Elliptical

r_schmidt
r_schmidt Posts: 1
edited January 6 in Fitness and Exercise
Ok so on my exercise, I get on the elliptical trainer, I workout for 60 minutes, on the machine it says only like 700 calories but on here it ways 1100 calories burned,, which one should I go by??
And, when I put in my exercise it bumps up my calorie intake,, should I be eating more,, or stay under my original calorie maximum before exercise??

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  • felcandy
    felcandy Posts: 228 Member
    MFP calories are generally higher than actual calories burned. And I would say eat back some of the calories you burned off in order to sustain yourself. you shouldnt make your calorie deficit too high, it is dangerous
  • longtimeterp
    longtimeterp Posts: 614 Member
    neither...mfp is waaayyyy high, and machines tend to overestimate by at least 15%-20%...the only way to really tell is to get a heart rate monitor...

    i would be on the elliptical for an hour and think i burned a bunch of calories (800+), once i got my hrm i realized i was wasting that hour as i wasnt getting my heart rate up enough to do any good and was maybe hitting like 450-500 cals
  • longtimeterp
    longtimeterp Posts: 614 Member
    MFP calories are generally higher than actual calories burned. And I would say eat back some of the calories you burned off in order to sustain yourself. you shouldnt make your calorie deficit too high, it is dangerous
    how is it dangerous? i went on a 40 mile bike ride, burning over 3000 calorie just on that 4hr ride, and i only ate like 2800 over the course of the entire day nothing bad happened at all and i was just a little hungrier than normal the next day.

    the REDSKINS, however, are dangerous this year! HTTR!!!
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    both numbers are too high...average cals burned is 7-8 a minute....going 60 minutes there is no way you are going at a real fast pace so you are probably burning 6-7 a minute

    60 minutes on the elliptical is better than nothing but you could use your time much better and get better results by limiting elliptical to 15-20 minutes and doing something hard for 15-20 minutes like lifting some weights
  • felcandy
    felcandy Posts: 228 Member
    i didn't say it was dangerous to do it once, just that it could be dangerous to set the deficit too high. you need calories as energy to survive and to eat too little is dangerous.
  • I use a Nike Fuelband to determine what my calorie burn should be. It's not as accurate as a heart rate monitor but it is definitly more accurate then the machine and whatever MFP uses to determine what the calorie burn should be. I try not to eat back all my calories I burn, some but not all. I try to leave at least 200 - 300 calories on the board at the end of the day.
  • CarlieeBear
    CarlieeBear Posts: 325 Member
    The manager of my gym says ours are pretty accurate. I still try to leave my usual deficit. I usually do 20-30 min on the elliptical (HR in the 160, slightly labored breathing and sweating a good bit) in addition to weight machines. I'm concentrating on upper body for lifting since my legs get a reasonable workout on the elliptical.

    I trust the machine over MFP since the machine at least knows something about my workout beyond what machine and how long.
  • knightreader
    knightreader Posts: 813 Member
    MFP calories are generally higher than actual calories burned. And I would say eat back some of the calories you burned off in order to sustain yourself. you shouldnt make your calorie deficit too high, it is dangerous
    how is it dangerous? i went on a 40 mile bike ride, burning over 3000 calorie just on that 4hr ride, and i only ate like 2800 over the course of the entire day nothing bad happened at all and i was just a little hungrier than normal the next day.

    the REDSKINS, however, are dangerous this year! HTTR!!!

    "hail!" fellow redskins fan here, living in ny.

    and to make the post relevant to mfp, i wouldn't say a huge deficit once in a while would be bad for you. i think it would kind of even out over a few days or a week or so. but i think if you have huge deficits for a sustained period of time, it might be bad for you.
  • taylorwaylor
    taylorwaylor Posts: 417 Member
    I heard once that MFP exersize calories are so high because they also count the calories your body burns naturally, without doing anything..but im not sure!! And YES, you are supposed to eat back your exersize calories, because MFP already has you at a calorie deficit, so if you eat them back youd still be eating at that deficit...

    So if you eat 1,200 calories, burn 600 and dont eat any back, that means that calories you have eaten that dday is 600...nooottt good! Its just going to harm your body... so burn 600 calories eat them back..you'll be eating 1,700 calories but technically your still only eating 1200...if my math wasnt wrong, lol.
  • Mighty_Rabite
    Mighty_Rabite Posts: 581 Member
    Huge deficits maintained over too long of a time frame could leave your body turning to other sources for energy - it'll use some of the stored fats while it can, but with too many byproducts of fat metabolism in the blood stream, the body will then turn to muscle for energy.. definitely not a desired thing!

    You probably won't run into any issues from a huge one or two day deficit, but too much of pretty much anything is a bad thing.

    That said, it would behoove you to throw in some weights once in a while if you do mostly cardio - resistance and cardiovascular training pretty much synergize one another in ways.

    As far as machines and calorie burn readouts.. for my own logging purposes I always take the number and chop off 20%. I know there's no good way I actually burned 904 calories in 48 minutes yesterday doing cardio - yes I did 48 minutes of intervals, and they were HARD, but I'm not sure 18.8 cal/min is even possible for a 176lb individual.
  • longtimeterp
    longtimeterp Posts: 614 Member

    As far as machines and calorie burn readouts.. for my own logging purposes I always take the number and chop off 20%. I know there's no good way I actually burned 904 calories in 48 minutes yesterday doing cardio - yes I did 48 minutes of intervals, and they were HARD, but I'm not sure 18.8 cal/min is even possible for a 176lb individual.

    b4 i got my hrm, that 20% off was EXACTLY what i did too...and then when comparing that 20% number to my hrm, the numbers would usually come VERYYYY close
  • longtimeterp
    longtimeterp Posts: 614 Member
    I heard once that MFP exersize calories are so high because they also count the calories your body burns naturally, without doing anything..but im not sure!! And YES, you are supposed to eat back your exersize calories, because MFP already has you at a calorie deficit, so if you eat them back youd still be eating at that deficit...

    Wouldn't all calorie counts count what you were burning during that time? i don't think machines or hrms subtract the bmr from the reading, its the calories you are burning right then no matter what...
  • ericadawn92
    ericadawn92 Posts: 346 Member
    Everywhere I've read about how many calories your actually burn while working out on an elliptical machine (or something similar) says that the machine and MFP completely over-estimate how many calories you're burning.

    With that being said, I work out on an elliptical multiple days a week, and I really push myself: I'm always sweating a lot and have labored breathing. I would say that I'm usually working out harder than everyone else around me or I'm one of the hardest working people. I don't get lazy on the elliptical. And I've just decided to record 10 cal/min burned. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I always eat back my exercise calories and eat at the deficit MFP sets me at and I've been losing as much weight as MFP predicts, if not more.
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