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RubyRed8067
RubyRed8067 Posts: 301
edited January 6 in Fitness and Exercise
Do you do any cardio before strength training, and if so, how long? Does it even matter? Have you found that you lose more weight by only doing strength training or have you had more luck with cardio mixed in? If you do weights, what is your routine like? I don't feel like I challenge myself very much, but am unsure on what to do when I get to the weight room.

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  • scapez
    scapez Posts: 2,018 Member
    FWIW I've heard that if you're doing both, you should do the cardio after strength training.
  • amysj303
    amysj303 Posts: 5,086 Member
    I think it depends on your goals, if you are really trying to get stronger or build muscle, you shouldn't do cardio on the same day as strength, or if you do, split it up AM and PM. But if you are more interested in just burning fat, strength train first then cardio.
  • bpotts44
    bpotts44 Posts: 1,066 Member
    In the end I don't think it matters and I've done it both ways. I prefer cardio first as I like to feel fresh and strong on my run and I don't think it affects my strength training. I am primarily a cardio guy though. Most people using strength training and their primary would probably say the opposite. Been doing strength first in the dark and then running in the light during the winter. Do whatever works best for you and keeps you motivated.
  • vjohn04
    vjohn04 Posts: 2,276 Member
    FWIW I've heard that if you're doing both, you should do the cardio after strength training.

    Cardio after strength for me, if I am doing both on the same day...

    no sense in fatiguing your muscles with cardio and not getting the most out of your weight workout....
  • footiechick82
    footiechick82 Posts: 1,203 Member
    Cardio is usually after strength training.

    I do warm up first - 10mins-ish and then do my training then go back to cardio for 10mins-ish at the end then I stretch (or I can't move the next day!).

    Mix is always better, you stregthen your heart as well as your muscles.

    When doing strength training don't kill yourself! However, when you do sets, if you're planning on toning use a weight that you can do with some discomfort for 15 reps. By the 15th rep it's hard. If you're doing it more for strength, then use something where you can do 10 reps and want to die on the last rep and can barely achieve it.
  • I do cardio for 45-60 prior to doing strengh training. The cardio is going to take the weight off. The strengh training will tone ur body. You need both
  • Carlyannabelle
    Carlyannabelle Posts: 621 Member
    I will usually do a quick mile on the treadmill as a warm up before strength training, but that is just me. I will do my longer runs/cardio day in between lifting days.
  • rmhand
    rmhand Posts: 1,067 Member
    FWIW I've heard that if you're doing both, you should do the cardio after strength training.

    Cardio after strength for me, if I am doing both on the same day...

    no sense in fatiguing your muscles with cardio and not getting the most out of your weight workout....

    Agreed! A short cardio warm up is good prior to lifting to prep the muscles, but longer term cardio should be after weights.
  • crystalflame
    crystalflame Posts: 1,049 Member
    There's differing opinions on what's better as far as cardio vs. strength order - there's claims if you do cardio before strength, your muscles will be too fatigued to lift properly and EPOC will eat away at your muscles instead of fat. Other studies say it doesn't impact you at all and just do it in the order you want. Personally, I do cardio first - if I lift before I run, I'm too tired to run well, but running first doesn't seem to impact my lifting ability.

    Cardio is good if you have a lot to lose - you have such a high body fat percentage that there's a lot of fat for cardio to eat away at. If you don't have much to lose, strength training only is a good way to go because you preserve the maximum amount of lean body mass. I do cardio because I enjoy it, but I know my progress in lowering my BF% would be faster if I devoted more of my running time to lifting.

    Get on a program for weight lifting. New Rules of Lifting For Women, Starting Strength, a plan set up by a personal trainer - just screwing around isn't going to get you anywhere. You need structure. Also, one session with a trainer is probably a good idea just so you know your form is solid. You don't want to get hurt!
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    I will usually do a quick mile on the treadmill as a warm up before strength training, but that is just me. I will do my longer runs/cardio day in between lifting days.

    this.

    i'll usually only run on an off day, or an upper body day.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,932 Member
    I will usually do a quick mile on the treadmill as a warm up before strength training, but that is just me. I will do my longer runs/cardio day in between lifting days.

    this.

    i'll usually only run on an off day, or an upper body day.

    Same here. Cardio warm up then lifting. Heavier cardio on off days from lifting. The hormonal responses of cardio and strength actually work against maximum benefit of each.
    "AMPK is the metabolic pathway through which you adapt to cardio exercise. This interferes with MTOR, the metabolic pathway responsible for muscle protein synthesis." A quote from one of our very knowledgeable members Fire_Rock on this topic.
  • zaph0d
    zaph0d Posts: 1,172 Member
    Just do cardio first, then more cardio after. You don't want to do strength training because it will make you bulky.
  • BeccaLevine
    BeccaLevine Posts: 315 Member
    FWIW I've heard that if you're doing both, you should do the cardio after strength training.

    I also agree. Have been told by several trainers that this is the way to go. When I go in for a full work out, I warm-up 5 mins on the elliptical (gets your heart rate up) then do 30 mins of strength training, followed by 30 mins of cardio, I usually do the treadmill (like walk 5 mins, jog 20 mins, walk 5 mins).
  • FitBeto
    FitBeto Posts: 2,121 Member
    I thought you were missing "done" from your title.

    If that was the case I was expecting a 100 pic post of my ex girlfriend. Frankly, I am insulted that this wasn't what I expected.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Warm up, then strength train, then cardio if you want to do it but keep it short and not too intensive if you do.
  • jrutledge01
    jrutledge01 Posts: 213 Member
    do cardio after strength training if you're doing both (which is fine IMO)

    i do like 2 minutes on an elyptical just to get my body moving a bit before doing any lifting, but otherwise all cardio after
  • sarahlouise7
    sarahlouise7 Posts: 198 Member
    Just do cardio first, then more cardio after. You don't want to do strength training because it will make you bulky.

    strength training will build strength, tone and maybe build some muscle but its not body building so will take some great efforts to make anyone bulky, especially a woman.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Do you do any cardio before strength training, and if so, how long? Does it even matter? Have you found that you lose more weight by only doing strength training or have you had more luck with cardio mixed in? If you do weights, what is your routine like? I don't feel like I challenge myself very much, but am unsure on what to do when I get to the weight room.

    Cardio before strength training should only be for warm-up purposes. If you want to do a cardio "workout" either do it after weights, or better yet... do it on it's own day.

    For weight loss, lift first then do cardio. Actually, for almost everything, lift first. The only time you should do cardio first is if you have specific cardio goals you are working towards where you need peak performance during the cardio session.

    If you don't challenge yourself enough, lift heavier weights. It doesn't have to be complicated. Whatever lifts you do now, keep doing them, just add more weight. The other option is to look into New Rules of Lifting, Starting Strength, or Stronglifts. Personally, I think compound lifts are the only way to go.
  • morningmud
    morningmud Posts: 477 Member
    I prefer cardio after lifting so I'm fresh and ready to kill it on the weights.
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    Just do cardio first, then more cardio after. You don't want to do strength training because it will make you bulky.

    false
  • itgeekwoman
    itgeekwoman Posts: 804 Member
    I warm up for 10 on the elliptical, then I do my strength/weight lifting, then I go back and do cardio if I'm not doing HIIT during my strength.

    It all depends, but generally I was told that you want to do your cardio after strength because you have more fine motor control if you don't burn the muscles out with cardio prior to lifting.
    That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    Just do cardio first, then more cardio after. You don't want to do strength training because it will make you bulky.

    strength training will build strength, tone and maybe build some muscle but its not body building so will take some great efforts to make anyone bulky, especially a woman.

    Strength training is not bodybuilding?
  • I say after so your not so tired when lifting..
  • sarahlouise7
    sarahlouise7 Posts: 198 Member
    Just do cardio first, then more cardio after. You don't want to do strength training because it will make you bulky.

    strength training will build strength, tone and maybe build some muscle but its not body building so will take some great efforts to make anyone bulky, especially a woman.

    Strength training is not bodybuilding?

    IMO no, they are different. Some guys body build for the physical appearance and to bulk up their muscles and then some guys train for the strength, to lift the maximum weight they can and improve the strength.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I will usually do a quick mile on the treadmill as a warm up before strength training, but that is just me. I will do my longer runs/cardio day in between lifting days.

    this.

    i'll usually only run on an off day, or an upper body day.

    Same here. Cardio warm up then lifting. Heavier cardio on off days from lifting. The hormonal responses of cardio and strength actually work against maximum benefit of each.
    "AMPK is the metabolic pathway through which you adapt to cardio exercise. This interferes with MTOR, the metabolic pathway responsible for muscle protein synthesis." A quote from one of our very knowledgeable members Fire_Rock on this topic.

    What do you think of this: http://suppversity.blogspot.fr/2012/10/cardio-weights-mutual-exclusives-or.html

    Suggest cardio before can actually be more beneficial.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,932 Member
    I will usually do a quick mile on the treadmill as a warm up before strength training, but that is just me. I will do my longer runs/cardio day in between lifting days.

    this.

    i'll usually only run on an off day, or an upper body day.

    Same here. Cardio warm up then lifting. Heavier cardio on off days from lifting. The hormonal responses of cardio and strength actually work against maximum benefit of each.
    "AMPK is the metabolic pathway through which you adapt to cardio exercise. This interferes with MTOR, the metabolic pathway responsible for muscle protein synthesis." A quote from one of our very knowledgeable members Fire_Rock on this topic.

    What do you think of this: http://suppversity.blogspot.fr/2012/10/cardio-weights-mutual-exclusives-or.html
    Suggest cardio before can actually be more beneficial.

    Interesting info! Especially the slight bump in MTOR from some cardio before. As he states, there has not been a tightly controlled study on this and the couple of weight exercises don't really represent a full weight routine. And as he also points out, total volume can become an issue. But interesting nonetheless. It would be cool to see a well controlled study on this.

    I know for me,at 61, volume and recovery become issues. Eg. after a workout like today, 10 minute run, 2 minute cool down, 2 warm up sets of squats at 225, 3 work sets at 275, 3 work sets bench at 155, 1 warm up set deadlifts at 225, one work set at 280 with sets of 40# barbell curls and 20# side lifts as auxilliaries, more cardio at that point would wipe me out for today and tommorow!!
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I will usually do a quick mile on the treadmill as a warm up before strength training, but that is just me. I will do my longer runs/cardio day in between lifting days.

    this.

    i'll usually only run on an off day, or an upper body day.

    Same here. Cardio warm up then lifting. Heavier cardio on off days from lifting. The hormonal responses of cardio and strength actually work against maximum benefit of each.
    "AMPK is the metabolic pathway through which you adapt to cardio exercise. This interferes with MTOR, the metabolic pathway responsible for muscle protein synthesis." A quote from one of our very knowledgeable members Fire_Rock on this topic.

    What do you think of this: http://suppversity.blogspot.fr/2012/10/cardio-weights-mutual-exclusives-or.html
    Suggest cardio before can actually be more beneficial.

    Interesting info! Especially the slight bump in MTOR from some cardio before. As he states, there has not been a tightly controlled study on this and the couple of weight exercises don't really represent a full weight routine. And as he also points out, total volume can become an issue. But interesting nonetheless. It would be cool to see a well controlled study on this.

    I know for me,at 61, volume and recovery become issues. Eg. after a workout like today, 10 minute run, 2 minute cool down, 2 warm up sets of squats at 225, 3 work sets at 275, 3 work sets bench at 155, 1 warm up set deadlifts at 225, one work set at 280 with sets of 40# barbell curls and 20# side lifts as auxilliaries, more cardio at that point would wipe me out for today and tommorow!!

    What I found interesting is the suggestion of cardio a few hours beforehand. I do a little cardio before but I might stack morning afternoon and see how it works for me. Not sure.
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