Cardio Bunny? Stop It – Stop It Now!

Sat 11/24/12 09:47 AM
Why are we debating anything written by an OP who starts his post with the phrase "For my women"... ?

Is that the sound of knuckles dragging that I hear?
Edited by meerkat70 on Sat 11/24/12 09:47 AM

Hahahaha!:laugh:

I'm sure 95% of the men out there would want to be ripped than run a mile. Running a mile is cool, but offers little real world benefits. Being ripped with muscles offers a TON of real world benefit as well as at least SOME of the cardiovascular and most if not all of the health effects.

Really?? No "Real World Benifits"? Try telling that to the policeman who has to run down a criminal, or the military person who has to run for cover, or the firefighter running into a burning building to save a life. I'm sure those guys are more willing to be able to run that mile than to have a 6 pack anyday.

Yeah, this.

Being ripped has literally zero real world benefit. Being strong and being fit on the other hand...
Why do so many body recomp enthusiasts believe that everyone has the same goals as them?

I would like to have a visible six-pack, but I'm not going to pretend like it would benefit me in any real way.
On the other hand, I recently learned that I can move my body over 20 miles in a morning.

Oh, this debate is getting old and silly. I want to lose weight, to be more fit, to be stronger, to have more endurance, so I can do all sorts of things.
* I love lifting heavy because I do like getting stronger so I can do more and the way it is helping shape my body.
* I also love riding my bike for a century (or 20, 40, 60 miles, whatever). Why? Because it's hella fun! And no one can convince me that going uphills isn't strengthening those muscles either. I think lifting weights compliments and improves my cycling.
* I don't love running yet but I'm still out there doing it because I do want to be able to run if I need to in an emergency situation or just because it feels good. I would love to be walking on the beach and break out into a run because it feels joyous. I'm getting there. I do think lifting weights compliments and improves my running, too.
* I love hiking for hours, up and down steep hills, carrying a pack without it hurting or feeling like it's weighing me down. And you need both strength and cardio fitness to do this so, yeah, cardio has some real world applications, OP. And, yeah, lifting helps with this, too.
* I love HIIT. Sometimes I do a longer 30-minute session with HIIT on an elliptical or treadmill. Sometimes, I just do it a few times as part of a warm-up before lifting. Sometimes I do it in a planned/timed way at the track doing sprints and/or stairs on the bleachers. Sometimes I do it fartlek-style, just random, while out running. It's all good.
* I also love to do an occasional cardio-kickboxing class, or zumba, or spinning, and you can't keep me away from my weekly bootcamp class.

The point is, fitness is achieved a number of different ways. I get bored with too much routine so I am constantly doing different things. If I am doing a lot of cardio (running, cycling, hiking, HIIT), I might not make it to the gym for a week or two to do any heavy lifting. But then I might have a week or two where I do mostly heavy lifting with just a bit of cardio. I never lose any real strength and can usually jump right back into the weight/reps I was previously doing even after a couple weeks off from the gym. The same with jumping back into cardio.

As long as you're doing something, it's all good. And I enjoy mixing it up because it's more fun that way. All this from a still overweight, but working on it, post-menopausal woman who was a couch potato for about 20 years until summer of 2011. Oh, well...to each their own.

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my gym is weird. there's also a bunch of emaciated looking men folk who live on cardio machines

My gym is weird too. There are a bunch of men with pregnant bellies who live in the weight room.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You know, plenty of men only engage in cardio-only exercise, too. I know guys who only exercise is running or racquetball or cycling.

Just sayin'

You are correct!

Or guys who only do resistance...sure you are ripped but can you run a mile? Lol

I'm sure 95% of the men out there would want to be ripped than run a mile. Running a mile is cool, but offers little real world benefits. Being ripped with muscles offers a TON of real world benefit as well as at least SOME of the cardiovascular and most if not all of the health effects.

I'm a runner and couldn't give a sun-dried dingleberry about being ''ripped'...5%ers for life.

This has been entertaining reading. We all know what works best for ourselves depending on where we are in our weight loss or health and well being journey. And regardless of what other people preach, we will continue doing what works. I have learned many things in the process of bettering my health. The main one being to "take everything with a grain of salt" and carry on doing what is giving me the results I need. Later on I will have to reassess what exercise I do to get what I want. No there yet so no probs huh. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

If a man can't run a mile they are not in shape or healthy no matter how many muscles they have..in my opinion.

Why are we debating anything written by an OP who starts his post with the phrase "For my women"... ?

Is that the sound of knuckles dragging that I hear?

Not sure I follow what point your are trying to make with this comment? :huh:

No, I'm sure you don't, lovely.

:-)

LOL So it is true...a picture is worth a 1000 words!!! lol

Why are we debating anything written by an OP who starts his post with the phrase "For my women"... ?

Is that the sound of knuckles dragging that I hear?

Not sure I follow what point your are trying to make with this comment? :huh:

No, I'm sure you don't, lovely.

:-)

And your thinly veiled insults do? Okay, whatever.

Don't be pompous. I was asking a question because I honestly don't know why you would take exception to what I wrote.

The article was directed toward women, written by a woman. Is that hard for YOU to comprehend?

While I understand there are men who clearly fit into the same categories as outlined in the article, I think you are spending too much time over-analyzing my wording. Or perhaps you are guilty of it yourself?? That's probably the real issue.

You're on a loser there sunshine. She's an academic so I'd imagine the comprehension is just fine, and a lifter who enjoys cardio also. Just so happens she's not one for meat heads though, I think that's the real issue here.

Why are we debating anything written by an OP who starts his post with the phrase "For my women"... ?

Is that the sound of knuckles dragging that I hear?

Not sure I follow what point your are trying to make with this comment? :huh:

No, I'm sure you don't, lovely.

:-)

And your thinly veiled insults do? Okay, whatever.

Don't be pompous. I was asking a question because I honestly don't know why you would take exception to what I wrote.

The article was directed toward women, written by a woman. Is that hard for YOU to comprehend?

While I understand there are men who clearly fit into the same categories as outlined in the article, I think you are spending too much time over-analyzing my wording. Or perhaps you are guilty of it yourself?? That's probably the real issue.

I can't speak for her, but this is what I interpret from her post:

1. OP believes all women belong to and should listen to him.
2. Only women do cardio.
3. Women do not use any type of strength training workout.

By saying "my women", you're coming across as demeaning and Neanderthalic (who are stereotyped as dragging their knuckles because they barely stood upright).

If I can defend the OP, I'm sure he refers to the number of 'online' females he owns when he says ' my women'. Many men who lack female company in the ''off line '' world amass multiple females in their 'virtual' life..

If this is not the case, then we shouldn't tolerate people traffickers on MFP forums.

Funny, I took "my women" as meaning the women he is MFP friends with.

My exercise routine has always been cardio heavy, but mostly because I like music, dance and endorphins. Turbokick and spin classes are my current loves. I include strength and resistance training for aesthetic purposes.