Grass fed organic beef vs. regular beef?

I'm not a huge meat eater but I do like it once in a while. I usually eat tofu, fish, or chicken/turkey. Once in a great while I have a taste for steak/pot roast etc. Sometimes I get nervous buying beef from the regular grocery store from all the stories of corn fed, hormones, etc. Does anybody have any personal preference? Would love to know...
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  • tommygirl15
    tommygirl15 Posts: 1,012 Member
    I always get organic if I can find it. Regular stuff is hard to avoid if you choose to eat out at restaurants or fast food places.
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    They both taste the same
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    They both taste the same

    Lies...assuming you are talking about grass-FINISHED and not just grass-FED. *All* beef is grass-fed through most of its life. The difference is (at least in the US) that conventional beef is finished on grain for X months whereas grass-finished beef is finished on, well, yeah, grass.

    There is a definite difference in the finished product...and many people actually prefer the grain-finished (although I believe that grass-finished is healthier if for no other reason than it avoids the commercial feedlot environment for the last few months of the cattle's life.)

    ETA: Oh, and IMHO, organic means almost nothing when it comes to beef.
  • 1ConcreteGirl
    1ConcreteGirl Posts: 3,677 Member
    Perhaps rephrasing the question will make this more simple: more expensive beef or less expensive beef?

    Hmm.
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
    They both taste the same

    Lies...assuming you are talking about grass-FINISHED and not just grass-FED. *All* beef is grass-fed through most of its life. The difference is (at least in the US) that conventional beef is finished on grain for X months whereas grass-finished beef is finished on, well, yeah, grass.

    There is a definite difference in the finished product...and many people actually prefer the grain-finished (although I believe that grass-finished is healthier if for no other reason than it avoids the commercial feedlot environment for the last few months of the cattle's life.)

    ETA: Oh, and IMHO, organic means almost nothing when it comes to beef.
    What about the grain-finished gluten intolerant beef? Does that taste differently?
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    They both taste the same

    Lies...assuming you are talking about grass-FINISHED and not just grass-FED. *All* beef is grass-fed through most of its life. The difference is (at least in the US) that conventional beef is finished on grain for X months whereas grass-finished beef is finished on, well, yeah, grass.

    There is a definite difference in the finished product...and many people actually prefer the grain-finished (although I believe that grass-finished is healthier if for no other reason than it avoids the commercial feedlot environment for the last few months of the cattle's life.)

    ETA: Oh, and IMHO, organic means almost nothing when it comes to beef.
    What about the grain-finished gluten intolerant beef? Does that taste differently?


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    That depends. Are we talking about full celiac beef or just gluten intolerant beef?
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    They both taste the same

    There's a difference in taste. Not that noticeable until you don't eat the grain fed kind for a few years. A mouthwatering, grain fed steak is so dang tasty in comparison.

    But to get to the heart of it, the Omega-3 to Omega-6 ratio is different between the meats. Grass fed generally has a 2:1 ratio of Omega 3 over Omega 6, and Grain fed has a 2:1 Omega 6 over Omega 3. Both are essential fats, but too much Omega 6 can lead to all sorts of health problems.

    It isn't really a big issue unless you eat a lot of other foods high in Omega 6, like cooking oils, fatty commercial salad dressings, processed fatty foods, or fried foods.

    Don't worry about the differences in beef because it won't have that much of an impact. As for the hormones, negligible in the overall scheme of things. You might have a greater impact with the naturally occurring estrogen-like chemicals in soy.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    if I had a choice and the cash, I would get the best, whatever that is.

    Wal Mart has one kind of beef and thats what I get.

    Occasionally I go to Trader Joes and splurge on their beef but I dont think it is grass fed.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    I'm not a huge meat eater but I do like it once in a while. I usually eat tofu, fish, or chicken/turkey. Once in a great while I have a taste for steak/pot roast etc. Sometimes I get nervous buying beef from the regular grocery store from all the stories of corn fed, hormones, etc. Does anybody have any personal preference? Would love to know...
    My .02 - I eat a LOT of meat (beef, pork, chicken, turkey, fish, you name it). I have absolutely no preference and don't go out of my way to look for organic, grass-fed, etc. My personal opinion (and I'm not presenting it as fact) is that a lot of it is marketing hoopla. If I want expensive beef, I'll open the wallet WIDE and order some Wagyu beef - but even as much of a delicacy as that's supposed to be, I doubt it would be worth the extra money.
  • victoria4321
    victoria4321 Posts: 1,719 Member
    I only eat grass fed and finished beef. Same with dairy I stick to raw milk from grassfed cows. I have a good source so its easy to stick to but if I couldn't get it grassfed then I wouldn't eat beef or dairy.


    Exception: I do eat dry aged steaks at steak houses and they taste okay to me. I doubt those meats are grassfed because they don't have that taste to them.
  • shanmackie
    shanmackie Posts: 194 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.

    ya...but where do you get it? i cant find it anywhere without ordering it online at outrageous prices and I aint gonna quit eating it
  • sunsnstatheart
    sunsnstatheart Posts: 2,544 Member
    They both taste the same

    There's a difference in taste. Not that noticeable until you don't eat the grain fed kind for a few years. A mouthwatering, grain fed steak is so dang tasty in comparison.

    But to get to the heart of it, the Omega-3 to Omega-6 ratio is different between the meats. Grass fed generally has a 2:1 ratio of Omega 3 over Omega 6, and Grain fed has a 2:1 Omega 6 over Omega 3. Both are essential fats, but too much Omega 6 can lead to all sorts of health problems.

    It isn't really a big issue unless you eat a lot of other foods high in Omega 6, like cooking oils, fatty commercial salad dressings, processed fatty foods, or fried foods.

    Don't worry about the differences in beef because it won't have that much of an impact. As for the hormones, negligible in the overall scheme of things. You might have a greater impact with the naturally occurring estrogen-like chemicals in soy.

    ^This. Eat what you like.
  • MemphisKitten
    MemphisKitten Posts: 878 Member
    You should watch Food Inc. :flowerforyou:
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    I'm not a huge meat eater but I do like it once in a while. I usually eat tofu, fish, or chicken/turkey. Once in a great while I have a taste for steak/pot roast etc. Sometimes I get nervous buying beef from the regular grocery store from all the stories of corn fed, hormones, etc. Does anybody have any personal preference? Would love to know...
    My .02 - I eat a LOT of meat (beef, pork, chicken, turkey, fish, you name it). I have absolutely no preference and don't go out of my way to look for organic, grass-fed, etc. My personal opinion (and I'm not presenting it as fact) is that a lot of it is marketing hoopla. If I want expensive beef, I'll open the wallet WIDE and order some Wagyu beef - but even as much of a delicacy as that's supposed to be, I doubt it would be worth the extra money.

    Don't like Wagyu at all. It's pretty nasty unless you really like to eat the fatty ring around a good piece of beef. I just don't get the fascination with it. It isn't aged, It's a thinner steak, it's mostly fat, and it is a little slimy when you chew it.
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.

    ya...but where do you get it? i cant find it anywhere without ordering it online at outrageous prices and I aint gonna quit eating it

    Whole Foods Market. Just make sure you rob a bank on the way to pay for it.
  • thisisiamj
    thisisiamj Posts: 145 Member
    If you can afford it, grass-fed beef for sure. I personally think it tastes better.
  • amann1976
    amann1976 Posts: 742 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.

    humans are not meant to eat green leaf vegetables because we can not digest the cellulose but we still eat them and they are considered "good for us"
  • AuntieMC
    AuntieMC Posts: 346 Member
    I would definitely go with the organic, grass fed meats, and much less of them!

    I spent the past year battling cancer, and one of the books I read to get information to help me in recovery was a book called "Anti-Cancer: A New Way of Life", by David Servan-Schreiber. The author had a medical degree and two PhD's, and was himself struck with Brain Cancer when he was only 30 years old. He did extensive research in the medical databases to find things that might help him recover, and his book is loaded with dietary information, as certain foods tend to promote cancer, and certain foods tend to fight cancer.

    He found that commercially raised meat has changed dramatically since World War II, and the current methods of raising beef cattle and poultry create an imbalance in Omega 6's and Omega 3's, which tends to promote the development of cancer, according to the studies he reported on. He recommends using only small quantities of meat, and that they should be organic AND grass-fed, or in the case of chicken, organic AND free-range, or in the case of fish, wild-caught, not farmed.

    On the other hand, these organic products are MUCH more expensive than regular commercially raised meats. And that matters to most people, because we only have so many dollars to spend on food. But most people probably eat too much meat, and could cut back without any nutritional harm, and save money that way. He felt that the way the Oriental and Indian people eat is more healthful, with meats as a condiment in very small quantities, rather than the main event of the meal.
  • victoria4321
    victoria4321 Posts: 1,719 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.

    ya...but where do you get it? i cant find it anywhere without ordering it online at outrageous prices and I aint gonna quit eating it

    Whole Foods Market. Just make sure you rob a bank on the way to pay for it.

    I thought whole foods was selling grain finished beef? They might have changed that maybe.

    I get my meats from a farm coop that delivers meats and dairy around NYC.
  • victoria4321
    victoria4321 Posts: 1,719 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.

    humans are not meant to eat green leaf vegetables because we can not digest the cellulose but we still eat them and they are considered "good for us"

    But we can chew them and get the vitamins/minerals out of it. No animal digests 100% of all its food. Why do you think everyone and every animal poops.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.

    ya...but where do you get it? i cant find it anywhere without ordering it online at outrageous prices and I aint gonna quit eating it

    Whole Foods Market. Just make sure you rob a bank on the way to pay for it.

    ya...I LOVE that store...I could live in there...but I cant afford to go in there very often without torturing myself
    their buffet/steam table is awesome
  • amann1976
    amann1976 Posts: 742 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.

    humans are not meant to eat green leaf vegetables because we can not digest the cellulose but we still eat them and they are considered "good for us"

    But we can chew them and get the vitamins/minerals out of it. No animal digests 100% of all its food. Why do you think everyone and every animal poops.

    does poop from 10 dollar a pound ground beef smell better than poop from 2 dollar a pound beef???? nope well then it aint all that important. plenty of studies out there saying organic products are no better for you


    I think the most important think to consider when buying meats or produce is where is it sourced from. some countries have regulations about their meats and produce and some dont so being aware where the stuff you put into your mouth comes from is more important than whether it is certified organic or not in my opinion
  • I did watch Food Inc and thats what made me nervous originally... Did anybody else watch it. I'm not super fanatical about eating organic but if I can make some small changes as in eating grass feed/finishd beef I will. Can I get it at Sprouts or Whole Foods? Colorado sadly does not have Trader Joes, I miss it frm when I lived in Cali!
  • BlackTimber
    BlackTimber Posts: 230 Member
    Grass fed beef has a balance on Omega 3 and Omega 6. Grain fed beef is more like 20/1 Omega 6 / Omega 3. This place has reasonable prices: http://vermontgrassfedbeef.weebly.com/.
  • and yes I know Whole Foods is crazy expensive! But i'm not eating beef everyday either..
  • victoria4321
    victoria4321 Posts: 1,719 Member
    If you have to eat beef, go with organic grass fed always. Hormones and antibiotics are no good. And cows aren't meant to be eating corn.

    humans are not meant to eat green leaf vegetables because we can not digest the cellulose but we still eat them and they are considered "good for us"

    But we can chew them and get the vitamins/minerals out of it. No animal digests 100% of all its food. Why do you think everyone and every animal poops.

    does poop from 10 dollar a pound ground beef smell better than poop from 2 dollar a pound beef???? nope well then it aint all that important. plenty of studies out there saying organic products are no better for you


    I think the most important think to consider when buying meats or produce is where is it sourced from. some countries have regulations about their meats and produce and some dont so being aware where the stuff you put into your mouth comes from is more important than whether it is certified organic or not in my opinion

    Of course its your own opinion to eat as you choose. I'd rather spend more money on good food than on future healthcare costs. I like spending $10/lb on my beef because it tastes better to me. I also like knowing that my cow wasn't grown on a feedlot eating garbage its whole life. Oh yeah, and its also not certified usda organic because that term doesn't mean much. The usda uses that organic branding for profit only.
  • I would definitely go with the organic, grass fed meats, and much less of them!

    I spent the past year battling cancer, and one of the books I read to get information to help me in recovery was a book called "Anti-Cancer: A New Way of Life", by David Servan-Schreiber. The author had a medical degree and two PhD's, and was himself struck with Brain Cancer when he was only 30 years old. He did extensive research in the medical databases to find things that might help him recover, and his book is loaded with dietary information, as certain foods tend to promote cancer, and certain foods tend to fight cancer.

    He found that commercially raised meat has changed dramatically since World War II, and the current methods of raising beef cattle and poultry create an imbalance in Omega 6's and Omega 3's, which tends to promote the development of cancer, according to the studies he reported on. He recommends using only small quantities of meat, and that they should be organic AND grass-fed, or in the case of chicken, organic AND free-range, or in the case of fish, wild-caught, not farmed.

    On the other hand, these organic products are MUCH more expensive than regular commercially raised meats. And that matters to most people, because we only have so many dollars to spend on food. But most people probably eat too much meat, and could cut back without any nutritional harm, and save money that way. He felt that the way the Oriental and Indian people eat is more healthful, with meats as a condiment in very small quantities, rather than the main event of the meal.
  • CRody44
    CRody44 Posts: 776 Member
    I like USDA Choice or Prime.
  • vsetter
    vsetter Posts: 558 Member
    I try my best to stick with hormone-free beef and dairy. My cancer cells were hormone fed. I'm not taking any chances, and i was never able to find any literature suggesting otherwise.