getting rid of Food Addiction
fataalic
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I started this new program four days ago and doing good so far. I am not eating sweets at all, and no wheat or any foods made from flour. I lost the cravings already.
This program is used in treatment centers for people who are addicted to high carbohydrates, and the plan is to completely abstinate from sweets and wheat since those foods trigger the cravings and overeating.
And, no weighing, except maybe one a month. The goal is not to lose weight but to stop the cravings and curb the addiction.
I recommend book by Kay Shepard "Food Addiction, the body knows". It is very good and will change your life.
Sincerely,
This program is used in treatment centers for people who are addicted to high carbohydrates, and the plan is to completely abstinate from sweets and wheat since those foods trigger the cravings and overeating.
And, no weighing, except maybe one a month. The goal is not to lose weight but to stop the cravings and curb the addiction.
I recommend book by Kay Shepard "Food Addiction, the body knows". It is very good and will change your life.
Sincerely,
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you will get a lot of haters with this post telling you that you dont need to give up any food and just do moderation with everything
IGNORE THEM
if it is working for you, that is all that matters
good luck0 -
you will get a lot of haters with this post telling you that you dont need to give up any food and just do moderation with everything
IGNORE THEM
if it is working for you, that is all that matters
good luck
Agreed. If it works for you - ignore the rest of them.0 -
this is exactly what i was saying a few minutes ago on another post. we need food but we don't have to eat sweets and sugar when we know it triggers us. it does not have to be moderation with everything if we've tried and know it doesn't work for us. i'm glad it's working out so well for people who have that ability, but for me i know what are bad triggers for me (liek peanut butter, cookies, sugar) so i try and avoid it as best i can. you're right, there will be haters who think the way they are doing it is the only way. but it's not. you know yourself best.0
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I started this new program four days ago and doing good so far. I am not eating sweets at all, and no wheat or any foods made from flour. I lost the cravings already.
This program is used in treatment centers for people who are addicted to high carbohydrates, and the plan is to completely abstinate from sweets and wheat since those foods trigger the cravings and overeating.
And, no weighing, except maybe one a month. The goal is not to lose weight but to stop the cravings and curb the addiction.
I recommend book by Kay Shepard "Food Addiction, the body knows". It is very good and will change your life.
Sincerely,
Giving up my carby ways really helped me with my food addiction so I am behind you 100%.
My problem is now I've been binging on carbs over christmas it's like giving up crack all over again - but I know that there is truth behind this and you are completely right.
Friend me if you want a like minded buddy
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I just read the introduction to a South Beach Diet cookbook I purchased the other day and reading about what high glycemic index foods do to the body was a real "aha!" moment for me. I've often wondered why I can't stop once I start on the sweets and other simple carb heavy foods. I always thought that I lack willpower. It was interesting to read the physiology behind eating those types of foods and how they do generally cause you to crave more.0
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Thank you all for supporting me. I really appreciate it.)
I have tried numerous diets in the past, all of which encourage moderation, and it never worked for me. I never wanted to give up any foods and any diet that was advertising that I simply ignored.
But, I think that you have to have a supernatural willpower to really stop yourself from bingeing on more sweets and carbs once you taste that one cookie, candy and other foods that trigger your cravings.
While some people can, I know I can't. And I know that there are many people out there that cannot handle it either.
I believe it is some kind of chemical imbalance, your brain starts producing neurotransmitters that make you feel good when you eat sweets and high refined carbs, and your body starts telling you to get more and more and more until you feel miserable and despise yourself for not being able to resist.
I don't want to feel that way ever again. :noway:0 -
Thanks "newhabit".
If you can't handle sweets and carbs, then avoid them as much as you can.
It is like poison for some of us.0 -
I have lost weight easily and without stress on several occasions using no flour, no sugar. It was simple and I felt great. Do what works for you!
Sometimes this site is for people who like to over-think stuff. If it works and it makes your journey easier and healthier, who cares?! I want to lose weight, not do enough studying to finish my PhD.0 -
The comment about ignoring haters is spot-on. Most people would know better than to suggest that an alcoholic have one light beer. What Kay Sheppard doesn't have is the cutting edge science of my book, THE HUNGER FIX. While her nutrition is sound, she doesn't take an integrative approach to repairing the neurotransmitters destroyed by hyperpalatable foods that contain sugar and flour. Science now shows through new tools like PET and MRI brain scans the addiction-related organic changes that take place in the reward system and the prefrontal cortex. This occurs across all additions, from drugs and alcohol to the newly discovered food addiction. This new pioneering research is also helping us to appreciate a holistic and integrative approach to addiction. I was first senior research fellow in the NIH Office of Complementary Medicine. Using food addiction as template, THE HUNGER FIX addiction plan integrates personal empowerment, spirituality, along with whole food nutrition and restorative physical activity.
I like this approach, too. You and Kay Shepard speak similar language...
Good luck with your research
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I have lost weight easily and without stress on several occasions using no flour, no sugar. It was simple and I felt great. Do what works for you!
Sometimes this site is for people who like to over-think stuff. If it works and it makes your journey easier and healthier, who cares?! I want to lose weight, not do enough studying to finish my PhD.
I am in the testing stage of this program. So far it works good and I don't feel deprived. I kind of feel free, free from the obsession with food.
If it helps me lose weight, great.
But, will i be able to stay on it my whole life...well, time will show :ohwell:0 -
I started this new program four days ago and doing good so far. I am not eating sweets at all, and no wheat or any foods made from flour. I lost the cravings already.
This program is used in treatment centers for people who are addicted to high carbohydrates, and the plan is to completely abstinate from sweets and wheat since those foods trigger the cravings and overeating.
And, no weighing, except maybe one a month. The goal is not to lose weight but to stop the cravings and curb the addiction.
I recommend book by Kay Shepard "Food Addiction, the body knows". It is very good and will change your life.
Sincerely,
Giving up my carby ways really helped me with my food addiction so I am behind you 100%.
My problem is now I've been binging on carbs over christmas it's like giving up crack all over again - but I know that there is truth behind this and you are completely right.
Friend me if you want a like minded buddy
That is great! How long have you done this? I have thought about doing this, but I am honestly afraid to. I am afraid of "relapsing". So how do you recover after Christmas? Obviously there will be times one will be faced with challenges such as birthdays and Christmas, what is the best way you have found to handle this?0 -
I started this new program four days ago and doing good so far. I am not eating sweets at all, and no wheat or any foods made from flour. I lost the cravings already.
This program is used in treatment centers for people who are addicted to high carbohydrates, and the plan is to completely abstinate from sweets and wheat since those foods trigger the cravings and overeating.
And, no weighing, except maybe one a month. The goal is not to lose weight but to stop the cravings and curb the addiction.
I recommend book by Kay Shepard "Food Addiction, the body knows". It is very good and will change your life.
Sincerely,
I totally agree with and relate to food addiction...I did Kay's plan for years and went to 12 step meetings too. It's just such a...well, I don't want to use the word "rigid"...but it's quite a challenge for ME to do this for the rest of my life, even if it IS one day at a time. I quit doing it about six years ago but have thought about going back....but somehow I have been able to control my weight with MFP and exercise and actually weigh less than I did while on the plan. But my binges are getting worse again so I may go back to it at some point. I am glad it's working for you! It does work but it's not easy.0 -
I have finally had to do the same thing for the sake of my sanity. Cravings and excess hunger drive me up the wall and take too much energy to fight.
I suspect being ADHD has a lot to do with it. Certain foods calm my brain down and even help me focus a little and in the absence of medication (which I can no longer afford) I believe food was the substitute.
I still can't concentrate worth a darn, but at least the cravings are much less severe. My mood and energy levels seem better, too.
You can do this! It isn't even as hard as you would think. I eat good. Really good, even though I do restrict calories. And I enjoy my meals.0 -
I have lost 30 lb this year by eliminating 'white products' from my diet, avoiding processed items as much as possible and reducing animal protein intake. I have found eating this way to be more of an inconvenience than a problem. It takes a bit of planning and educating yourself but my body sends me a very clear signal when I have strayed.
Stay on this path. Your body will thank you for it!0 -
Good luck to you. Sounds like you are on the right track.0
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I'm not a hater, if that works for you thats awesome! :drinker:
However..... I just don't want people to believe this is the ONLY way.
I no longer crave the stuff BECAUSE I allowed myself to eat it. Now that I'm NOT afraid of carbs and I eat enough of them, I don't obsess anymore. Its not this "forbidden" thing that I deprive myself of. It takes time, but now the draw to it is diminished.
It feels awesome to finally be able to have a scoop of ice cream, without the fear that I'll polish off half of the container.0 -
Way to go! I have been on the same plan for 2 years now. Have lost 50 pounds, I have cured my diabetes, my cholestrial to at healthy level I am 60 years old and am playing tennis again. I exercise 6 days a week for an hour. My motivation started with a book called, The End of Overeating. I tell myself to grow up and quite feeling sorry for myself, what do I want more, a cookie or to be fit? I even have a group of friends who meet with me every week. We talk about keeping motivated and our successes. I am in no hurry to put sugar and bread back in my diet. I have celebrated 2 Christmases, every family birthday, vacations even a Disney cruiser without sugar and have enjoyed myself.0
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Congrats on getting to where you are! You want this, you're working at it and you will do fine!
I agree, ignore 'haters'. I was fat because I sat on my *kitten* all day and ate garbage/processed food. I was not addicted and have no idea what an addiction is like, so I cannot judge those who are/were! They do not know your story and if your program works for you, do it!
Good luck! You've got this! 0 -
The good thing about this program is that you can eat Rye bread, Barley and oat which I like a lot, but don't make me crave it too much.
Sweets...I can stay away from them if I don't take a bite, then everything goes crazy. :frown:0 -
Way to go! I have been on the same plan for 2 years now. Have lost 50 pounds, I have cured my diabetes, my cholestrial to at healthy level I am 60 years old and am playing tennis again. I exercise 6 days a week for an hour. My motivation started with a book called, The End of Overeating. I tell myself to grow up and quite feeling sorry for myself, what do I want more, a cookie or to be fit? I even have a group of friends who meet with me every week. We talk about keeping motivated and our successes. I am in no hurry to put sugar and bread back in my diet. I have celebrated 2 Christmases, every family birthday, vacations even a Disney cruiser without sugar and have enjoyed myself.
Wow! This is truly amazing. Makes me believe that I can do it. :happy:0 -
I'm not a hater, if that works for you thats awesome! :drinker:
However..... I just don't want people to believe this is the ONLY way.
I no longer crave the stuff BECAUSE I allowed myself to eat it. Now that I'm NOT afraid of carbs and I eat enough of them, I don't obsess anymore. Its not this "forbidden" thing that I deprive myself of. It takes time, but now the draw to it is diminished.
It feels awesome to finally be able to have a scoop of ice cream, without the fear that I'll polish off half of the container.
Amanda,
it works for some people to try a bit of this and that and not go over the edge, but for those that cannot control their cravings and cannot handle that one bite, I believe they should stay away from temptation, if they can.
Like I said before, I am in the testing stage, I am not an expert, and so far am liking this program, but I have a bad history with any programs because after a while I get bored with it, the same foods and little results.
This time may be different, or it may not.
Maybe I will lose some weight and at one point introduce the trigger food back into my diet and slowly gain it all back, and maybe a little more.
Then, I will probably keep eating more and more, hate myself for loving food so much, and hope for the new "great program" that may change my life. :indifferent:0 -
I'm not a hater, if that works for you thats awesome! :drinker:
However..... I just don't want people to believe this is the ONLY way.
I no longer crave the stuff BECAUSE I allowed myself to eat it. Now that I'm NOT afraid of carbs and I eat enough of them, I don't obsess anymore. Its not this "forbidden" thing that I deprive myself of. It takes time, but now the draw to it is diminished.
It feels awesome to finally be able to have a scoop of ice cream, without the fear that I'll polish off half of the container.
Amanda,
it works for some people to try a bit of this and that and not go over the edge, but for those that cannot control their cravings and cannot handle that one bite, I believe they should stay away from temptation, if they can.
Like I said before, I am in the testing stage, I am not an expert, and so far am liking this program, but I have a bad history with any programs because after a while I get bored with it, the same foods and little results.
This time may be different, or it may not.
Maybe I will lose some weight and at one point introduce the trigger food back into my diet and slowly gain it all back, and maybe a little more.
Then, I will probably keep eating more and more, hate myself for loving food so much, and hope for the new "great program" that may change my life. :indifferent:
Amanda, for some people it IS the only way. You saying that is just like all the people that tell me that they can drink in moderation so it should be the same for other people that have a problem with alcohol.
There is no such thing as moderation for those of us that are addicted. There is a difference in over eating, over drinking and being straight up addicted. Alcoholics are addicted to the sugar in the alcohol believe it or not, that is why they give us sugar when we have the DT's. Addiction is real.
Simple fact of the matter is, the OP's post is about ADDICTION, not over consumption. In order to over come addiction, abstinence is a must. We have a problem with our neuro pathway in our brain that tells us to consume more, people that do not have this problem, well, they do not have a problem.
FATAALIC, GOOD FOR YOU. I am totally with you as I am 5 years and 13 weeks sober. There is no such thing as just having one. I have many haters that get mad at me for not drinking and get FURIOUS for suggesting that if they may have problem if they can not imagine going 30 days with out a drink. They think they can hurt me by making nasty comments to me, in all actuality, that makes me feel very sorry for them0 -
I'm not a hater, if that works for you thats awesome! :drinker:
However..... I just don't want people to believe this is the ONLY way.
I no longer crave the stuff BECAUSE I allowed myself to eat it. Now that I'm NOT afraid of carbs and I eat enough of them, I don't obsess anymore. Its not this "forbidden" thing that I deprive myself of. It takes time, but now the draw to it is diminished.
It feels awesome to finally be able to have a scoop of ice cream, without the fear that I'll polish off half of the container.
Amanda,
it works for some people to try a bit of this and that and not go over the edge, but for those that cannot control their cravings and cannot handle that one bite, I believe they should stay away from temptation, if they can.
Like I said before, I am in the testing stage, I am not an expert, and so far am liking this program, but I have a bad history with any programs because after a while I get bored with it, the same foods and little results.
This time may be different, or it may not.
Maybe I will lose some weight and at one point introduce the trigger food back into my diet and slowly gain it all back, and maybe a little more.
Then, I will probably keep eating more and more, hate myself for loving food so much, and hope for the new "great program" that may change my life. :indifferent:
Amanda, for some people it IS the only way. You saying that is just like all the people that tell me that they can drink in moderation so it should be the same for other people that have a problem with alcohol.
There is no such thing as moderation for those of us that are addicted. There is a difference in over eating, over drinking and being straight up addicted. Alcoholics are addicted to the sugar in the alcohol believe it or not, that is why they give us sugar when we have the DT's. Addiction is real.
Simple fact of the matter is, the OP's post is about ADDICTION, not over consumption. In order to over come addiction, abstinence is a must. We have a problem with our neuro pathway in our brain that tells us to consume more, people that do not have this problem, well, they do not have a problem.
FATAALIC, GOOD FOR YOU. I am totally with you as I am 5 years and 13 weeks sober. There is no such thing as just having one. I have many haters that get mad at me for not drinking and get FURIOUS for suggesting that if they may have problem if they can not imagine going 30 days with out a drink. They think they can hurt me by making nasty comments to me, in all actuality, that makes me feel very sorry for them
I am saying that it IS possible to RECOVER. And be able to eat like a normal, non disordered eater. It takes time, patience, being willing to fail, and it IS NOT EASY. But IT IS possible. I am a living testimony to that. And you have NO RIGHT to judge the severity of what I've been through or what my struggles were.
Avoiding trigger foods will work for some, thats great for them. It often is just a bandaid and only works temporarily for others. I am just sharing MY experiences, and what I've learned through MY OWN recovery. And YOU cannot take that away from me.0 -
I'm not a hater, if that works for you thats awesome! :drinker:
However..... I just don't want people to believe this is the ONLY way.
I no longer crave the stuff BECAUSE I allowed myself to eat it. Now that I'm NOT afraid of carbs and I eat enough of them, I don't obsess anymore. Its not this "forbidden" thing that I deprive myself of. It takes time, but now the draw to it is diminished.
It feels awesome to finally be able to have a scoop of ice cream, without the fear that I'll polish off half of the container.
Amanda,
it works for some people to try a bit of this and that and not go over the edge, but for those that cannot control their cravings and cannot handle that one bite, I believe they should stay away from temptation, if they can.
Like I said before, I am in the testing stage, I am not an expert, and so far am liking this program, but I have a bad history with any programs because after a while I get bored with it, the same foods and little results.
This time may be different, or it may not.
Maybe I will lose some weight and at one point introduce the trigger food back into my diet and slowly gain it all back, and maybe a little more.
Then, I will probably keep eating more and more, hate myself for loving food so much, and hope for the new "great program" that may change my life. :indifferent:
Amanda, for some people it IS the only way. You saying that is just like all the people that tell me that they can drink in moderation so it should be the same for other people that have a problem with alcohol.
There is no such thing as moderation for those of us that are addicted. There is a difference in over eating, over drinking and being straight up addicted. Alcoholics are addicted to the sugar in the alcohol believe it or not, that is why they give us sugar when we have the DT's. Addiction is real.
Simple fact of the matter is, the OP's post is about ADDICTION, not over consumption. In order to over come addiction, abstinence is a must. We have a problem with our neuro pathway in our brain that tells us to consume more, people that do not have this problem, well, they do not have a problem.
FATAALIC, GOOD FOR YOU. I am totally with you as I am 5 years and 13 weeks sober. There is no such thing as just having one. I have many haters that get mad at me for not drinking and get FURIOUS for suggesting that if they may have problem if they can not imagine going 30 days with out a drink. They think they can hurt me by making nasty comments to me, in all actuality, that makes me feel very sorry for them
Thanks, Lesa.
I need support, that is why I am here, as I am not getting much support at home.
Funny to say this, but I live with a skinny husband who eats a box of chocolate before going to bed, has horrible eating habits and all of my kids are following his way of eating. But, they are all skinny.
And, they all think they know better than me...0 -
I'm not a hater, if that works for you thats awesome! :drinker:
However..... I just don't want people to believe this is the ONLY way.
I no longer crave the stuff BECAUSE I allowed myself to eat it. Now that I'm NOT afraid of carbs and I eat enough of them, I don't obsess anymore. Its not this "forbidden" thing that I deprive myself of. It takes time, but now the draw to it is diminished.
It feels awesome to finally be able to have a scoop of ice cream, without the fear that I'll polish off half of the container.
Amanda,
it works for some people to try a bit of this and that and not go over the edge, but for those that cannot control their cravings and cannot handle that one bite, I believe they should stay away from temptation, if they can.
Like I said before, I am in the testing stage, I am not an expert, and so far am liking this program, but I have a bad history with any programs because after a while I get bored with it, the same foods and little results.
This time may be different, or it may not.
Maybe I will lose some weight and at one point introduce the trigger food back into my diet and slowly gain it all back, and maybe a little more.
Then, I will probably keep eating more and more, hate myself for loving food so much, and hope for the new "great program" that may change my life. :indifferent:
Amanda, for some people it IS the only way. You saying that is just like all the people that tell me that they can drink in moderation so it should be the same for other people that have a problem with alcohol.
There is no such thing as moderation for those of us that are addicted. There is a difference in over eating, over drinking and being straight up addicted. Alcoholics are addicted to the sugar in the alcohol believe it or not, that is why they give us sugar when we have the DT's. Addiction is real.
Simple fact of the matter is, the OP's post is about ADDICTION, not over consumption. In order to over come addiction, abstinence is a must. We have a problem with our neuro pathway in our brain that tells us to consume more, people that do not have this problem, well, they do not have a problem.
FATAALIC, GOOD FOR YOU. I am totally with you as I am 5 years and 13 weeks sober. There is no such thing as just having one. I have many haters that get mad at me for not drinking and get FURIOUS for suggesting that if they may have problem if they can not imagine going 30 days with out a drink. They think they can hurt me by making nasty comments to me, in all actuality, that makes me feel very sorry for them
I am saying that it IS possible to RECOVER. And be able to eat like a normal, non disordered eater. It takes time, patience, being willing to fail, and it IS NOT EASY. But IT IS possible. I am a living testimony to that. And you have NO RIGHT to judge the severity of what I've been through or what my struggles were.
Avoiding trigger foods will work for some, thats great for them. It often is just a bandaid and only works temporarily for others. I am just sharing MY experiences, and what I've learned through MY OWN recovery. And YOU cannot take that away from me.
Amanda,
it is really great that you can do it and I admire you for it.
True, nobody here knows what you have been through, or me or anyone else here, unless we share it.
Whatever works for you, keep doing it. :happy: :flowerforyou:0 -
Hi Sue..My name is Theresa . I just joined today . I just read what you wrote and you inspire me. Thank you. I just turned 52 and am on the borderline of being diagnosed with diabetis according to my dr. This was my do or die aha moment. I've got to be serious about it now. I'm looking forward to the benefits of this site. Congrats on your success so far!!! If you have any tips on food choice I would love to hear them. Thanks so much...:)0
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Hi...my name is Theresa..just signed up today.. I empathize with your addiction to sugar and carbs. That is exactly my problem as well. I definately am will look for that book. Thank you so much. You will do great and feel great as you're losing and be an inspiration to others I know for sure....:)0
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you will get a lot of haters with this post telling you that you dont need to give up any food and just do moderation with everything
IGNORE THEM
if it is working for you, that is all that matters
good luck
This^
Due to all the damage I had done with all the ridiculous low fat dieting and starvation in my youth, "moderation" was something that I could no longer do, and probably could never done on a grain-based diet.
I have cured all of my health issues (there were LOTS) including depression, anxiety, craving, and unstoppable bingeing by changing my diet. There isn't a grain or legume on the planet worth dying for, in my opinion. And that's exactly what I was doing, DYING. (The mono-culture of grains is also killing topsoil, watersheds, aquifers, all manner of diverse species, people/cultures, the remaining supply of fossil fuels, etc but the grains, and the subsidies that keep them "cheap" are terrific for lining the pockets of a handful of world dominating corporations.... but look out, here come the attacks... so I'll shut up now.)0 -
I'm not a hater, if that works for you thats awesome! :drinker:
However..... I just don't want people to believe this is the ONLY way.
I no longer crave the stuff BECAUSE I allowed myself to eat it. Now that I'm NOT afraid of carbs and I eat enough of them, I don't obsess anymore. Its not this "forbidden" thing that I deprive myself of. It takes time, but now the draw to it is diminished.
It feels awesome to finally be able to have a scoop of ice cream, without the fear that I'll polish off half of the container.
Amanda,
it works for some people to try a bit of this and that and not go over the edge, but for those that cannot control their cravings and cannot handle that one bite, I believe they should stay away from temptation, if they can.
Like I said before, I am in the testing stage, I am not an expert, and so far am liking this program, but I have a bad history with any programs because after a while I get bored with it, the same foods and little results.
This time may be different, or it may not.
Maybe I will lose some weight and at one point introduce the trigger food back into my diet and slowly gain it all back, and maybe a little more.
Then, I will probably keep eating more and more, hate myself for loving food so much, and hope for the new "great program" that may change my life. :indifferent:
Amanda, for some people it IS the only way. You saying that is just like all the people that tell me that they can drink in moderation so it should be the same for other people that have a problem with alcohol.
There is no such thing as moderation for those of us that are addicted. There is a difference in over eating, over drinking and being straight up addicted. Alcoholics are addicted to the sugar in the alcohol believe it or not, that is why they give us sugar when we have the DT's. Addiction is real.
Simple fact of the matter is, the OP's post is about ADDICTION, not over consumption. In order to over come addiction, abstinence is a must. We have a problem with our neuro pathway in our brain that tells us to consume more, people that do not have this problem, well, they do not have a problem.
FATAALIC, GOOD FOR YOU. I am totally with you as I am 5 years and 13 weeks sober. There is no such thing as just having one. I have many haters that get mad at me for not drinking and get FURIOUS for suggesting that if they may have problem if they can not imagine going 30 days with out a drink. They think they can hurt me by making nasty comments to me, in all actuality, that makes me feel very sorry for them
I strongly disagree. There is no ONLY way. There are crutches, some good, some bad and although this may help short term, at some point you are going to hae to ALLOW yourself to begin the discipline to change. THere are many times still I crave something, sometimes I give in, but I have learned to accept ITS ALL IN MY HEAD.0 -
I am amazed and more than a little pleased that you have not gotten ANYONE telling you that you are wrong and you need to do something different! I have been doing low carb since February. I also gave up caffeine due to a health issue. The first 2 weeks were horrible!! I can't imagine it being any tougher to give up cocaine! Then I was blown away at how much better I felt! I feel more full with less food and rarely have cravings. I think you have made a great choice and I know you can do anything you set your mind to do! You can add me if you like. I can offer support and encouragement and understanding! Good luck on your journey!
Nancy0
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