Is this routine good enough to burn fat

Hi! I'm 5'3 and 104 pounds. I'm what you'd call skinny fat. :( My thighs (apparently) are small, 19". My waist is 26" (because of some extra fat), and my hips are..30"? Idk I think I'm pear-shaped. I have been doing Jillian Michaels' Ripped in 30. At the end of the 4th week, NO RESULTS. I'm repeating it and I'm on the 2nd week. My body is showing some small changes. But, I don't want to wait soo long for visible results :( Can I run for 30 min. in the morning on an empty stomach? It's not like I have time to eat, then wait 1 hr to workout. Arghh so frustrating! It's so weird because everywhere I am getting stronger, like my thighs, core, arms, etc. I run so much faster and harder now, too. But I don't see a change in my body!! Just small ones...
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  • OnionMomma
    OnionMomma Posts: 938 Member
    I think you need to lift instead of run. Move to weights along with your cardio.
  • jade_131
    jade_131 Posts: 59 Member
    I think you need to lift instead of run. Move to weights along with your cardio.

    There are weights included in the DVD. It's 3 minutes of strength, 2 minutes of cardio, and 1 minute of abs.
  • erin4609
    erin4609 Posts: 131 Member
    Sometimes there is muscle tone there it's just covered in fat. So you do toning work(strength training, abs, etc) and cardio to get rid of the fat layer. Right now, I am alternating strength training days with cardio days. But find what works best for you :)

    Also, a week isn't a very long time. Stick with it!
  • jade_131
    jade_131 Posts: 59 Member
    Sometimes there is muscle tone there it's just covered in fat. So you do toning work(strength training, abs, etc) and cardio to get rid of the fat layer. Right now, I am alternating strength training days with cardio days. But find what works best for you :)

    Also, a week isn't a very long time. Stick with it!

    ?? I've been doing this for 5 weeks....
  • OnionMomma
    OnionMomma Posts: 938 Member
    I think you need to lift instead of run. Move to weights along with your cardio.

    There are weights included in the DVD. It's 3 minutes of strength, 2 minutes of cardio, and 1 minute of abs.

    Yes I understand that but, what SIZE weights are you using?

    I think I meant to DROP what you are currently doing and head to a gym and lift like a man.

    Use big weights. Get in there with the big boys and lift heavy or at least as heavy as you can to make it to muscle failure.

    You will get much better results.

    EAT that at 5'3'' and 104 lbs, you are underweight anyways. I'm 5'3'' and my Dr wants me to get to 120. That is a LOW end for me. He will be happy if I hit 130.

    Have you seen your DR yet to his his/her take on your goals?
  • jade_131
    jade_131 Posts: 59 Member
    I think you need to lift instead of run. Move to weights along with your cardio.

    There are weights included in the DVD. It's 3 minutes of strength, 2 minutes of cardio, and 1 minute of abs.

    Yes I understand that but, what SIZE weights are you using?

    I think I meant to DROP what you are currently doing and head to a gym and lift like a man.

    Use big weights. Get in there with the big boys and lift heavy or at least as heavy as you can to make it to muscle failure.

    You will get much better results.

    EAT that at 5'3'' and 104 lbs, you are underweight anyways. I'm 5'3'' and my Dr wants me to get to 120. That is a LOW end for me. He will be happy if I hit 130.

    Have you seen your DR yet to his his/her take on your goals?

    I just want to get rid of some fat..I'm not going to a doctor for it, lol
    I don't have money for the gym =( I'm just using some 5 pound dumbbells for the DVD. My arms do shake when I moved from 3 lb to 5 lb. It's harder for me, especially with the sumo squats with raises. Also the lunges with bicep extensions. My arms shake really bad :P
  • aliveandfree22
    aliveandfree22 Posts: 12 Member
    I'm not quite as small as you, I'm 5'4" & 115, but I'm in the same boat...with the Ripped in 30 DVD and everything!!!
    SO frustrating. I've seen a lot of women on here who start lifting heavy weights and see a big difference.
    Maybe a rec center would be cheaper??
    I wish ya luck!
    Let me know if you find something that works...I'll do the same :)
  • lina011
    lina011 Posts: 427 Member
    Note everyone can build muscle easily, i can thankfully. Eat more protein and give it time........ have you looked into what body type you may have, when you find out research online the exercise that may help to build a better body.
    Try jari love dvds
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    Hi! I'm 5'3 and 104 pounds. I'm what you'd call skinny fat. :( My thighs (apparently) are small, 19". My waist is 26" (because of some extra fat), and my hips are..30"? Idk I think I'm pear-shaped. I have been doing Jillian Michaels' Ripped in 30. At the end of the 4th week, NO RESULTS. I'm repeating it and I'm on the 2nd week. My body is showing some small changes. But, I don't want to wait soo long for visible results :( Can I run for 30 min. in the morning on an empty stomach? It's not like I have time to eat, then wait 1 hr to workout. Arghh so frustrating! It's so weird because everywhere I am getting stronger, like my thighs, core, arms, etc. I run so much faster and harder now, too. But I don't see a change in my body!! Just small ones...

    Yup I agree with others here you need to lift and then be patient, it takes years to build muscle especially for girls.

    Everyone needs resistance training to improve their health and bone density and this will especially improve your quality of life when you get older. But you will not gain all that much lean body mass as fast as everyone thinks. Guys of course will gain more. A DXA scan will prove the point. There are lots of stories about changing size but no one REALLY knows unless they do a DXA scan. Here's more about that --> http://bradpilon.com/weight-loss/intermittent-fasting-and-bulking/ this is true whether you IF or not. My DXA scans proved that I really didn't gain that much lean body mass yet I look very muscular for a female. I have very high bone density from over 30 years of lifting yet my lean body mass is still only 104 lbs and my RMR is still only 1380.

    I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is! Also I believe it is why most people think I look much younger than I really am. Because of this I don't have to worry about osteoporosis. If you wait until you are older and your bones start to deteriorate it's a bit too late, you can't get back what you lost, and you can only start a resistance routine that will prevent further damage.

    Cardio is good for you but it is optional. I love cardio and I still run but I didn't change my shape until I put weight lifting first and cardio 2nd. Do cardio if you enjoy it and because it's good for you but it is not good for much else.

    Here is the some of the routine I do and it has changed my shape. I did not design it. I do not do all these exercises every day, it is just a list. Every day is different, but usually every day is all body parts, only a week here and there are splits.

    The routine I do consists of weight lifting first and cardio second, but I still do cardio (mainly running). I change up everything all the time. My running is sometimes long easy runs, sometimes HIIT, sometimes shorter medium pace runs. My weight routine changes each day, each week, Circuits, Intermittent Super Sets, Fibonacci Pyramids, X-sets, Progress Venus Pyramids, and some splits, constantly changing it up, everything a variety of Strength, Hypertrophy, and Endurance.

    Legs; In addition to Deadlift's, Stiff Leg Dead Lifts, Sumo Dead Lifts and Squats I do Bulgarian Split Squats, Lunges, Reverse lunges, Curtsey lunges, Step Ups, Crossover Bench Step Ups, One legged Deadlifts (T-Bend), Lunge Matrix, Bowler Squat, One Legged Get Ups, Bower Squat and Calf Raise, Bowler Squat + Stiff Leg Deadlift, Curtsey Lunge + Dumbbell Squat, T-Bend + Y-Squat, Reverse Lunge & Step Up, Curtsey Lunge + Step Up, Y-squat, Narrow Stance Squat

    For upper body I do Standing Shoulder Press, Standing Dumbell Curls, Lying Tricep extension, Pullovers, Bent Barbell Row, Standing lateral Raise, Standing front Raise, Curl and Press, Shoulder Press + Curl, Dips, Lying Tricep Extensions + Flyes, Venus Raise (a type of snatch), Bent Row + Standing Lateral Raise, Pullovers, Pushup + Dips, Standing Dumbbell curls + Overhead Tricep Extension, Bent Lateral Raise + Pullovers, One Arm Dumbbell row, Flyes + Pushups, Seated Curl & Tate Press, Seated Curls + Overhead Tricep Extension, Pushups, Pullovers + Dips, Bent Barbell Row, Lateral Raise + Full Front Raise, Venus Raise + Dips, Standing Dumbbell curls + Lying Tricep Extension, Upright Row + Dips, Bent Barbell Row, Flat bench Press, Incline Bench Press, Bent Row Narrow, Bent Row + Kickback,

    Then some upper and lower combos; Squat and Front Raise, Step Up & Press, Step Up + Standing Shoulder Press, Squat & Press, Squat & Swing, Curtsy Lunge + Standing Shoulder Pres, T-Bend & Row, Pike Front Rais + Curtsey Lunge, Flat Bench Press + Step Up.

    Core: Bar Bell Rollouts (you can start out with Stability Ball Roll Outs), Swiss Ball Pikes (you can start out with Stability Ball Curl Ups), and planks. As you advance Swiss Ball Pike and pushup.

    I probably forgot some but you get the idea.

    BTW: You are at the very low end of your healthy weight range .. 5’3” 104 – 133 Lbs.

    No one here can tell you what to do but I would suggest not trying to lose any more weight.
  • jade_131
    jade_131 Posts: 59 Member
    Hi! I'm 5'3 and 104 pounds. I'm what you'd call skinny fat. :( My thighs (apparently) are small, 19". My waist is 26" (because of some extra fat), and my hips are..30"? Idk I think I'm pear-shaped. I have been doing Jillian Michaels' Ripped in 30. At the end of the 4th week, NO RESULTS. I'm repeating it and I'm on the 2nd week. My body is showing some small changes. But, I don't want to wait soo long for visible results :( Can I run for 30 min. in the morning on an empty stomach? It's not like I have time to eat, then wait 1 hr to workout. Arghh so frustrating! It's so weird because everywhere I am getting stronger, like my thighs, core, arms, etc. I run so much faster and harder now, too. But I don't see a change in my body!! Just small ones...

    Yup I agree with others here you need to lift and then be patient, it takes years to build muscle especially for girls.

    Everyone needs resistance training to improve their health and bone density and this will especially improve your quality of life when you get older. But you will not gain all that much lean body mass as fast as everyone thinks. Guys of course will gain more. A DXA scan will prove the point. There are lots of stories about changing size but no one REALLY knows unless they do a DXA scan. Here's more about that --> http://bradpilon.com/weight-loss/intermittent-fasting-and-bulking/ this is true whether you IF or not. My DXA scans proved that I really didn't gain that much lean body mass yet I look very muscular for a female. I have very high bone density from over 30 years of lifting yet my lean body mass is still only 104 lbs and my RMR is still only 1380.

    I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is! Also I believe it is why most people think I look much younger than I really am. Because of this I don't have to worry about osteoporosis. If you wait until you are older and your bones start to deteriorate it's a bit too late, you can't get back what you lost, and you can only start a resistance routine that will prevent further damage.

    Cardio is good for you but it is optional. I love cardio and I still run but I didn't change my shape until I put weight lifting first and cardio 2nd. Do cardio if you enjoy it and because it's good for you but it is not good for much else.

    Here is the some of the routine I do and it has changed my shape. I did not design it. I do not do all these exercises every day, it is just a list. Every day is different, but usually every day is all body parts, only a week here and there are splits.

    The routine I do consists of weight lifting first and cardio second, but I still do cardio (mainly running). I change up everything all the time. My running is sometimes long easy runs, sometimes HIIT, sometimes shorter medium pace runs. My weight routine changes each day, each week, Circuits, Intermittent Super Sets, Fibonacci Pyramids, X-sets, Progress Venus Pyramids, and some splits, constantly changing it up, everything a variety of Strength, Hypertrophy, and Endurance.

    Legs; In addition to Deadlift's, Stiff Leg Dead Lifts, Sumo Dead Lifts and Squats I do Bulgarian Split Squats, Lunges, Reverse lunges, Curtsey lunges, Step Ups, Crossover Bench Step Ups, One legged Deadlifts (T-Bend), Lunge Matrix, Bowler Squat, One Legged Get Ups, Bower Squat and Calf Raise, Bowler Squat + Stiff Leg Deadlift, Curtsey Lunge + Dumbbell Squat, T-Bend + Y-Squat, Reverse Lunge & Step Up, Curtsey Lunge + Step Up, Y-squat, Narrow Stance Squat

    For upper body I do Standing Shoulder Press, Standing Dumbell Curls, Lying Tricep extension, Pullovers, Bent Barbell Row, Standing lateral Raise, Standing front Raise, Curl and Press, Shoulder Press + Curl, Dips, Lying Tricep Extensions + Flyes, Venus Raise (a type of snatch), Bent Row + Standing Lateral Raise, Pullovers, Pushup + Dips, Standing Dumbbell curls + Overhead Tricep Extension, Bent Lateral Raise + Pullovers, One Arm Dumbbell row, Flyes + Pushups, Seated Curl & Tate Press, Seated Curls + Overhead Tricep Extension, Pushups, Pullovers + Dips, Bent Barbell Row, Lateral Raise + Full Front Raise, Venus Raise + Dips, Standing Dumbbell curls + Lying Tricep Extension, Upright Row + Dips, Bent Barbell Row, Flat bench Press, Incline Bench Press, Bent Row Narrow, Bent Row + Kickback,

    Then some upper and lower combos; Squat and Front Raise, Step Up & Press, Step Up + Standing Shoulder Press, Squat & Press, Squat & Swing, Curtsy Lunge + Standing Shoulder Pres, T-Bend & Row, Pike Front Rais + Curtsey Lunge, Flat Bench Press + Step Up.

    Core: Bar Bell Rollouts (you can start out with Stability Ball Roll Outs), Swiss Ball Pikes (you can start out with Stability Ball Curl Ups), and planks. As you advance Swiss Ball Pike and pushup.

    I probably forgot some but you get the idea.

    BTW: You are at the very low end of your healthy weight range .. 5’3” 104 – 133 Lbs.

    No one here can tell you what to do but I would suggest not trying to lose any more weight.

    I am not trying to lose weight, I am actually trying to gain muscle and lose the fat..I'm sad because the before and afters on here for Ripped in 30 are so amazing!! But it's different for me ='( Also, I don't have money for the gym!! I just have a treadmill, an elliptical, and 3 lb + 5 lb weights..
  • SabrinaJL
    SabrinaJL Posts: 1,579 Member
    I am not trying to lose weight, I am actually trying to gain muscle and lose the fat..I'm sad because the before and afters on here for Ripped in 30 are so amazing!! But it's different for me ='( Also, I don't have money for the gym!! I just have a treadmill, an elliptical, and 3 lb + 5 lb weights..

    Keep at it. It takes a lot longer to build muscle than it does to lose weight. It's not anywhere near as easy as most women seem to think it is.
  • jade_131
    jade_131 Posts: 59 Member
    is it really THAT hard for a teenage girl to lose some extra fat?! :(
  • SabrinaJL
    SabrinaJL Posts: 1,579 Member
    is it really THAT hard for a teenage girl to lose some extra fat?! :(

    Dude, you've only been doing it for 5 weeks. That's really not that long. You said at the end of your first post you're seeing small changes. That's better than no changes.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    there's a lot of talk about the routine here but very little talk about the OP's diet. If you want to lose fat the diet is what you should be asking about more than the routine
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    If you want to gain muscle and lose fat, then you need to focus on one or the other.

    Gaining new muscle tissue involves eating at a calorie surplus and lifting heavy weights.. not 3 to 5 pound girly dumbbells.

    Losing fat involves eating a deficit, while still lifting and doing some cardio.

    Pick which you want go for it.. but I can guarantee you that Jillian Michael's is not the answer.. Her DVD's are more cardio then strength based anyway.
  • darrensurrey
    darrensurrey Posts: 3,942 Member
    I am not trying to lose weight, I am actually trying to gain muscle and lose the fat.

    Glad to hear it. :smile:

    The process of this kind of positive body transformation is a long slow one. Welcome to real life.

    I say continue what you're doing as clearly what you are doing is working.
    there's a lot of talk about the routine here but very little talk about the OP's diet. If you want to lose fat the diet is what you should be asking about more than the routine

    I thought that and went straight to her diary - she's not doing some stupid low calorie nonsense as is the norm for newbies who post about not seeing the results. I do wonder if because she's eating "specialist" foods, the calories logged are bad estimates (under or over by a large margin)?
  • angiechimpanzee
    angiechimpanzee Posts: 536 Member
    Actually I can understand the OP's frustration. You're all saying that building muscle is a slow process, etc, but seriously look at her situation. She's YOUNG, and she's SKINNY already. Which means that the amount of access fat covering her muscle shouldn't be an issue. She doesn't need to lose any more weight. Plus, there are people who have way more fat on them than she does, who have amazing 30 day shred/ripped in 30/insanity before and after photos. And those are all relatively short-term programs. So it would be unusual for her NOT to see at least a tiny amount of improvement in her muscle tone. I know after just 3 weeks of doing ab workouts daily, I started to notice "ab lines" that weren't there before. 5 weeks on my leg routine and I started to get those creases in my outer thighs. And I am definitely not 106 pounds.

    I think my best advice, OP, is to focus more on the quality of your workout rather than getting through the whole video. For example, make sure your posture is PERFECT and that you're really feeling the burn hard. Even try skipping the cardio parts and focusing your energy on just the strength parts. Do it twice if you must. Also, try to keep your protein intake at 80 grams or more, I think that's pretty high for females your size & I believe it would encourage muscle growth.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Angie, your heart is in the right place but your advice is not. No one should compare their results to someone else's results. For every 10 people that post photos with noticeable results, there are 1000 people that didn't post photos because they saw no results at all. It's a selection bias issue.

    And if we're going to recommend changing up the program by a large margin, then let's dump the program entirely for a true strength training program that has worked for millions of people over the years. People are better served doing some part of an effective routine than doing extra work on an ineffective routine.
  • jellebeandesigns
    jellebeandesigns Posts: 347 Member
    Go to play it again sports and grab heavier (8 or 10 lb weights) finish what your doing than try Zwow or something on YouTube. Keep at it
  • jenifujita
    jenifujita Posts: 4 Member
    AMAZING ^^^^^ Thanks Bobbie!!
  • RobynLB
    RobynLB Posts: 617 Member
    Why is everybody on this site so pro lifting and anti cardio? Yes, if you want to lose fat, running is a great idea! It always has been! Why do you think runners are lean? A thirty minute run will burn another 300 calories per day and get your results that much faster. Because it's a short run, you can tack it onto lifting. I think you're on the right track. If you feel fine running on an empty stomach, then go for it. I like to have some carbs first, but a lot of people are find just getting up and going, whatever works for you is fine.
  • schondell
    schondell Posts: 556 Member
    You need to seriously lower your carb intake, eat lean meat and veggies for two weeks and you'll see a difference
  • ubermensch13
    ubermensch13 Posts: 824 Member
    Why is everybody on this site so pro lifting and anti cardio? Yes, if you want to lose fat, running is a great idea! It always has been! Why do you think runners are lean? A thirty minute run will burn another 300 calories per day and get your results that much faster. Because it's a short run, you can tack it onto lifting. I think you're on the right track. If you feel fine running on an empty stomach, then go for it. I like to have some carbs first, but a lot of people are find just getting up and going, whatever works for you is fine.

    I wouldn't say people are anti-cardio, they are anti-cardio only. There is good reason for this however, many people want a body that doesn't look like a marathon runner, they want a shapely one and to do that you'll need to incorporate fat loss with muscle gain/tone that you can only get through true weight training.
  • RobynLB
    RobynLB Posts: 617 Member
    Why is everybody on this site so pro lifting and anti cardio? Yes, if you want to lose fat, running is a great idea! It always has been! Why do you think runners are lean? A thirty minute run will burn another 300 calories per day and get your results that much faster. Because it's a short run, you can tack it onto lifting. I think you're on the right track. If you feel fine running on an empty stomach, then go for it. I like to have some carbs first, but a lot of people are find just getting up and going, whatever works for you is fine.

    I wouldn't say people are anti-cardio, they are anti-cardio only. There is good reason for this however, many people want a body that doesn't look like a marathon runner, they want a shapely one and to do that you'll need to incorporate fat loss with muscle gain/tone that you can only get through true weight training.

    Running 30 minutes 3 times a week is not a marathon runner routine. It's a basic hearth health routine that everybody shold be doing. Alos, true lifting is not the ONLY was to get toned. Sports training will also encourage muscle growth, strength, and tone. I box, and I am buff as hell despite not doing true weight training.
  • Josie_lifting_cats
    Josie_lifting_cats Posts: 949 Member
    If you want to gain muscle and lose fat, then you need to focus on one or the other.

    Gaining new muscle tissue involves eating at a calorie surplus and lifting heavy weights.. not 3 to 5 pound girly dumbbells.

    Losing fat involves eating a deficit, while still lifting and doing some cardio.

    Pick which you want go for it.. but I can guarantee you that Jillian Michael's is not the answer.. Her DVD's are more cardio then strength based anyway.

    Disagree. While not "heavy lifting", if you suck it up and keep increasing your weights, it's some pretty reasonable quick strength training. If you continue using 2 pound weights for months on end, likely not to help much.

    OP, consider heavier weights. Also, did you take measurements? I didn't lose more than half a pound during 30DS and Ripped, but I lost 4 pants sizes over about 3 months.

    I do agree about lifting - if you can find someone that has some weights lying around, it would be awesome. However, I'm in the same boat - I can't justify the gym (financially and time wise), so I do other things. However, for my bike training I might have to pick up some weights to toss around.
  • lauriem1966
    lauriem1966 Posts: 134 Member
    I didn't bother reading thru the whole thread, just the first few posts, so if this has been said, sorry!

    I love the 30day shred because its a great workout in a short amount of time but if you are not seeing results, you need to lift heavy. You'll see results faster. What's your protein intake like? Are you eating enough? You have to eat more, and eat more protein to build muscle. Also, you might have the type of body that is slow to build muscle...I know I do.

    Good luck!

    ETA...I checked out your diary. You need to eat less carbs and up your protein. You need to protein to build that muscle. Also...do you really need to burn more fat? You are already tiny, your focus your shift to building muscle...forget the fat burning, from your stats, you don't need it.
  • jade_131
    jade_131 Posts: 59 Member
    You need to seriously lower your carb intake, eat lean meat and veggies for two weeks and you'll see a difference

    ah, but it's not that easy when I'm asian... I don't think it's that. Most asians eat rice 3 times a day and still stay slim and fit. I can't leave me rice nooOOOOOoOoo :(
  • jade_131
    jade_131 Posts: 59 Member
    is it really THAT hard for a teenage girl to lose some extra fat?! :(

    Dude, you've only been doing it for 5 weeks. That's really not that long. You said at the end of your first post you're seeing small changes. That's better than no changes.

    lol sorry that wasn't directed at you, I just posted that so that everyone can see
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    You need to seriously lower your carb intake, eat lean meat and veggies for two weeks and you'll see a difference

    ah, but it's not that easy when I'm asian... I don't think it's that. Most asians eat rice 3 times a day and still stay slim and fit. I can't leave me rice nooOOOOOoOoo :(

    Eat your rice, OP. Carbs are part of an overall healthy diet.
  • SabrinaJL
    SabrinaJL Posts: 1,579 Member
    lol sorry that wasn't directed at you, I just posted that so that everyone can see

    That's cool. I do understand the frustration. I've been stuck at the same weight for about 11 months. Although I recently realized that despite the fact the weight hasn't budged, I went from a size 12 to a 10. So there was progress, just very slow progress.