"I deserve it"
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Food is not a way to reward yourself ,
if you gained weight from eating the wrong way then its a punishment,
so why continue to inflict self punishment
food should be seen like it is fuel for the body to sustain your life.
its only a treat when you have done the hard yards and got to where you can say it poses no threat
and then you can have occasional treats, and celebrations of food and drink.
indulging while trying to get to goal weight causes pain and suffering,
and I dont ever want to go backwards again.
is a 30 second nice little morsal of empty worthless food really worth it,0 -
You deserve to enjoy whatever food you enjoy, in moderation.
If that is a nice hunk of sugary milk chocolate.... by all means indulge within your caloric and "other" limits.
In then end, we all exercise to live..... we don't live to exercise. A life is finite, everything fades someday. Forcing oneself to eat only certain types of food without enjoyment isn't good. That will cause a habit to fail in the long game. Afterall, our tastebuds are a wonderful creation.
^^ This. I don't see food as reward, it's just food. Setting it up as a reward system separates food into "good" and "bad" categories, which is really simplistic. Also, there's a lot of assuming that certain foods are "bad" and therefore you need to do something special to "deserve" to eat them. If you want pizza, have some. Just fit it in your goal and don't feel the need to justify eating it.0 -
Yep!
I also like the phrase "Don't reward yourself with food, you're not a dog!"
whats wrong with dogs?
Which bit of my reply states there is something wrong with dogs?
the your not a dog part. its superialist. think about it.
I thought it just means dogs are usually rewarded with food.
That said, as much as I think dogs are great especially fluffy ones, I think I am superior to dogs.
"the white man don't understand the land, buffalo grow so few, treat dog like animal"
chief was right.0 -
A little indulgence is good for the soul and emotional well-being.
you could also make the counter argument that getting control and awareness of putting nutritionally lame food in your body is good for the soul and emotional well being.
just depends on which way you want to look at it0 -
You deserve to enjoy whatever food you enjoy, in moderation.
If that is a nice hunk of sugary milk chocolate.... by all means indulge within your caloric and "other" limits.
In then end, we all exercise to live..... we don't live to exercise. A life is finite, everything fades someday. Forcing oneself to eat only certain types of food without enjoyment isn't good. That will cause a habit to fail in the long game. Afterall, our tastebuds are a wonderful creation.
Completely agree! I deserve to enjoy my food without feeling guilty. A little indulgence is good for the soul and emotional well-being.
How much is a little tho?
The amount that is right for you will be known to you. For me, I try to keep it under 20% of my total calories if it is low in nutrients, like desserts.0 -
A little indulgence is good for the soul and emotional well-being.
you could also make the counter argument that getting control and awareness of putting nutritionally lame food in your body is good for the soul and emotional well being.
just depends on which way you want to look at it
Yes, that's true as well. Actually, I would consider that statement as a corollary rather than a counter.
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A little indulgence is good for the soul and emotional well-being.
you could also make the counter argument that getting control and awareness of putting nutritionally lame food in your body is good for the soul and emotional well being.
just depends on which way you want to look at it
Yes, that's true as well. Actually, I would consider that statement as a corollary rather than a counter.
just go for the cookie carrot rule.
have a cookie, followed by a large carrot. probably you will only make it to the second carrot.
for some reason this thread makes me want to punch my own face repeatedly. anyone know why?0 -
for some reason this thread makes me want to punch my own face repeatedly. anyone know why?
maybe you could take a break from being a smart *kitten* for a few minutes0 -
The amount that is right for you will be known to you. For me, I try to keep it under 20% of my total calories if it is low in nutrients, like desserts.
So a fifth of your calories are junk? Fairly poor going.
You do realise by consuming more junk foods your make yourself less insulin sensitive and more likely to put on fat? You will also increase your triglycerides and other bad markers in the blood.
I would suggest making your junk meals a couple of times a week. You'll find you'll drop weight much easier and improve your blood markers.0 -
The amount that is right for you will be known to you. For me, I try to keep it under 20% of my total calories if it is low in nutrients, like desserts.
So a fifth of your calories are junk? Fairly poor going.
You do realise by consuming more junk foods your make yourself less insulin sensitive and more likely to put on fat? You will also increase your triglycerides and other bad markers in the blood.
I would suggest making your junk meals a couple of times a week. You'll find you'll drop weight much easier and improve your blood markers.
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The amount that is right for you will be known to you. For me, I try to keep it under 20% of my total calories if it is low in nutrients, like desserts.
So a fifth of your calories are junk? Fairly poor going.
You do realise by consuming more junk foods your make yourself less insulin sensitive and more likely to put on fat? You will also increase your triglycerides and other bad markers in the blood.
I would suggest making your junk meals a couple of times a week. You'll find you'll drop weight much easier and improve your blood markers.
I don't believe in "junk food." Rather, some foods have more nutrients than others.
As far as my weight drop, I've lost nearly 50 pounds in 5 months. (Today is actually my five months anniversary.) In fact, I recently upped my calories from 1800 to 1900 in order to slow it down a bit. I have averaged 2.3 pounds a week, and I'd like it go down to about 1.5 pounds a week.
ETA: Insulin levels have nothing to do with fat loss when in a calorie deficit, unless you have a medical condition like diabetes.0 -
A little indulgence is good for the soul and emotional well-being.
you could also make the counter argument that getting control and awareness of putting nutritionally lame food in your body is good for the soul and emotional well being.
just depends on which way you want to look at it
Yes, that's true as well. Actually, I would consider that statement as a corollary rather than a counter.
just go for the cookie carrot rule.
have a cookie, followed by a large carrot. probably you will only make it to the second carrot.
for some reason this thread makes me want to punch my own face repeatedly. anyone know why?
LOL! I actually have no problem limiting my cookies, now that I am consciously aware of my food intake.
I am someone who got fat simply from not paying attention to what I was eating. MFP has helped me learn about maintaining my macronutrient ratios and calorie intake, something I was never aware of before.0 -
The amount that is right for you will be known to you. For me, I try to keep it under 20% of my total calories if it is low in nutrients, like desserts.
So a fifth of your calories are junk? Fairly poor going.
You do realise by consuming more junk foods your make yourself less insulin sensitive and more likely to put on fat? You will also increase your triglycerides and other bad markers in the blood.
I would suggest making your junk meals a couple of times a week. You'll find you'll drop weight much easier and improve your blood markers.
insulin sensitivity is related to body fat levels and not what food you eat.0 -
The amount that is right for you will be known to you. For me, I try to keep it under 20% of my total calories if it is low in nutrients, like desserts.
So a fifth of your calories are junk? Fairly poor going.
You do realise by consuming more junk foods your make yourself less insulin sensitive and more likely to put on fat? You will also increase your triglycerides and other bad markers in the blood.
I would suggest making your junk meals a couple of times a week. You'll find you'll drop weight much easier and improve your blood markers.
insulin sensitivity is related to body fat levels and not what food you eat.
Insulin levels have nothing to do with fat loss when in a calorie deficit, unless you have a medical condition like diabetes.0 -
A little is easy and hard to define. It is easy to define because it is what fits within your caloric/nutrient allowances. Hard because that is totally personal depending on your conditions, body type, etc.
A decent nutritionist or PT should be able to define that for you.
Often times people starve themselves from the things they love when on a diet. Studies show that will have a very high rate of failure. In simple terms a 90/10 ratio works well.
Some foods have good healthy replacements that can be acquired with close taste sensation but for some foods... there is no equivalent.
Fitness is a two part process. The body AND the mind.
It is argued that even allowing oneself to indulge is a discipline failure but it could be argued that by not allowing an indulgence every now and then that it is an act of mental punishment.
To clarify, I am not advocating for the people who use it as a "reward".
I am simply saying be careful when you eliminate foods you enjoy completely so that it doesn't eventually lead to a negative habit change or worse.0 -
Love your mentality, I had never thought of food like that but then again I see food very differently to some people.
I think the healthier you eat the less sugar and rubbish food you want anyway, chips, which used to be a big thing for me ... well I'm really not keen on them now
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You deserve to enjoy whatever food you enjoy, in moderation.
If that is a nice hunk of sugary milk chocolate.... by all means indulge within your caloric and "other" limits.
In then end, we all exercise to live..... we don't live to exercise. A life is finite, everything fades someday. Forcing oneself to eat only certain types of food without enjoyment isn't good. That will cause a habit to fail in the long game. Afterall, our tastebuds are a wonderful creation.
^^ This. I don't see food as reward, it's just food. Setting it up as a reward system separates food into "good" and "bad" categories, which is really simplistic. Also, there's a lot of assuming that certain foods are "bad" and therefore you need to do something special to "deserve" to eat them. If you want pizza, have some. Just fit it in your goal and don't feel the need to justify eating it.
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A little is easy and hard to define. It is easy to define because it is what fits within your caloric/nutrient allowances. Hard because that is totally personal depending on your conditions, body type, etc.
A decent nutritionist or PT should be able to define that for you.
Often times people starve themselves from the things they love when on a diet. Studies show that will have a very high rate of failure. In simple terms a 90/10 ratio works well.
Some foods have good healthy replacements that can be acquired with close taste sensation but for some foods... there is no equivalent.
Fitness is a two part process. The body AND the mind.
It is argued that even allowing oneself to indulge is a discipline failure but it could be argued that by not allowing an indulgence every now and then that it is an act of mental punishment.
To clarify, I am not advocating for the people who use it as a "reward".
I am simply saying be careful when you eliminate foods you enjoy completely so that it doesn't eventually lead to a negative habit change or worse.
Very well said. :drinker:0 -
The amount that is right for you will be known to you. For me, I try to keep it under 20% of my total calories if it is low in nutrients, like desserts.
So a fifth of your calories are junk? Fairly poor going.
You do realise by consuming more junk foods your make yourself less insulin sensitive and more likely to put on fat? You will also increase your triglycerides and other bad markers in the blood.
I would suggest making your junk meals a couple of times a week. You'll find you'll drop weight much easier and improve your blood markers.
insulin sensitivity is related to body fat levels and not what food you eat.
Insulin levels have nothing to do with fat loss when in a calorie deficit, unless you have a medical condition like diabetes.
If you think that sweetie pie, carry on with your slow weight loss.
TTFN!
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When you combine aerobically exercise and eat below maintenance (and indeed even excess) mitochondria release ffa from adipose tissues to burn off as fat. When you fast it reduces your blood triglycerides as they take president as an energy source over glucose as your glucose is low enough. Which as you know is ketosis. You don't have to be registering on keto sticks btw, if you aren't it just means you are utilizing your ketone bodies.
As you know blood transports fuel taken up via insulin the body to areas of the body that need it. That includes glucose and triglycerides.. thus when you exercise cardio or otherwise fuel is burnt. Basic Biology. Exercise even includes just moving around day today.
So please don't labour the point when you are wrong.0 -
i'm getting really sick of hearing this.
If i mess up and eat something junky, i'll forgive myself. I'm human. i'll probably go so far as to say i'll enjoy every taste of that crappy, junky food. but i will not say 'it's ok, i deserved it".
i deserve better than junk. i deserve good, healthy, nutritious food that fills my body's needs.
so, i've started telling myself that. when i steam my veggies, and sit down with the great meal that i've planned out, i think to myself 'i deserve this great food, and it's doing me good'. and it feels good.
You go girl! This is great! You deserve to have a healthy life
Treat your body like a temple, but of course indulge once in awhile!
I've actually been told not to eat 100% clean all the time, your body gets used to it and if by chance you do put "junk" in your system it will store it all as fat (its not sure the next time it may get a tasty treat so it stores it!)0 -
I like that... I also have heard someone asking" I know you love cookies... but do cookies love you back?..are cookies good to you?" and the answer is NO
Cookies are not good for me! .. they give me cellulite and i hate cellulite so therefore i hate cookies!0 -
I don't see food as reward, it's just food. Setting it up as a reward system separates food into "good" and "bad" categories, which is really simplistic. Also, there's a lot of assuming that certain foods are "bad" and therefore you need to do something special to "deserve" to eat them. If you want pizza, have some. Just fit it in your goal and don't feel the need to justify eating it.
A great way to look at it!0 -
for some reason this thread makes me want to punch my own face repeatedly. anyone know why?
maybe you could take a break from being a smart *kitten* for a few minutes
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The amount that is right for you will be known to you. For me, I try to keep it under 20% of my total calories if it is low in nutrients, like desserts.
So a fifth of your calories are junk? Fairly poor going.
You do realise by consuming more junk foods your make yourself less insulin sensitive and more likely to put on fat? You will also increase your triglycerides and other bad markers in the blood.
I would suggest making your junk meals a couple of times a week. You'll find you'll drop weight much easier and improve your blood markers.
insulin sensitivity is related to body fat levels and not what food you eat.
Insulin levels have nothing to do with fat loss when in a calorie deficit, unless you have a medical condition like diabetes.
If you think that sweetie pie, carry on with your slow weight loss.
TTFN!
EDIT
When you combine aerobically exercise and eat below maintenance (and indeed even excess) mitochondria release ffa from adipose tissues to burn off as fat. When you fast it reduces your blood triglycerides as they take president as an energy source over glucose as your glucose is low enough. Which as you know is ketosis. You don't have to be registering on keto sticks btw, if you aren't it just means you are utilizing your ketone bodies.
As you know blood transports fuel taken up via insulin the body to areas of the body that need it. That includes glucose and triglycerides.. thus when you exercise cardio or otherwise fuel is burnt. Basic Biology. Exercise even includes just moving around day today.
So please don't labour the point when you are wrong.
Slow?
I noticed how you edited out my comment that I am losing 2.3 pounds per week, 50 pounds in 5 months. Anything faster would be bordering on unhealthy.
Everything I am doing is working well. I've lowered my body fat by 14% since I started MFP. I listen to people who know what they are talking about and haven proven themselves as successful. (like Sidesteal, one of the few people I have requested as a friend.) I also do my own research and have read many peer-reviewed studies about this. I used to believe that sugar caused fat. I have learned the truth: eating too much food causes fat storage, not any one particular food type or nutrient.
So, you can downplay my success all you want. (I know how it must suck that your theory has been proven wrong, at least in my case.) Everyone I know, and those on my friends list are in awe of my rapid progress. And I am quite proud of myself and my new lifestyle. :bigsmile:
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You are clearly ignoring science that sidesteal will agree with.
As in terms of success? I'm a Gaspari UK athlete ( http://www.gasparinutrition.co.uk/team-gaspari/uk-athletes/matt-wild/ ) and everyone I've coached bar one has made the British finals of the federation they compete in.
I didn't edit out anything. I'm not that pathetic to need to do crap like that.
I just get tired of people like you who read a bit thinking they know it all, especially when they know a person who knows a good amount. Yes sidesteal knows his stuff, but you cannot ignore what I have said as it IS simple biology.0 -
You are clearly ignoring science that sidesteal will agree with.
As in terms of success? I'm a Gaspari UK athlete ( http://www.gasparinutrition.co.uk/team-gaspari/uk-athletes/matt-wild/ ) and everyone I've coached bar one has made the British finals of the federation they compete in.
I didn't edit out anything. I'm not that pathetic to need to do crap like that.
I just get tired of people like you who read a bit thinking they know it all, especially when they know a person who knows a good amount. Yes sidesteal knows his stuff, but you cannot ignore what I have said as it IS simple biology.
Well and you shouldn't be as ignorant as to suggest that losing ten pounds a month is "slow." :laugh:
If I had more time, I would quote SideSteal on the numerous times he has discussed that sugar does NOT derail weight loss. And I am living proof of that fact. 0 -
You are clearly ignoring science that sidesteal will agree with.
As in terms of success? I'm a Gaspari UK athlete ( http://www.gasparinutrition.co.uk/team-gaspari/uk-athletes/matt-wild/ ) and everyone I've coached bar one has made the British finals of the federation they compete in.
I didn't edit out anything. I'm not that pathetic to need to do crap like that.
I just get tired of people like you who read a bit thinking they know it all, especially when they know a person who knows a good amount. Yes sidesteal knows his stuff, but you cannot ignore what I have said as it IS simple biology.
Well and you shouldn't be as ignorant as to suggest that losing ten pounds a month is "slow." :laugh:
If I had more time, I would quote SideSteal on the numerous times he has discussed that sugar does NOT derail weight loss. And I am living proof of that fact.
Ok, 10lb on average a month is good, well done - it was wrong of me to say otherwise. HOWEVER...
You didn't lose 10lb a month, that is just the median. if you are honest, you probably dropped 20lb in the first month and then smaller amounts there on in, due to water and glycogen in the muscle lowering.
And I didn't say SUGAR. I said JUNK. Junk being a mixture of proteins/carbs/fats. You are hearing what you want to hear. Junk food will only ever be that - JUNK.
Learning to live a healthy lifestyle is learning to eat in a way that will not return one to the way they were before. A bad November suggests (I may be completely wrong here) you were returning to what made you put the weight on?
Please do not lecture me about healthy eating and you knowing - I've never been near a 40" waist in my life and I'm a 18-19 stone body builder. My profile picture is me. All my pictures are me. I understand the running's of human biology, and have a partner who is psychologist as well who deals with the mental sides that you are experiencing relating to food.
Junk, is junk.0 -
I just bust out laughing at my desk, thank you!ahh.. yeh, you go girl...
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Love this!
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You are clearly ignoring science that sidesteal will agree with.
As in terms of success? I'm a Gaspari UK athlete ( http://www.gasparinutrition.co.uk/team-gaspari/uk-athletes/matt-wild/ ) and everyone I've coached bar one has made the British finals of the federation they compete in.
I didn't edit out anything. I'm not that pathetic to need to do crap like that.
I just get tired of people like you who read a bit thinking they know it all, especially when they know a person who knows a good amount. Yes sidesteal knows his stuff, but you cannot ignore what I have said as it IS simple biology.
Well and you shouldn't be as ignorant as to suggest that losing ten pounds a month is "slow." :laugh:
If I had more time, I would quote SideSteal on the numerous times he has discussed that sugar does NOT derail weight loss. And I am living proof of that fact.
Ok, 10lb on average a month is good, well done - it was wrong of me to say otherwise. HOWEVER...
You didn't lose 10lb a month, that is just the median. if you are honest, you probably dropped 20lb in the first month and then smaller amounts there on in, due to water and glycogen in the muscle lowering.
And I didn't say SUGAR. I said JUNK. Junk being a mixture of proteins/carbs/fats. You are hearing what you want to hear. Junk food will only ever be that - JUNK.
Learning to live a healthy lifestyle is learning to eat in a way that will not return one to the way they were before. A bad November suggests (I may be completely wrong here) you were returning to what made you put the weight on?
Please do not lecture me about healthy eating and you knowing - I've never been near a 40" waist in my life and I'm a 18-19 stone body builder. My profile picture is me. All my pictures are me. I understand the running's of human biology, and have a partner who is psychologist as well who deals with the mental sides that you are experiencing relating to food.
Junk, is junk.
You will never get through to some people on this site.............they are too tied emotionally to their "junk food".0
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