Is this myth about eating late at night true....

What are people's thoughts on this?..Just wondering I was at my friends yesterday who is not really weight conciouss but she's always prone to eating late in the evening, now I know some people have to depending on their work and everything but is it effectively bad in the long run if you do sit down round 9 o'clock and have a bit of toast and tea....would I be better off without it?
what are people's opinions on this? :)
«13

Replies

  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Given equal calorie intakes in both scenarios it is entirely false.
  • rachelilb
    rachelilb Posts: 179 Member
    I munch at night and have been doing so the entire time. I have lost 87 pounds so it has not affected me.
  • monicalosesweight
    monicalosesweight Posts: 1,173 Member
    There are tons of people who will tell you it isn't true. There are people who say there's a chemical process that starts late at night and that you could affect your weight loss.

    I would say that you won't find tons of people coming out and saying one or the other only because this has been a battle in the past over whose right.

    I say - do what's right for you - don't eat over your calories and you should still lose weight. I suspect a tea and slice of bread won't hurt anyone that badly. The big part is eating the amount of calories you need, eating right and not giving up and always documenting what you're really eating. You have to be truthful about that or you're just destroying any chance you have of losing weight.
  • CMarshek
    CMarshek Posts: 7 Member
    I've been a trainer for 11 years. Weightloss is basic math. Eat whenever you want. Evenly space your calories for the sake of your energy level. Nighttime eating is not negative. Just don't let the bulk of your calories land there.
  • I think that you can eat whenever you want, as long as you stick to your calorie goals for the day, and still lose weight. :)
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    I typically have my 800-1000+ calorie dinner around 7-8pm, then a glass of chocolate milk at bedtime about two hours later. Never hurt my progress.
  • Lyssa62
    Lyssa62 Posts: 930 Member
    i have popcorn and a vita cake or 1/2 bagel every night at 9:30 pm and try to get to bed by midnight -- as of yesterday lost 28 lbs. I'm calling BS on that theory.


    that being said -- I would tend to agree it's probably better on your digestive system to stop eating maybe 2 hours before bed..but I don't think it has anything to do with stalling weight loss. JMO
  • JenniBaby85
    JenniBaby85 Posts: 855 Member
    I think that a calorie is still a calorie no matter what time you eat it, and should be treated that way :tongue:
  • I don't normally have my evening meal until 8-8.30pm and haven't found any negative effects from it so far!
  • Flixie00
    Flixie00 Posts: 1,195 Member
    I'm another late night eater. Only way I can fit in 2 hour gym work outs and a full time job.
  • FitForLife81
    FitForLife81 Posts: 372 Member
    I do most of my eating at night so it is NOT true at all!!!!
  • MrDelts
    MrDelts Posts: 209 Member
    I have one golden rule for my clients when it comes to eating late... Do not eat starchy or sugary carbs. Only lean sources of protein and veggies should be eaten late in the day if fat burning is the goal. Another rule of thumb... If you're awake, you should be eating every 3 hrs, including late night, right up until the minute you go to bed. So eat away.
  • alzaman5925
    alzaman5925 Posts: 64 Member
    I don't eat late at night because when I do, I wake up in the morning feeling really bloated, and it makes me feel that I'm not looking after my food intake properly. But I'm sure that even if I eat late yet keep to my daily calorie goal, after a week I will still have lost the projected amount of weight expected anyway. I suppose also that people who eat late a night may do so from cravings (unless this is just a routine meal), and so every evening they're just piling on extra calories causing them to put on weight over time... perhaps that's where the myth comes from.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I have one golden rule for my clients when it comes to eating late... Do not eat starchy or sugary carbs. Only lean sources of protein and veggies should be eaten late in the day if fat burning is the goal. Another rule of thumb... If you're awake, you should be eating every 3 hrs, including late night, right up until the minute you go to bed. So eat away.

    What's the rationale behind that?
  • AmberJo1984
    AmberJo1984 Posts: 1,067 Member
    I try to eat my main meal before 6:00. Sometimes I don't succeed, though... and it's more like 8:00. However, I almost always have a late night snack of peanut butter and milk. It does not seem that it has not effected my weight loss one bit.
  • AmberJo1984
    AmberJo1984 Posts: 1,067 Member
    I think that a calorie is still a calorie no matter what time you eat it, and should be treated that way :tongue:

    Good point, Jen. :happy:
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    To go into a bit of detail about this idea:


    Change in fat stores is the difference between acute fat storage and acute fat oxidation. You're essentially going through periods of fat storage and fat oxidation and the difference between the two determines how much fat you gain or lose. If fat oxidation exceeds fat storage, you lose fat. If fat storage exceeds fat oxidation, you gain fat. Looking at this net difference over the course of several weeks or months is what matters. Looking at what happens overnight, or during a few hours, is very misleading and often results in people making decisions for themselves or their clients that simply isn't necessary.


    As it pertains to eating during the day or night, looking at the endpoints for purposes example:


    Suppose you eat all your calories during the day and lets further suppose that most of your intake is in the AM and none of it at night. In this example, you are blunting fat oxidation during the day and increasing fat storage during the day. You eat nothing before bed so fat storage goes down and fat oxidation goes up.


    Suppose you eat all of your calories at night: Fat storage goes up while you sleep because you've got a gut full of food. Fat oxidation drops. However, during the day (prior to you eating all your food at night) fat oxidation goes up (you're fasted) and fat storage goes down.


    The differences in fat loss or fat storage between these two scenarios will be dictated by energy balance (calories in vs calories out).


    I would suggest that people choose whatever method gives them the best:


    1) Dietary adherence (personal preference)

    2) Gym performance


    The above two factors matter a GREAT deal.


    But the other stuff, like "Oh no I'm eating a carb and then not burning off, I'll get fat!" is complete nonsense and you should ignore it.
  • ellenyates
    ellenyates Posts: 13 Member
    I have been a personal trainer and in the fitness field for over 30 years in addition to having a degree in the field. With that being said, when someone tells me that they don't eat past 6 pm, I don't buy it. Calories in have to be equal to calories out no matter what time you eat them.
    The problem with consuming them all at night is that you don't have time to use them and take advantage of them. You go throughout the day without any energy (you may feel like you have it but you could have more if you ate during the day) . Also, if you eat too many calories at once, then your body stores more as fat as it cannot handle digesting all of those calories at once.

    Finally, small meals spread throughout the day keep your metabolic rate going. If you eat the majority at night and little during the day, over time your body feels that it is in starvation mode. Hence, your metabolic rate lowers to conserve food energy that you do have in your body.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Ellen Yates
  • JenniBaby85
    JenniBaby85 Posts: 855 Member
    To go into a bit of detail about this idea:


    Change in fat stores is the difference between acute fat storage and acute fat oxidation. You're essentially going through periods of fat storage and fat oxidation and the difference between the two determines how much fat you gain or lose. If fat oxidation exceeds fat storage, you lose fat. If fat storage exceeds fat oxidation, you gain fat. Looking at this net difference over the course of several weeks or months is what matters. Looking at what happens overnight, or during a few hours, is very misleading and often results in people making decisions for themselves or their clients that simply isn't necessary.


    As it pertains to eating during the day or night, looking at the endpoints for purposes example:


    Suppose you eat all your calories during the day and lets further suppose that most of your intake is in the AM and none of it at night. In this example, you are blunting fat oxidation during the day and increasing fat storage during the day. You eat nothing before bed so fat storage goes down and fat oxidation goes up.


    Suppose you eat all of your calories at night: Fat storage goes up while you sleep because you've got a gut full of food. Fat oxidation drops. However, during the day (prior to you eating all your food at night) fat oxidation goes up (you're fasted) and fat storage goes down.


    The differences in fat loss or fat storage between these two scenarios will be dictated by energy balance (calories in vs calories out).


    I would suggest that people choose whatever method gives them the best:


    1) Dietary adherence (personal preference)

    2) Gym performance


    The above two factors matter a GREAT deal.


    But the other stuff, like "Oh no I'm eating a carb and then not burning off, I'll get fat!" is complete nonsense and you should ignore it.

    Wow. Thanks for the info!
  • shovav91
    shovav91 Posts: 2,335 Member
    I probably eat a 3-400 calorie "snack" every night about a half hour before bed- Yeah, I'm really holding onto that belly fat!! =/

    Myth. Pre-bedtime snacks are the greatest. :D
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I have been a personal trainer and in the fitness field for over 30 years in addition to having a degree in the field. With that being said, when someone tells me that they don't eat past 6 pm, I don't buy it. Calories in have to be equal to calories out no matter what time you eat them.
    The problem with consuming them all at night is that you don't have time to use them and take advantage of them. You go throughout the day without any energy (you may feel like you have it but you could have more if you ate during the day) . Also, if you eat too many calories at once, then your body stores more as fat as it cannot handle digesting all of those calories at once.

    Finally, small meals spread throughout the day keep your metabolic rate going. If you eat the majority at night and little during the day, over time your body feels that it is in starvation mode. Hence, your metabolic rate lowers to conserve food energy that you do have in your body.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Ellen Yates
    ellen@n2shape.com
    N2SHAPE, Inc.
    n2shape.com


    You may benefit from the below research on meal frequency. Diet induced thermogenesis is not frequency based.


    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html
    http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat/#frequency
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
  • Lift_hard_eat_big
    Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
    I have one golden rule for my clients when it comes to eating late... Do not eat starchy or sugary carbs. Only lean sources of protein and veggies should be eaten late in the day if fat burning is the goal. Another rule of thumb... If you're awake, you should be eating every 3 hrs, including late night, right up until the minute you go to bed. So eat away.

    You couldn't be any more wrong.
  • Lift_hard_eat_big
    Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
    I have been a personal trainer and in the fitness field for over 30 years in addition to having a degree in the field. With that being said, when someone tells me that they don't eat past 6 pm, I don't buy it. Calories in have to be equal to calories out no matter what time you eat them.
    The problem with consuming them all at night is that you don't have time to use them and take advantage of them. You go throughout the day without any energy (you may feel like you have it but you could have more if you ate during the day) . Also, if you eat too many calories at once, then your body stores more as fat as it cannot handle digesting all of those calories at once.

    Finally, small meals spread throughout the day keep your metabolic rate going. If you eat the majority at night and little during the day, over time your body feels that it is in starvation mode. Hence, your metabolic rate lowers to conserve food energy that you do have in your body.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Ellen Yates
    ellen@n2shape.com
    N2SHAPE, Inc.
    n2shape.com


    You may benefit from the below research on meal frequency. Diet induced thermogenesis is not frequency based.


    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html
    http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat/#frequency
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html

    Thanks Sidesteel. Trumping bro science with actual science!
  • WendySue67
    WendySue67 Posts: 17 Member
    I don't eat two hours before going to bed because if I do I wake up in the morning with a super foul disgusting taste in my mouth. It's disgusting...but it's the only reason.
  • Given equal calorie intakes in both scenarios it is entirely false.

    ^This.

    I eat almost all my calories at night.
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
    I have been a personal trainer and in the fitness field for over 30 years in addition to having a degree in the field. With that being said, when someone tells me that they don't eat past 6 pm, I don't buy it. Calories in have to be equal to calories out no matter what time you eat them.
    The problem with consuming them all at night is that you don't have time to use them and take advantage of them. You go throughout the day without any energy (you may feel like you have it but you could have more if you ate during the day) . Also, if you eat too many calories at once, then your body stores more as fat as it cannot handle digesting all of those calories at once.

    Finally, small meals spread throughout the day keep your metabolic rate going. If you eat the majority at night and little during the day, over time your body feels that it is in starvation mode. Hence, your metabolic rate lowers to conserve food energy that you do have in your body.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Ellen Yates
    ellen@n2shape.com
    N2SHAPE, Inc.
    n2shape.com

    have you studied nutrition?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I have one golden rule for my clients when it comes to eating late... Do not eat starchy or sugary carbs. Only lean sources of protein and veggies should be eaten late in the day if fat burning is the goal. Another rule of thumb... If you're awake, you should be eating every 3 hrs, including late night, right up until the minute you go to bed. So eat away.

    Why?
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member


    Finally, small meals spread throughout the day keep your metabolic rate going. If you eat the majority at night and little during the day, over time your body feels that it is in starvation mode. Hence, your metabolic rate lowers to conserve food energy that you do have in your body.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Ellen Yates
    ellen@n2shape.com
    N2SHAPE, Inc.
    n2shape.com


    yeah,,,, no.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I have been a personal trainer and in the fitness field for over 30 years in addition to having a degree in the field. With that being said, when someone tells me that they don't eat past 6 pm, I don't buy it. Calories in have to be equal to calories out no matter what time you eat them.
    The problem with consuming them all at night is that you don't have time to use them and take advantage of them. You go throughout the day without any energy (you may feel like you have it but you could have more if you ate during the day) . Also, if you eat too many calories at once, then your body stores more as fat as it cannot handle digesting all of those calories at once.

    Finally, small meals spread throughout the day keep your metabolic rate going. If you eat the majority at night and little during the day, over time your body feels that it is in starvation mode. Hence, your metabolic rate lowers to conserve food energy that you do have in your body.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Ellen Yates
    ellen@n2shape.com
    N2SHAPE, Inc.
    n2shape.com

    This is just wrong.

    Also, personal trainers generally have very little education in nutrition. Did you study nutrition at all?
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    I have been a personal trainer and in the fitness field for over 30 years in addition to having a degree in the field. With that being said, when someone tells me that they don't eat past 6 pm, I don't buy it. Calories in have to be equal to calories out no matter what time you eat them.
    The problem with consuming them all at night is that you don't have time to use them and take advantage of them. You go throughout the day without any energy (you may feel like you have it but you could have more if you ate during the day) . Also, if you eat too many calories at once, then your body stores more as fat as it cannot handle digesting all of those calories at once.

    Finally, small meals spread throughout the day keep your metabolic rate going. If you eat the majority at night and little during the day, over time your body feels that it is in starvation mode. Hence, your metabolic rate lowers to conserve food energy that you do have in your body.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Ellen Yates
    ellen@n2shape.com
    N2SHAPE, Inc.
    n2shape.com

    Did you had a tall glass of brotein with that bro-science, bro?