Help please

Ok, I don't usually ask for help, but I started my weight loss about a year ago and lost about 50 pounds. About 2 months ago, I got stressed and gave in to stress eating and gained 10 pounds back. I have lost a few of those, but I've REALLY been struggling to lose weight. I'm not losing inches either.

So, here is what I do:

I try to be active daily and move around (I'm a music teacher who walks around while teaching and travels to different schools).

I generally eat healthy and try to keep my macros like this: Carbs 40%, Protein: 30%, Fat: 30% I generally end up eating 1400-1800 calories depending on my activity level.

I drink lots of water (even though I don't always log my water).

I go to the gym 5-6 days a week: ,I do 30-55 minutes (ish) of cardio - treadclimber or elliptical and now doing C25K, then I do one body area in weights (legs; triceps/chest; biceps/shoulders; abs/back). If I still have energy, I alternate the 30 minute cardio room with the 12 minute ab room and then I stretch.

I wear a FitBit and try to eat back the calories it says to. I know that the number looks big, but the calories burned are actually lower than my HRM (which I also wear with workout). My calorie goal says 900, but that's not my actual goal, I only changed it to that low, to get it to match my FitBit calorie goal. According to the FitBit, my calorie deficit is about 800-1000 calories a day.

So, what can I do to make the scale to start moving in the right direction again or even to start losing inches again? Please help me :)
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  • melonclarinet
    melonclarinet Posts: 163 Member
    Bump...I really do need help
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    Quit eating back your exercise calories. It really isn't necessary if you have your budget set correctly. A FitBit is a pedometer not a way to measure calorie burn.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    I agree. You apparently do not have the calorie deficit you think you do. Try eating at 1400, without eating back calories and see if that works for you.
  • BroiledNotFried
    BroiledNotFried Posts: 446 Member
    Doctor & thyroid checked?
  • BroiledNotFried
    BroiledNotFried Posts: 446 Member
    And, moving around calories does not count with me unless I sweat.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    How many calories were you eating when you lost the first 50 pounds?
  • Hadunka
    Hadunka Posts: 59 Member
    What? Don´t eat back your burnt calories? I eat my burnt calories and I´m losing. Every week. Maybe you don´t burn such a amount, try to eat one half of them and you will see the results.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Also - is your daily goal set at 900????
  • IrishHarpy1
    IrishHarpy1 Posts: 399 Member
    Quit eating back your exercise calories. It really isn't necessary if you have your budget set correctly. A FitBit is a pedometer not a way to measure calorie burn.

    Sorry, have to disagree with you there. The Fitbit is surprisingly accurate at calculating calorie burn -- I have several friends who have the BodyMedia Fit as well as a Fitbit, and the calorie burn estimates are nearly identical. I credit *my* Fitbit with helping me lose the last ten pounds to reach (then surpassed) my goal, and it keeps me motivated. I set my activity level here to "Sedentary," then use a HRM to calculate cardio and let the Fitbit adjust the rest.

    I *also* eat back my exercise calories, but only if I'm hungry. I don't force myself to eat just because "hey look -- I have 500 more calories I can eat!" It's just nice to have them there if I want a treat.

    What may help is trying to switch up your routine a little. Try a different exercise, or change the time of day that you do your workouts. I got a HUGE boost my moving my workouts to early morning before going to work... not only did it push me past a "slump," but I find I have more energy throughout the day. Not to mention that it's nice to not have to worry about fitting in a workout after a rough day in the office. :smile:
  • ihad
    ihad Posts: 7,463 Member
    I'm a stress eater too. I have recently started using the Fitbit One. I think the calorie adjustment is a little high, based on past experience. Maybe try eating back progresively less every couple days, and see what happens. A good reality check would be to use a tdee calculator to see your burn at various activity levels, and compare that to what the fitbit says.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    Also - is your daily goal set at 900????

    She explained that in her post. She doesn't eat 900 per day, she eats around 1600
  • amnsetie
    amnsetie Posts: 666 Member
    I don't have a fitbit so I have no idea why it would tell you your resting calorie intake should be 900 cals
    You would have to be well under 5' tall to need that little
    At 5'4" i have more like 1500 resting calorie needs, add exercise and walking around at work and i would need a lot more.
    check your settings.

    and watch the salt
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    She is only 5'1"

    Her BMR should be around 1250.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    She is only 5'1"

    Her BMR should be around 1250.

    I'm 5'1 and my BMR is not 1250. I doubt her's is either.
  • I know this might not seem very fair of me, but i know of a way but i cant post it here cause it might come off as an advertisement. But I can tell you that i have lost just this week alone, 7 lbs. I have not exercised one bit and I do not starve myself. And believe it or not I do indulge in my favorite ice cream for the holiday season. Peppermint! Just cant be without it.. You tell me how I can give you what you need to know .:happy:
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    I know this might not seem very fair of me, but i know of a way but i cant post it here cause it might come off as an advertisement. But I can tell you that i have lost just this week alone, 7 lbs. I have not exercised one bit and I do not starve myself. And believe it or not I do indulge in my favorite ice cream for the holiday season. Peppermint! Just cant be without it.. You tell me how I can give you what you need to know .:happy:

    How is this not an advertisement?
  • wallingt
    wallingt Posts: 1 Member
    I know this sounds a little crazy, but sometimes the best thing to do is take a break from what you're doing. Our physiology is designed to adapt to and maintain the state we put our bodies in. Maybe change it up totally and ignore the scale for a little while. Get in the pool instead of the weight room, try some yoga and meditation, try some outdoors exercise. But most important, love yourself. Feel good about what you eat, feel good about exercising your miracle of a body and feel good about the world. State of mind and state of health cannot be separated. For you to be commited enough to blog means you care a lot about yourself. You're doing great, the scale will catch up.
  • Easy.. I am a member and dont work for any company pushing or selling anything... Just a person on the same journey as all here, trying to lose the excess weight and to get healthy
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    Then why not just provide your advice??
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    She is only 5'1"

    Her BMR should be around 1250.

    I'm 5'1 and my BMR is not 1250. I doubt her's is either.

    Well, she is 33 and around 50% BF, according to online calculators, her BMR would be between 1250 and 1275.
    If you are younger and have a lower BF%, then your BMR will be higher than hers.
  • melonclarinet
    melonclarinet Posts: 163 Member
    My BMR is about 1450 (according to a bunch of calculators some say much higher, but I go with the lower one). My BF is not 50%. I don't count just general moving around as part of my calorie burn, I just gave that information as back ground. I know people who sit around all day and then go to the gym for a half hour and think that makes them active.

    When I was losing before, I was eating around the same (maybe a little bit more) and exercising less. As I said before, I've been checking my calorie burn with my HRM and it shows a much higher burn than my FitBit does. Example: yesterday, I went to the gym; my fitbit said I burned about 550 and my HRM said it was 760. I'm not entering those calories or anything, just looking for my own information. Also, I've been eating a total of around 1600 calories (not net) I've been ignoring the net, because I know that the fitbit is giving me too many calories back.

    I'm thinking maybe I should un-sync my fitbit from myfitnesspal and just manually enter the calories burned with workout.

    I've been changing up what I do with my workouts, but I have a really hard time changing WHEN. I need to fix my insomnia issues...maybe if I just force myself out of bed at 4 or 4:30 it will help me fall asleep at night (we all have dreams right?)

    Thanks for the advice so far guys!
  • stop listening to the fitbit.
    That thing is a waste of money, i sent mine back, you would probably be better off just eating back pure cardio calories instead of logging every little thing and trying to dance around that number with food.
  • melonclarinet
    melonclarinet Posts: 163 Member
    stop listening to the fitbit.
    That thing is a waste of money, i sent mine back, you would probably be better off just eating back pure cardio calories instead of logging every little thing and trying to dance around that number with food.

    So your advice is to actually eat more? Because if I do it that way (using my HRM to find out my calorie burn), I would be eating around 1800-2000 calories. If I set my calorie goal at 1200 and then ate back half of the calories from my workout, I'd be at 1600 (about what I've been doing now) but if I ate back all of them, I'd be at 2000. Or do you suggest not eating back any calories?
  • No, i am saying that MFP gives you a number, based on what your activity level is and how much you wanna lose, mines 1570, so i eat that, and whatever calories i burn at the gym.. 500-700 per session, and thats all i do.. trying to make things easier with a HRM or fitbit to grab at every last place you could burn a calorie is only going to make things harder. Burn more then you eat thats all it really is.
  • melonclarinet
    melonclarinet Posts: 163 Member
    Exactly: MFP says eat 1200 if I'm also adding back gym calories, I'd be doing about 600-800 additional calories (if I went by MFP it would be higher, so would what the cardio machines do). From all of the research I've done, the heart rate monitor is the best way to figure out how many calories you burn (I only wear the HRM when I'm at the gym working out). So then, I'd be eating 1800-2000 calories.

    Unfortunately, burn more than you eat worked for the first 50 pounds I lost, but has not been working now. I'm eating less and burning more, but not losing any weight.
  • Thats why.

    Eat more.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    How long have you been eating around 1600, and exactly how many pounds have you lost in that time? If you have been eating at that level for several weeks and have not lost ANY weight at all, then the scientifically based answer would be that you are not eating at a calorie deficit. Simply eating MORE, without adding extra exercise, will NOT magically make you start losing weight. Please don't get caught up in the mentality that you can do that. There is a lot more to the Eat More plan than simply adding calories.

    What most likely has happened, is when you lost 50 pounds, your BMR naturally lowered. It takes fewer calories to sustain 220 pounds than it does to sustain 170 pounds. This is normal.

    I would suggest recalculating your BMR.
    First, find your BF%. The online BF% can vary, but I have found that for women, the Army calculator that uses your neck, waist, and hip measurements is the most accurate. The average 5'1" woman has a lean body mass of around 90 pounds. (everything except fat). If you are currently 180, then that would put your BF% around 50%. That is how I estimated your BF%. You can get a more accurate number by entering your measurements into the Army BF% calculator.

    That sounds high, but in contrast, a healthy 25% BF would be around 115 for the average female at your height. If you have extra muscle mass, you can weigh higher than that.

    Once you have your BF%, then use the Katch-Mcardle BMR calculator to figure your BMR. The calculator that MFP uses, only goes by your height and weight, and doesn't take into account your body composition. It assumes as average BF% of around 30% for women. For someone who is higher or lower than that, the BMR number can be quite a bit off. Having a lower BF% raises your BMR, while having a higher one lowers it.

    When you have an accurate BMR, then you can figure your TDEE by either using the activity level percentages, or you can choose sedentary and eat back your calories burned.

    What type of HRM do you use to figure your burns? Hands down, the most accurate HRMs are ones that use a chest strap, and of those, the Polar brand have been the most recommended one for use by women.

    Burning calories with exercise is harder than most people realize. I have to have a fairly high HR (ave 130+) and consistent moderate to high effort to burn 400 calories in an hour. MFP calculator gives me twice that number, as does the computer on my stationary bike. I don't know why there is such a great discrepancy with the numbers, but for the light to moderate exercisers on here, most of them have discovered the same.

    Once you get an accurate idea of how many calories you are actually burning in a day, then you can decide how much of a calorie deficit you need to lose 1-2 pounds per week.

    If you have kept an accurate food log for a while, you can figure out your average daily calories eaten for that time, compare it with pounds lost, and see pretty easily what your calorie deficit is. If you have indeed lost zero calories in that time, then you might be eating around maintenance level. Water fluctuations can throw that off a bit, but not a whole lot over several weeks time.

    If you HAVE lost weight, but just not as quickly as you would like to, or not as quickly as you did the first time, then you might just need to lower your expectations a bit. The more you have to lose, the faster and easier it can come off. The closer you get to goal weight, the slower your loss rate will be.

    Hang in there and don't get discouraged. You can figure out what works for you. It just takes a little patience and trial and error.
  • melonclarinet
    melonclarinet Posts: 163 Member
    After doing the calculations that you said, my BMR is right where I thought- about 1400. I did these numbers before asking my question, but I figured I'd double check. My BF is high, but it's 40% (according to the Army calculator) My HRM is a Polar FT4 (I believe) and yes it has a chest strap. The Polar HRM is what is telling me I'm burning 600-800 calories in a workout. I haven't used the MFP burn for numbers since the very beginning, because I knew they were high (same with what the machine says). I definitely wouldn't consider myself a "light exerciser" I aim for a HR of 140+ when on cardio with my ultimate goal being 155 to 160. Even in the cardio room, I'm able to get my HR to be around 145 when doing the cardio part, but it tends to drop to about 120 ish when doing the weights portion of the room. My HR stays around 100 when I'm doing strength training. In contrast, my resting HR is in the low 50's (sometimes even in the upper 40s).
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,419 Member
    stop listening to the fitbit.
    That thing is a waste of money, i sent mine back, you would probably be better off just eating back pure cardio calories instead of logging every little thing and trying to dance around that number with food.

    So your advice is to actually eat more? Because if I do it that way (using my HRM to find out my calorie burn), I would be eating around 1800-2000 calories. If I set my calorie goal at 1200 and then ate back half of the calories from my workout, I'd be at 1600 (about what I've been doing now) but if I ate back all of them, I'd be at 2000. Or do you suggest not eating back any calories?

    You have two devices and they both are telling you to eat more. You used to lose weight eating more.


    What's the question? You have the answer right in front of you.