Cardio better than weights for fat loss?

In the Daily Mail today-a UK newspaper:

IF YOU WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT, YOU'RE BETTER TO GO RUNNING THAN USE WEIGHTS
Aerobic exercise is better for weight loss than resistance training such as using weights, a study shows.
The largest trial carried out to compare the two found that aerobic exercise - low intensity workouts which exercise the heart - was more effective than anaerobic, such as short springs and weight training.
It was particularly true where time constraints were an issue, reports the Journal of Applied Physiology.
The authors say ‘it may be time to seriously reconsider the conventional wisdom’ that resistance training, which helps build muscle, is best for weight loss.
The team studied 234 previously sedentary overweight or obese people aged 18-70, who were enrolled in one of three eight-month supervised training programmes: aerobic training (AT), resistance training (RT), or a combination (AT/RT).
Those assigned to aerobic training exercised vigorously, at about 70-85 per cent of maximum heart rate, for 45 minutes three days per week throughout the study period.
Those doing weight training also exercised three days a week, completing three sets of 8-12 reps on eight resistance machines that targeted all major muscle groups. The third group did both sets of exercise.
At the end of the study, the only people who had not lost weight were the resistance trainers, who actually gained weight due to an increase in lean body mass.
Those who did aerobic exercise saw their waist circumference and fat mass significantly decrease.
Lead author Leslie Willis, from North Carolina's Duke University Medical Centre, said: ‘Given our observations, it may be time to seriously reconsider the conventional wisdom that resistance training alone can lead to weight and fat loss.’


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  • thecakelocker
    thecakelocker Posts: 407 Member
    *rubs forehead*
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
    Firstly - daily mail. - Lol

    Secondly - you realise that body composition is more important than purely Scale weight loss..........right?

    At the end of the study, the only people who had not lost weight were the resistance trainers, who actually gained weight due to an increase in lean body mass.

    An increase in LBM, oh Lawd how terrible!
  • n0ob
    n0ob Posts: 2,390 Member
    losing weight while just strength training>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>losing weight doing just cardio
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,043 Member
    Wait the article didn't say FAT LOSS, it said weight loss. Just sayin'

    If someone was 150lbs and 35% bodyfat or 150lbs and 15% bodyfat and are the same height does weight really matter?

    EDIT: Okay I take that back, saw the fat loss on the last line. So my question is: how much lean body mass did the aerobic only group lose along with fat mass? Because loss of lean body mass contributes to weight loss.

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  • loosing weight is all good and cardio will do that but i would rather have a better body composition and not be at my goal weight then be at my goal weight and have no lean body mass.
  • KaydaRN
    KaydaRN Posts: 48
    I maybe step on a scale once every 2 months or so... weight means nothing to me. It's all about body composition. %body fat and % lean body mass is so much more important than how much you weigh. Muscle is so much more appealing than a twig who does nothing but cardio. Might just be me though....
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    im proof youre wrong
  • +1 to kayda
  • josiereside
    josiereside Posts: 720 Member
    I have tried both ways individually. What works for me is a combination of the 2 but focusing more on cardio. What works for one person may not work for another.. For me it was trial and error for sure.
  • The thing about strength training is it's best for changing up your body composition... you build muscle! :)

    Plus, you can basically get a cardio workout from lifting heavy. Do some deadlifts for 20 minutes. Hah.
  • Justkritter
    Justkritter Posts: 143 Member
    Firstly - daily mail. - Lol

    Secondly - you realise that body composition is more important than purely Scale weight loss..........right?

    At the end of the study, the only people who had not lost weight were the resistance trainers, who actually gained weight due to an increase in lean body mass.

    An increase in LBM, oh Lawd how terrible!

    And increasing in lean body mass is bad? I loled. Seriously, weight doesn't really reflect anything about your over-all fitness level. As what others have said, two different people can have the same weight but different muscle mass and body fat content. Its those two latter things that you should be focusing on not the weight.
  • LernRach
    LernRach Posts: 286 Member
    soooo, I dont know how many of you are British here, but those of u that are will know that ummmm, the Daily Mail isn't quite the newspaper to consult when looking for health and science info!! it is literally a rag, that prints whatever it so fancies that day. I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice of what they are saying.

    On more than one occasion I have researched their "science" articles, and find that they are flawed, biased and generally unbelievable!!!

    On another point, I think there is a need for both cardio and strength training. I don't think it is sensible to rely solely on either of them. First of all, cardio releases the hormone endorphins that keep you going during the day. I find that after a run, I am much happier to do other forms of exercise, to control my diet etc. as far as I know strength training does not release the same quantity of this hormone...
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,043 Member
    soooo, I dont know how many of you are British here, but those of u that are will know that ummmm, the Daily Mail isn't quite the newspaper to consult when looking for health and science info!! it is literally a rag, that prints whatever it so fancies that day. I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice of what they are saying.

    On more than one occasion I have researched their "science" articles, and find that they are flawed, biased and generally unbelievable!!!

    On another point, I think there is a need for both cardio and strength training. I don't think it is sensible to rely solely on either of them. First of all, cardio releases the hormone endorphins that keep you going during the day. I find that after a run, I am much happier to do other forms of exercise, to control my diet etc. as far as I know strength training does not release the same quantity of this hormone...
    In defense of the the article, the Journal of Applied Physiology is actually a legit source for study reference.

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  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Original study that they are referring to:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23019316


    Details/commentary in the October 2012 AARR if you're interested in Alan Aragon's take on it.
    It's also been discussed in detail on these forums previously.
  • josiereside
    josiereside Posts: 720 Member
    The thing about strength training is it's best for changing up your body composition... you build muscle! :)

    Plus, you can basically get a cardio workout from lifting heavy. Do some deadlifts for 20 minutes. Hah.

    Honestly, I was in the best shape of my life when I was strictly running, my body changed dramatically, muscular, trim, but again both are important.
  • WhoTheHellIsBen
    WhoTheHellIsBen Posts: 1,238 Member
    HEY LOOK!!! OVER THERE!!! IT"S A DEAD HORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA IT!!!!!:huh:
  • josiereside
    josiereside Posts: 720 Member
    soooo, I dont know how many of you are British here, but those of u that are will know that ummmm, the Daily Mail isn't quite the newspaper to consult when looking for health and science info!! it is literally a rag, that prints whatever it so fancies that day. I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice of what they are saying.

    On more than one occasion I have researched their "science" articles, and find that they are flawed, biased and generally unbelievable!!!

    On another point, I think there is a need for both cardio and strength training. I don't think it is sensible to rely solely on either of them. First of all, cardio releases the hormone endorphins that keep you going during the day. I find that after a run, I am much happier to do other forms of exercise, to control my diet etc. as far as I know strength training does not release the same quantity of this hormone...

    Not British here but a similar article was in our newspaper here, not a "rag" paper, our daily news...
  • WhoTheHellIsBen
    WhoTheHellIsBen Posts: 1,238 Member
    after we are all done buying into this garbage, we should mosey on over to the American news stations that picked up a story about how losing weight was pat for you because it releases toxins stored in your fat cells. We can do this while we all munch on Dr. Oz approved raspberry keytones
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    after we are all done buying into this garbage, we should mosey on over to the American news stations that picked up a story about how losing weight was pat for you because it releases toxins stored in your fat cells. We can do this while we all munch on Dr. Oz approved raspberry keytones

    that only works on Americans
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    HEY LOOK!!! OVER THERE!!! IT"S A DEAD HORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA IT!!!!!:huh:

    Is this the 4th or 5th time this study has been posted? I've lost count....
  • WhoTheHellIsBen
    WhoTheHellIsBen Posts: 1,238 Member
    HEY LOOK!!! OVER THERE!!! IT"S A DEAD HORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA IT!!!!!:huh:

    Is this the 4th or 5th time this study has been posted? I've lost count....

    depends, are you talking in the last hour, this year alone or of all time ?