it helps and I've opened my profile to Public.

    That is a tricep. I've heard of bicep push-ups (which didn't make since to me).
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