Weights Versus Cardio

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  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,143 Member
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    Personally, if you're going to do cardio, it would be better to head to a track and do 20 minutes of intense sprints as hard as you can, rest then repeat. Long duration slow cardio is going to do nothing for you other than raise stress hormones and hunger hormones. I would lift heavy weights any day before cardio.

    Well, that's a load of crap. Long-duration cardio is a great way to burn calories while not overstressing your body - HIIT can fatigue you physically and mentally, and it can lengthen your recovery time.

    Weights are a must. Cardio is good for keeping your heart in shape and burning more calories, and many people find it relaxing or stress-relieving, but what kind of cardio and how much you do is up to you as long as you get your heart rate up enough.

    Thank you. I thought I must be strange that doing cardio for me has the OPPOSITE effect....makes me less stressful and curbs my hunger a lot. :heart:
  • omma_to_3
    omma_to_3 Posts: 3,265 Member
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    Cardio does a lot to help me burn fat. I do a little bit of strength training and plan to increase that, but won't be stopping cardio. Great for your heart, fun, cheap and easy (I run and bike), doesn't require a trip to the gym (or a membership), actually curbs my hunger (makes others hungrier though), and allows me to eat quite a bit more.

    They're both good for you, for different things and for different reasons. I wouldn't be 'fit' without cardio. Do both.
  • love4fitnesslove4food_wechange
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    I am following a similar workout style as you OP. I wouldn't be too concerned about increasing the cardio.
  • love4fitnesslove4food_wechange
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    Personally, if you're going to do cardio, it would be better to head to a track and do 20 minutes of intense sprints as hard as you can, rest then repeat. Long duration slow cardio is going to do nothing for you other than raise stress hormones and hunger hormones. I would lift heavy weights any day before cardio.

    Well, that's a load of crap. Long-duration cardio is a great way to burn calories while not overstressing your body - HIIT can fatigue you physically and mentally, and it can lengthen your recovery time.

    Weights are a must. Cardio is good for keeping your heart in shape and burning more calories, and many people find it relaxing or stress-relieving, but what kind of cardio and how much you do is up to you as long as you get your heart rate up enough.

    wrong. Long duration, steady state cardio actually increases your cortisol levels and is quite taxing on the body (believe it or not). Shorter, more intense HIIT sessions 2-3x a week are BETTER overall if you want to minimize gym time and accelerate fat loss.

    Edited to add: I also recommend strength training 3-5x a week (depending on your split/workout regimen).
  • NakedLunchTime
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    People do alot of cardio because they are uncomfortable with weights, think they will bulk up, or don't feel they have worked hard enough.. You should do what your doing if you have 5-10lbs to lose is my 2 cents.

    What? No. I do Cardio because I enjoy running. I do weights as well. Sweeping generalizations are usually not correct.
  • successgal1
    successgal1 Posts: 996 Member
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    People do alot of cardio because they are uncomfortable with weights, think they will bulk up, or don't feel they have worked hard enough.. You should do what your doing if you have 5-10lbs to lose is my 2 cents.


    Funniest thing I heard all day! I do cardio because it burns calories, lots of them, more so then weights. Yes I lose fat faster. If I did nothing but weights I'd have lots of muscle, underneath layers of fat. I could just do cardio to lose weight, but I use weights to become shapely and strong. I am in no way scared of my weights, I was in fact just yesterday looking at some new ones seeing as how my handweight set is from 1992, plastic pastel color scheme and all, but I decided mine still work just fine.

    In my opinion you should do more cardio and less weights to lose whatever fat it is you're trying to lose. But use weights for shape and strength.
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
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    It's all about your total calorie deficit and making sure it isn't unnecessarily large. Cardio, though, is fine; but it seems excessive duration at a certain intensity may not lead to additional fat loss as indicated in this and several other clinical studies.
    Body fat loss and compensatory mechanisms in response to different doses of aerobic exercise--a randomized controlled trial in overweight sedentary males.

    Abstract

    The amount of weight loss induced by exercise is often disappointing. A diet-induced negative energy balance triggers compensatory mechanisms, e.g., lower metabolic rate and increased appetite. However, knowledge about potential compensatory mechanisms triggered by increased aerobic exercise is limited. A randomized controlled trial was performed in healthy, sedentary, moderately overweight young men to examine the effects of increasing doses of aerobic exercise on body composition, accumulated energy balance, and the degree of compensation. Eighteen participants were randomized to a continuous sedentary control group, 21 to a moderate-exercise (MOD; 300 kcal/day), and 22 to a high-exercise (HIGH; 600 kcal/day) group for 13 wk, corresponding to ∼30 and 60 min of daily aerobic exercise, respectively. Body weight (MOD: -3.6 kg, P < 0.001; HIGH: -2.7 kg, P = 0.01) and fat mass (MOD: -4.0 kg, P < 0.001 and HIGH: -3.8 kg, P < 0.001) decreased similarly in both exercise groups. Although the exercise-induced energy expenditure in HIGH was twice that of MOD, the resulting accumulated energy balance, calculated from changes in body composition, was not different (MOD: -39.6 Mcal, HIGH: -34.3 Mcal, not significant). Energy balance was 83% more negative than expected in MOD, while it was 20% less negative than expected in HIGH. No statistically significant changes were found in energy intake or nonexercise physical activity that could explain the different compensatory responses associated with 30 vs. 60 min of daily aerobic exercise. In conclusion, a similar body fat loss was obtained regardless of exercise dose. A moderate dose of exercise induced a markedly greater than expected negative energy balance, while a higher dose induced a small but quantifiable degree of compensation.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22855277
  • martinh78
    martinh78 Posts: 601
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    People do alot of cardio because they are uncomfortable with weights, think they will bulk up, or don't feel they have worked hard enough..

    Bullsh*t
  • suzzann666
    suzzann666 Posts: 334 Member
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    OP...I workout much the same as you. You may not lose 5 to 10 lbs (depends on how much you have to lose), but you will shrink in size if you're doing it right (which is probably what you are really looking for)
  • S_U_M_M_E_R
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    Lots of great advice here. Do both. You should lift first and then do cardio afterward (according to my trainer). You should only do long cardio one day a week and then do interval cardio for fat burning. When I lift, my body shrinks. My measurements in my arms and butt go down really quickly and my body looks more fit and younger. Cardio (especially long cardio) has never shown me improvement much, but I LOVE it. I do it when I need to think or am feeling depressed. It makes me feel sooo good to walk. When I want to watch a movie, I walk on the tready, bc it is just better than sitting and watching it. Long cardio may not be the greatest for your body, but I can never give it up do to how much I love it and how much it gets my endorphins going. I do know that long cardio increases your appetite so be aware of that.
  • RunDoozer
    RunDoozer Posts: 1,699 Member
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    People do alot of cardio because they are uncomfortable with weights, think they will bulk up, or don't feel they have worked hard enough.. You should do what your doing if you have 5-10lbs to lose is my 2 cents.


    Funniest thing I heard all day! I do cardio because it burns calories, lots of them, more so then weights. Yes I lose fat faster. If I did nothing but weights I'd have lots of muscle, underneath layers of fat. I could just do cardio to lose weight, but I use weights to become shapely and strong. I am in no way scared of my weights, I was in fact just yesterday looking at some new ones seeing as how my handweight set is from 1992, plastic pastel color scheme and all, but I decided mine still work just fine.

    In my opinion you should do more cardio and less weights to lose whatever fat it is you're trying to lose. But use weights for shape and strength.


    Yea this is wrong. You can easily just cut out cardio completely and lose a crap ton of weight while building muscle. You're not just going to have a bunch of muscle under fat. While cardio is a good supplement to weight training it is not needed. However, it's probably best to do both provided you're not over taxing your body.
  • GiddyupTim
    GiddyupTim Posts: 2,819 Member
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    People do alot of cardio because they are uncomfortable with weights, think they will bulk up, or don't feel they have worked hard enough.. You should do what your doing if you have 5-10lbs to lose is my 2 cents.

    Nice judgement there!! :grumble:


    Some people do a lot of cardio bc they like cardio. Some do more cardio than weights and soem do more weights than cardio. Its all about preference. I will say one should do both - but the ratiio of one to the other is a personal preference!!

    Thank you, RumRunner. I was just about to let him have it. You saved me some time.

    Cardio burns a boat-load more calories than weight lifting ever does, even if you assume that by lifting you will gain much new muscle, which will increase your resting metabolism.

    Just be careful. When you exercise a lot, it makes you hungry.
  • S_U_M_M_E_R
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    People do alot of cardio because they are uncomfortable with weights, think they will bulk up, or don't feel they have worked hard enough.. You should do what your doing if you have 5-10lbs to lose is my 2 cents.


    Funniest thing I heard all day! I do cardio because it burns calories, lots of them, more so then weights. Yes I lose fat faster. If I did nothing but weights I'd have lots of muscle, underneath layers of fat. I could just do cardio to lose weight, but I use weights to become shapely and strong. I am in no way scared of my weights, I was in fact just yesterday looking at some new ones seeing as how my handweight set is from 1992, plastic pastel color scheme and all, but I decided mine still work just fine.

    In my opinion you should do more cardio and less weights to lose whatever fat it is you're trying to lose. But use weights for shape and strength.
    When you weight train it burns a lot of calories and will continue to burn for about 36 hrs after you're done lifting. Muscle burns fat even at rest. You can't go wrong EVER with weight lifting. If you do cardio at the wrong pace you can burn muscle. Your heart rate needs to be at target to burn fat and not muscle.
  • ourglasswalls
    ourglasswalls Posts: 44 Member
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    Cardio is the fast and to the point fat burner and weights are the slow and steady fat burner. Cardio is good for your health as everyone mentioned and also helps keep your day to day calories in check. Lifting on the other head increases the amount you can eat for as long as you maintain the muscle on your body. Muscle burns slightly more than fat, and will bump your BMR up. It does also make your body look nice after fat loss too :) Its like carbs and protein, its best not to leave one out.
  • KS_4691
    KS_4691 Posts: 228 Member
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    Cardio helps getting your HR up into the fat burning zone and keeping it there for a while thus maximising on the effectiveness of burning those excess fat.
    It also gives your metabolism the boost you need to keep burning fat long after you stopped your routine for the day, thus the reason you will become hungry much quicker.
    The idea is to supplement a solid cardio training programme with a decent calorie controlled diet and in the process reduce the carbs as to burn away the fat you wish to burn away THEN bulk up on the muscle you want and then trim and shape to the final shape you want by doing the weight training.

    Just my 2c

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  • tinanana7
    tinanana7 Posts: 53 Member
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    All I do is Zumba. Love that *kitten*.

    this lol! I know i need to do more strength training (and its not because i'm uncomfortable with it) but the zumba classes are always calling me. I've been doing some kettlebells to get some strength training in but i have to put on the music they use in my zumba classes to really enjoy it :)
  • successgal1
    successgal1 Posts: 996 Member
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    People do alot of cardio because they are uncomfortable with weights, think they will bulk up, or don't feel they have worked hard enough.. You should do what your doing if you have 5-10lbs to lose is my 2 cents.


    Funniest thing I heard all day! I do cardio because it burns calories, lots of them, more so then weights. Yes I lose fat faster. If I did nothing but weights I'd have lots of muscle, underneath layers of fat. I could just do cardio to lose weight, but I use weights to become shapely and strong. I am in no way scared of my weights, I was in fact just yesterday looking at some new ones seeing as how my handweight set is from 1992, plastic pastel color scheme and all, but I decided mine still work just fine.

    In my opinion you should do more cardio and less weights to lose whatever fat it is you're trying to lose. But use weights for shape and strength.
    When you weight train it burns a lot of calories and will continue to burn for about 36 hrs after you're done lifting. Muscle burns fat even at rest. You can't go wrong EVER with weight lifting. If you do cardio at the wrong pace you can burn muscle. Your heart rate needs to be at target to burn fat and not muscle.

    That is true. It is also true that if you are lifting right, to gain muscle, your muscles take that 36 hours to recover, in the meantime, you can do quite a bit of cardio at the right pace to burn more fat.
  • ziegman49
    ziegman49 Posts: 28 Member
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    That is like me saying "people do weights because they can't stand then pain of their lungs burning from a hard run."

    I spent 10+ years doing nothing but weights and I can say without a doubt in my mind weights are an easier workout. But it really just comes down to what you want. Muscle burns more calories all day but less during the actual workout. Cardio will burn a ton during the workout but few after (if you go hard enough you can get an after burn effect). Weights you can do 5+ times a week but rotating muscle groups. For cardio, you may not be able to run 6 miles 5x a week. Depending on your fitness level, find the combo that allows you to maximize your calorie deficit.
  • S_U_M_M_E_R
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    People do alot of cardio because they are uncomfortable with weights, think they will bulk up, or don't feel they have worked hard enough.. You should do what your doing if you have 5-10lbs to lose is my 2 cents.


    Funniest thing I heard all day! I do cardio because it burns calories, lots of them, more so then weights. Yes I lose fat faster. If I did nothing but weights I'd have lots of muscle, underneath layers of fat. I could just do cardio to lose weight, but I use weights to become shapely and strong. I am in no way scared of my weights, I was in fact just yesterday looking at some new ones seeing as how my handweight set is from 1992, plastic pastel color scheme and all, but I decided mine still work just fine.

    In my opinion you should do more cardio and less weights to lose whatever fat it is you're trying to lose. But use weights for shape and strength.


    Yea this is wrong. You can easily just cut out cardio completely and lose a crap ton of weight while building muscle. You're not just going to have a bunch of muscle under fat. While cardio is a good supplement to weight training it is not needed. However, it's probably best to do both provided you're not over taxing your body.
    I agree with you!
  • S_U_M_M_E_R
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    Cardio will burn a ton during the workout but few after (if you go hard enough you can get an after burn effect). Weights you can do 5+ times a week but rotating muscle groups. For cardio, you may not be able to run 6 miles 5x a week. Depending on your fitness level, find the combo that allows you to maximize your calorie deficit.
    This is true. I do believe and have heard you should do cardio for your heart. This is because I dated a guy that did nothing but weights, he was lean and looked sooo incredibly healthy. He was having problems with something internally (forgot what) and went to the doctor. The doctor asked, "how much cardio are you doing?". My ex said, "none, I only lift". The doctor said, "you need to do cardio for your heart or you'll be looking good for your casket SOONER than LATER".

    I want to add that when I do weight training I get results really quickly by losing inches at an alarming rate. Almost like magic, yet the scale doesn't move. I can do weights (full body, twice a week, lifting to exhaustion at reps up to 20 X2) and wear an entire size smaller in underwear in four weeks, lol. I also had a skirt which went from too tight on the waist to baggy and also a top which used to pull at the back and then in a month laid nicely over my back, the sleeves went from tight to loose. And as I said this was all in four weeks of lifting ADDED to the tons of cardio, I had done for over a year. What a difference four weeks of weight lifting added to a routine can make. I was shocked. One summer I lifted for three months the way mentioned above and was able to wear short shorts with no cellulite at all. Mind you I am in my forties so this is a great thing. In the past I had always just done cardio alone and hadn't been able to be cellulite free in years and years. I'm telling you WEIGHTS are going to be the LOVE of your life if you try it. Better than plastic surgery. If you're a female, they will lift your breasts too. Jillian Micheals said this, but I can attest to it. I had noticed some sag going on in that area and thought I need a "boob lift" and was going to call a surgeon. But after lifting, they perked right up. I'm a DD so even at that size, they can perk. When I go without lifting for a while (I am never consistent) they start to droop again. Lifting for a month or so and they perk. Sorry, if this is, "too much info" but I think we are here to help each other and share experiences and I hope this helps a woman who is afraid to lift.

    I know HOW one lifts is a preference, I mix it up and the above is just an actual example of what I did last April, but it is what my PT had me do. It may be wrong in the eyes of some, but being that it worked for me, it must have been right (for me).