What I've learned about TDEE
jrmartinezb
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Total Daily Energy Expenditure is probably the most important number anyone interested in losing weight should know. Eat above TDEE and you will gain weight, eat below and you will lose weight, eat at TDEE and your weight will stay the same.
The devil, of course, is in the details. Researchers have come up with formulas that can give most people a reasonable approximation of their TDEE. Those formulas however will not give a precise number and in some cases won’t even be close to accurate. Actual TDEE depends on a number of factors that are simply not accounted in the formulas that websites, apps and other online tools use. So, what really determines your TDEE? As far as I know, TDEE depends basically on the following:
1. Total body mass. You need energy to stay alive. The more of you there is the more energy you need .
2. Body composition. Not all tissue requires the same amount of energy, muscle needs much more than fat to be maintained.
3. Age. As we get older we use less energy. I don’t know if it is actually caused by the decrease in activity and muscle that usually comes with age or by something else.
4. Sex. Males have a higher calorie requirement. For males and females of the same height/weight/age, for instance, the Harris Benedict formula can predict differences of over 18%. I don’t know if this comes only from men having (generally) more muscle than females or from something else.
5. Activity level. Clearly, energy is needed to perform normal daily activities and exercise.
6. Caloric intake. This can be broken down in three ways:
a. Just as any other bodily function, processing food uses energy. The amount of energy needed depends mainly on the caloric intake.
b. Composition of diet. Not all foods require the same amount of energy to process. Protein requires much more than fat. Carbs are somewhere in between.
c. A low calorie diet can induce hormonal changes that reduce the body’s energy requirements.
7. A myriad other factors such as hormones, health conditions, genetics, stress, etc.
What to do with this information? I can only share what I’ve learned:
-The number MFP, Fat2Fit or other sites give is an estimate. My actual needs are close but different.
-I should measure my progress and adjust periodically. My own body will tell me if I need to eat more or not. In the end getting to know my own body is one of the many rewards of becoming healthy/fit
-Focus should be on what I can change. I will have to deal with the genetics I’ve got, but I can – and will - change my body composition, my activity level, and my diet.
The devil, of course, is in the details. Researchers have come up with formulas that can give most people a reasonable approximation of their TDEE. Those formulas however will not give a precise number and in some cases won’t even be close to accurate. Actual TDEE depends on a number of factors that are simply not accounted in the formulas that websites, apps and other online tools use. So, what really determines your TDEE? As far as I know, TDEE depends basically on the following:
1. Total body mass. You need energy to stay alive. The more of you there is the more energy you need .
2. Body composition. Not all tissue requires the same amount of energy, muscle needs much more than fat to be maintained.
3. Age. As we get older we use less energy. I don’t know if it is actually caused by the decrease in activity and muscle that usually comes with age or by something else.
4. Sex. Males have a higher calorie requirement. For males and females of the same height/weight/age, for instance, the Harris Benedict formula can predict differences of over 18%. I don’t know if this comes only from men having (generally) more muscle than females or from something else.
5. Activity level. Clearly, energy is needed to perform normal daily activities and exercise.
6. Caloric intake. This can be broken down in three ways:
a. Just as any other bodily function, processing food uses energy. The amount of energy needed depends mainly on the caloric intake.
b. Composition of diet. Not all foods require the same amount of energy to process. Protein requires much more than fat. Carbs are somewhere in between.
c. A low calorie diet can induce hormonal changes that reduce the body’s energy requirements.
7. A myriad other factors such as hormones, health conditions, genetics, stress, etc.
What to do with this information? I can only share what I’ve learned:
-The number MFP, Fat2Fit or other sites give is an estimate. My actual needs are close but different.
-I should measure my progress and adjust periodically. My own body will tell me if I need to eat more or not. In the end getting to know my own body is one of the many rewards of becoming healthy/fit
-Focus should be on what I can change. I will have to deal with the genetics I’ve got, but I can – and will - change my body composition, my activity level, and my diet.
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What you wroteJR Martinez """ Those formulas however will not give a precise number and in some cases won’t even be close to accurate. """"
This is so true for me, i can't loseanything at all if i eat back my exercise calories..that 1200 calorie a day allowance for me is firm so i know my TDEE is not actually accurate.0 -
What you wroteJR Martinez """ Those formulas however will not give a precise number and in some cases won’t even be close to accurate. """"
This is so true for me, i can't loseanything at all if i eat back my exercise calories..that 1200 calorie a day allowance for me is firm so i know my TDEE is not actually accurate.0 -
I got a Ki Fit / Body Media / Body Bugg (all the same I believe) I've found that the best way to figure out a TDEE. Apparently it's within 10% accurate.
For me I've found my losses aren't just down to my deficit... But largely down to my macros. Learning what my TDEE is has shown me I need to eat more... And that is a good thing because I felt better for doing so.
Along the way you'll have to constantly find what works for you NOW... A lot of trial, error and patience is needed but it is more than worth it! X0 -
????????????EXACTLY, i don't know my TDEE----but I do Know that when i eat the 1200 calories as clean food (not processed) and do not eat exercise cals back, my weight loss goals move within reach.
Thank You 4 helping us with this JRMartinez. ????????????
What you wroteJR Martinez """ Those formulas however will not give a precise number and in some cases won’t even be close to accurate. """"
This is so true for me, i can't loseanything at all if i eat back my exercise calories..that 1200 calorie a day allowance for me is firm so i know my TDEE is not actually accurate.0 -
Nice post!0
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Can someone please help me figure out my TDEE?
I am 45-years old, female , desk job.
I am 5`0 143-lbs my BMR is 1,215
I will eat my exercise calories on the days that i work out.
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TDEE seems pretty mysterious to me. I use Scooby's calculator, but that is probably as off as anything else.
I just try to eat whole, natural foods and let my body tell me what I need. I've been really, really hungry this weekend. Like, waking up in the middle of the night because my stomach is growling kind of hungry. That has never happened to me before, even when eating at only 1200 calories. So I just decided I would pig out a bit and see what happens.
This morning I felt like I had better muscle definition, less jiggle and looked stronger overall. I guess I just needed to go over by 1500 calories to get things back in order.0
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