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exersize and storing fat.

jojorocksforeva
jojorocksforeva Posts: 303 Member
Okay who beilves in the if you eat to little and exercise to much than you will mysteriously hold on to the fat forever i did not know it worked like this!!! really who believes in it!!


Some people would call it the starvation mode scary huh!! lol

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  • realme56
    realme56 Posts: 1,093 Member
    I think survival mode vs starvation is a better term. I do believe that every time I have lost weight I have a higher "set point" than I did the last time. I used to be able to easily hit 160, then I couldn't get below 170, now I cannot seem to get into the 170's... I have been circling the 179-183 area for months now. I am learning to be happy with where I am and continue to eat wisely hoping that someday by inside fat girl will let go of these last 10# (or more).
    Fat cells like to be fed, I would love to do some skin removal surgery which would get rid of those cells too but it is so expensive!!
  • I don't have to beleive in it, when I first lost weight (Previous to gaining fat had always been fit all my life), I lost 32kg, and whilst I had my top two abdominals showing, I basically looked the same from about 88kg to 75kg, just a smaller version. It certainly wasn't that "Ripped" physique that I had imagined I would get.

    This was due to too much cardio (I was boxing at the time) and poor nutrition. I'm sure if I kept going down I'd eventually lose the fat, but who knows what weight I would have needed to get to? And at 6ft 1, even being 75kg was a bit to small for me.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Okay who beilves in the if you eat to little and exercise to much than you will mysteriously hold on to the fat forever i did not know it worked like this!!! really who believes in it!!

    Some people would call it the starvation mode scary huh!! lol

    No.

    But, you can workout and diet in such a way as to increase your chances of burning muscle for glucose conversion to burn along with the fat.

    Less muscle and LBM, lower metabolism. Less deficit. Easier to eat over maintenance level. Any surplus is stored as fat. if glucose is topped off.

    Pretty simple to accomplish actually, many of us have accidentally (while knowing it could happen just not watching the details).

    Work out at about maximum cardio intensity as you can for 60 min, 5 days in a row with.

    Workouts at that level will be burning at least 80% of the calories as carbs. So a 600 cal workout burn is 480 cal's worth of carbs burned, besides rest of the day and other activity.

    Now, eat only about 120 g, or that same 480 calories worth of carbs before the next workout. Or even better, less. You never top of muscle glucose stores.

    Next day, you burn through what the liver has and dip into the muscle stores again, and again don't replenish them with your diet because of eating too little.

    By the 4 or 5th day, you have reached what marathoner's call "the wall" - where you have run out of muscle glucose stores, and only way to get more to burn with the fat, is to breakdown muscle protein for conversion to glucose.
    Muscle only provides 600 cal's worth of energy that way.
    So in 1 day you could easily burn almost a lb of muscle away. And the other LBM that goes with it.

    You lost weight for sure, but mostly non-fat.

    And now with slower metabolism, and at this point your metabolism has probably slowed down anyway from the stress, it means your deficit isn't as big, and any binges or big meals are surplus.

    So while the way you state it doesn't happen, many people will see these effects and think that is what happened.
    They've been working out really hard for many weeks, never hitting their eating goal and never eating back exercise calories, and they can't seem to lose weight, and only binge 1 or 2 times a week, "to keep the metabolism going".
  • I always work out fasted and I'm technically a few pounds underweight. It's seemed to work for me.
  • Enny2405
    Enny2405 Posts: 97 Member
    There is a book called The Gabrielle Method by John Gabrielle- it explains a lot about how your body interpets stress - putting it into survival mode and storing food as energy instead of burning it. Maybe you might find it interesting?
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