New Study: Aerobic exercise best for fat loss

One thing to note is that aerobic exercise can increase Peptide YY which actually suppresses appetite. Something to consider as the calories were not controlled in the study..........as they are when you log you food on a site like...say, this one.

I don't see that happening long term. When you're ACTUALLY doing cardio, your appetite gets suppressed, but a few hours later? No.

Care to tell us where you got that information from?

Here is one to support my assertion if you care to do a bit of research:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12954742

"Caloric intake during a buffet lunch offered two hours after the infusion of PYY was decreased by 30 percent in the obese subjects (P<0.001) and 31 percent in the lean subjects (P<0.001). PYY infusion also caused a significant decrease in the cumulative 24-hour caloric intake in both obese and lean subjects. PYY infusion reduced plasma levels of the appetite-stimulatory hormone ghrelin."

Just because there is a study, it doesn't mean it's a good one. Studies are like term papers. The average grade is a C. I am not sure if you saw the study posted not to long about about how cardio is better for weight loss than resistance training. Would you believe that to be true? It's conditional. That study is on infusion of PYY. How much was infused? Also, how much is produced from exercise? Doesn't say.

I know you already know there are many studies out there that you don't find to be true. A few that come to mind is fat is bad, low carb is better for fat loss, things of that sort.

Remember there are 2 parts to success, 1 part is education the other part is experience. I am speaking directly from experience and common sense. If you ran a marathon(cardio) according to this PYY theory you wouldn't be hungry the next day, which obviously isn't true. I know from experience if I am hungry and I go do cardio, i won't be hungry anymore for a little while. After some time passes the appetite picks back up higher than normal.

How about rather than dismissing it out of hand you actually come up with something that supports your original statement, or come up with something that gives more insight as to why it is not a good one to use as an example of refuting your statement.

I did, go run your *kitten* and then tell me you're not hungry. Experience.

Why your study isn't good to use as an example? Because that study wasn't tested on exercise.

Nice deflection and reasoning...as usual.

ETA: as anecdotal samples of n=1 are so important. On the very rare occasions I do cardio - my appetite is suppressed and according to you, that is evidence that your statement is wrong. I am not sure however if what I do is 'running my *kitten*' as I am not sure what that is!

In my general experience, (and based on a lot of profile pictures) most men are going to be extremely disappointed if they pin all their hopes on lifting weights to make them "look better naked".

Just sayin'.

Strength training with a calorie deficit is the best way to look good naked.

One thing to note is that aerobic exercise can increase Peptide YY which actually suppresses appetite. Something to consider as the calories were not controlled in the study..........as they are when you log you food on a site like...say, this one.

I don't see that happening long term. When you're ACTUALLY doing cardio, your appetite gets suppressed, but a few hours later? No.

Care to tell us where you got that information from?

Here is one to support my assertion if you care to do a bit of research:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12954742

"Caloric intake during a buffet lunch offered two hours after the infusion of PYY was decreased by 30 percent in the obese subjects (P<0.001) and 31 percent in the lean subjects (P<0.001). PYY infusion also caused a significant decrease in the cumulative 24-hour caloric intake in both obese and lean subjects. PYY infusion reduced plasma levels of the appetite-stimulatory hormone ghrelin."

Just because there is a study, it doesn't mean it's a good one. Studies are like term papers. The average grade is a C. I am not sure if you saw the study posted not to long about about how cardio is better for weight loss than resistance training. Would you believe that to be true? It's conditional. That study is on infusion of PYY. How much was infused? Also, how much is produced from exercise? Doesn't say.

I know you already know there are many studies out there that you don't find to be true. A few that come to mind is fat is bad, low carb is better for fat loss, things of that sort.

Remember there are 2 parts to success, 1 part is education the other part is experience. I am speaking directly from experience and common sense. If you ran a marathon(cardio) according to this PYY theory you wouldn't be hungry the next day, which obviously isn't true. I know from experience if I am hungry and I go do cardio, i won't be hungry anymore for a little while. After some time passes the appetite picks back up higher than normal.

How about rather than dismissing it out of hand you actually come up with something that supports your original statement, or come up with something that gives more insight as to why it is not a good one to use as an example of refuting your statement.

I did, go run your *kitten* and then tell me you're not hungry. Experience.

Why your study isn't good to use as an example? Because that study wasn't tested on exercise.

Nice deflection and reasoning...as usual.

ETA: as anecdotal samples of n=1 are so important. On the very rare occasions I do cardio - my appetite is suppressed and according to you, that is evidence that your statement is wrong. I am not sure however if what I do is 'running my *kitten*' as I am not sure what that is!

I agree with you. After my 3:32 marathon in Nov my appetite was suppressed for two days.

I know you do a lot of running Scott, my question to you is, If you ate ad llib. do you think you would lose weight stay the same or gain weight? Keeping your current exercise program.