i need to start eating more than my BMR but never can, help!

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  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    okay thanks people and i do understand, ONE LAST THING THOUGH, my mum will be making chapatti and curry/lentils/daal everyday, as we all know it has lots of butter in and other fats in the currys and lots of carbs in chapatti's, so will this make me gain more fat if i eat it once everyday for lunch or will it be okay to up my calories?

    Butter is not an unhealthy fat and carbs are not the enemy so eat!
  • okay thanks people and i do understand, ONE LAST THING THOUGH, my mum will be making chapatti and curry/lentils/daal everyday, as we all know it has lots of butter in and other fats in the currys and lots of carbs in chapatti's, so will this make me gain more fat if i eat it once everyday for lunch or will it be okay to up my calories?

    Butter is not an unhealthy fat and carbs are not the enemy so eat!

    okay i will do but will it make me gain double the fat eating it? or will it be okay eating it once a day?
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
    Read my original response regarding disproportionate amount of fat gain relative to fat-free mass. You will gain back some of the fat you lost. That's just the harsh reality after eating so little for so long as your body wants to recover the lost weight - and most of it will be from fat since you won't recover a lot of the fat-free mass you lost.

    In the end, one needs to supply more energy than what their present TDEE is to gain fat. For instance, I lift weights 5 days per week and need 2900 calories to maintain my weight and body composition. I am losing fat presently because I am eating 2500 to 2600 calories. Thus, I am providing less energy in the form of calories compared to how much my body needs total.

    I wouldn't really care much if I were you since your main goal is to up calories from varied sources. In fact, for most refeed programs, the initial phase typically has 40 to 50% of your calories from fats to help restore hormonal function and the state of the heart (if its function and size has been reduced).
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    okay thanks people and i do understand, ONE LAST THING THOUGH, my mum will be making chapatti and curry/lentils/daal everyday, as we all know it has lots of butter in and other fats in the currys and lots of carbs in chapatti's, so will this make me gain more fat if i eat it once everyday for lunch or will it be okay to up my calories?

    Butter is not an unhealthy fat and carbs are not the enemy so eat!

    okay i will do but will it make me gain double the fat eating it? or will it be okay eating it once a day?

    Fat doesn't make people fat like we were once told. Nothing makes us fat except for eating more calories than we burn. Enjoy your mums cooking!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    yes but how do i prevent my thighs from getting jiggly? i know your saying don't do cardio until i've started to eat the normal calorie amount but what type of exercises can i do for my thighs, belly and arms if i don't want to gain fat there when trying to up my calories? :)<3

    You missed it.

    Lift weights. Strength training. Resistance training.

    http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/Instructions.html
  • i will start eating chapatti once a day with the indian dish my mum makes then and thankyou for everyone who has taken their time to reply to my post, it helped me out alot! i realise i need to go to a certain weight because i am not at the moment, i will be increasing my calories slowly each day and then stick to the right amount that works for me which will start of with 1,500..

    i will be eating healthily and lifting light weights and maybe doing some pilates or cardio but lightly and i will be eating less junk food, maybe just once a week:)
  • MonsterToBe
    MonsterToBe Posts: 244 Member
    I am a certified personal trainer who occasionally refers members with known or possible history of eating disorders to the appropriate health specialists. With that said, here is some info for you in regards to your questions.

    There are two contributing factors determining the amount of fat gained during weight recovery: Initial body fat percentage and the adjusted value in one's Resting Metabolic Rate (degree of decline and the rate it takes to increase).

    This may not be what you wish to hear but I am sorry to say the reality for persons such as yourself is that you will gain a disproportionate amount of fat during weight recovery relative to lean body mass. When one chronically restricts their calories to that severity, a significant amount of total weight lost is from fat-free mass, or lean body mass (muscle tissue, bone mass density, water, etc). However, only a fraction of that LBM is recovered during weight recovery. Thus, if one returns to their initial weight, prior to engaging in disordered eating, they will have a much higher body fat percentage as most of the weight gained is fat mass.

    The only things that can up your Resting Metabolic Rate is: continuing to up calories until you reach your adjusted TDEE, and maintaining it, and increasing LBM. Usually, the time in which it takes for ones RMR to reach optimal levels is equal to the length of calorie restriction. However, the rate at which you gain LBM will shorten that time. This is where lifting weights will benefit tremendously as your RMR and adjusted TDEE increase. I am not qualified to tell you what to do, but many treatments will either recommend a slow or rapid refeed depending on the severity of the ED it and health consequences that result. If you do opt for a slower refeed (upping of calories), this will allow your RMR to catch up and increase slowly, thus minimizing [somewhat] the disproportionate gain in fat mass.

    In the end, you should still speak to a health specialist dealing with EDs to get the proper plan implemented.

    This. In plain terms, there is no way to do this and get healthy that does not involve TEMPORARILY gaining fat, including jiggly parts. But if you work with a health professional to guide you through it and have them let you know when you're eating enough to safely start weight lifting, and you train for STRENGTH (not endurance, not hypertrophy), you'll turn it into a tight, toned healthy body. When they say it's ok, find a personal trainer with experience in powerlifting who is comfortable with the idea of ladies lifting heavy. Look for success stories on the boards here like this one: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/815749-ladies-don-t-be-afraid-of-lifting-heavy-pic to see what lifting heavy can do for your body. Notice that she is almost exactly the same weight in her before and after pics but looks very different!

    There is an MFP group on here I think it would be helpful for you to join:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/3817-eat-more-to-weigh-less
    You can read about other peoples' experience with refeeding and dealing with the initial, temporary weight gain on their way to healthier lives. Most of them were not nearly as calorie restricted as you have been, but they had to go through the same process of letting themselves gain while they reset their metabolism and then changing their body composition and achieving health. You may have a longer journey than most, but it's the same path, and seeing their successes can help you hold out hope for your own during the time when you struggle with accepting the changes in your body. Talking on the board with others who have gone through that struggle can help you stick with it and achieve your goals. And developing a realistic expectation of the process you will go through will mean that when you start gaining, you will be able to interpret it as success, not failure! And when you start lifting and your body changes, getting tight and strong, you will wonder how you ever lived any other way.

    Most importantly, if you currently aren't, please see a mental health professional about ED related issues. Realize that recovery from ED is like any other type of recovery -- success requires support, especially since recovery is not a smooth upward journey. It involves missteps, backsliding, and days when you just falter. It's important to have someone who can remind you that you are just as valuable, lovable, and worthwhile on these days as on the days of your wildest successes. Visit as many therapists as you need to find someone you feel a connection with and can trust. And love yourself enough to take care of your body no matter what you think it looks like at a particular point along your journey.
  • I am a certified personal trainer who occasionally refers members with known or possible history of eating disorders to the appropriate health specialists. With that said, here is some info for you in regards to your questions.

    There are two contributing factors determining the amount of fat gained during weight recovery: Initial body fat percentage and the adjusted value in one's Resting Metabolic Rate (degree of decline and the rate it takes to increase).

    This may not be what you wish to hear but I am sorry to say the reality for persons such as yourself is that you will gain a disproportionate amount of fat during weight recovery relative to lean body mass. When one chronically restricts their calories to that severity, a significant amount of total weight lost is from fat-free mass, or lean body mass (muscle tissue, bone mass density, water, etc). However, only a fraction of that LBM is recovered during weight recovery. Thus, if one returns to their initial weight, prior to engaging in disordered eating, they will have a much higher body fat percentage as most of the weight gained is fat mass.

    The only things that can up your Resting Metabolic Rate is: continuing to up calories until you reach your adjusted TDEE, and maintaining it, and increasing LBM. Usually, the time in which it takes for ones RMR to reach optimal levels is equal to the length of calorie restriction. However, the rate at which you gain LBM will shorten that time. This is where lifting weights will benefit tremendously as your RMR and adjusted TDEE increase. I am not qualified to tell you what to do, but many treatments will either recommend a slow or rapid refeed depending on the severity of the ED it and health consequences that result. If you do opt for a slower refeed (upping of calories), this will allow your RMR to catch up and increase slowly, thus minimizing [somewhat] the disproportionate gain in fat mass.

    In the end, you should still speak to a health specialist dealing with EDs to get the proper plan implemented.

    This. In plain terms, there is no way to do this and get healthy that does not involve TEMPORARILY gaining fat, including jiggly parts. But if you work with a health professional to guide you through it and have them let you know when you're eating enough to safely start weight lifting, and you train for STRENGTH (not endurance, not hypertrophy), you'll turn it into a tight, toned healthy body. When they say it's ok, find a personal trainer with experience in powerlifting who is comfortable with the idea of ladies lifting heavy. Look for success stories on the boards here like this one: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/815749-ladies-don-t-be-afraid-of-lifting-heavy-pic to see what lifting heavy can do for your body. Notice that she is almost exactly the same weight in her before and after pics but looks very different!

    There is an MFP group on here I think it would be helpful for you to join:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/3817-eat-more-to-weigh-less
    You can read about other peoples' experience with refeeding and dealing with the initial, temporary weight gain on their way to healthier lives. Most of them were not nearly as calorie restricted as you have been, but they had to go through the same process of letting themselves gain while they reset their metabolism and then changing their body composition and achieving health. You may have a longer journey than most, but it's the same path, and seeing their successes can help you hold out hope for your own during the time when you struggle with accepting the changes in your body. Talking on the board with others who have gone through that struggle can help you stick with it and achieve your goals. And developing a realistic expectation of the process you will go through will mean that when you start gaining, you will be able to interpret it as success, not failure! And when you start lifting and your body changes, getting tight and strong, you will wonder how you ever lived any other way.

    Most importantly, if you currently aren't, please see a mental health professional about ED related issues. Realize that recovery from ED is like any other type of recovery -- success requires support, especially since recovery is not a smooth upward journey. It involves missteps, backsliding, and days when you just falter. It's important to have someone who can remind you that you are just as valuable, lovable, and worthwhile on these days as on the days of your wildest successes. Visit as many therapists as you need to find someone you feel a connection with and can trust. And love yourself enough to take care of your body no matter what you think it looks like at a particular point along your journey.

    thanks again and okay, i will be upping my calories each as i've said before and trying to do my best not to count calories.

    shall i start drinking full fat milk and using butter and margarine, olive oil etc. OR shall i stick to skimmed milk and things?
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    thanks again and okay, i will be upping my calories each as i've said before and trying to do my best not to count calories.

    shall i start drinking full fat milk and using butter and margarine, olive oil etc. OR shall i stick to skimmed milk and things?

    Why wouldn't you? You said you had problems eating enough food normally.
  • If you're recovering from an eating disorder you need to be careful in doing this. Can you see a doctor or nutritionist to help you?
    btw congratulations on your strength for fighting this =)

    Just take it in your stride, even if it's something you slowly have to work up to. Increase by 100 each 4 days or a week.
  • If you're recovering from an eating disorder you need to be careful in doing this. Can you see a doctor or nutritionist to help you?
    btw congratulations on your strength for fighting this =)

    Just take it in your stride, even if it's something you slowly have to work up to. Increase by 100 each 4 days or a week.
    thanks, i'm on 1100-1200 calories a day for now and then i will up then to 1500 calories, i really don't want to gain any uneven fat anywhere, do you think i should change from drinking skimmed milk to full fat milk and to use oils and butter in cooking if i need to gain weight the healthy way with the least fat possible? or shall i stick to low fat and skim milk etc...
  • thanks, i'm on 1100-1200 calories a day for now and then i will up then to 1500 calories, i really don't want to gain any uneven fat anywhere, do you think i should change from drinking skimmed milk to full fat milk and should i use oils and butter in cooking if i need to gain weight the healthy way with the least fat possible? or shall i stick to low fat and skim milk, and not use oils and butter and get my calories another way?etc..
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    If you're recovering from an eating disorder you need to be careful in doing this. Can you see a doctor or nutritionist to help you?
    btw congratulations on your strength for fighting this =)

    Just take it in your stride, even if it's something you slowly have to work up to. Increase by 100 each 4 days or a week.
    thanks, i'm on 1100-1200 calories a day for now and then i will up then to 1500 calories, i really don't want to gain any uneven fat anywhere, do you think i should change from drinking skimmed milk to full fat milk and to use oils and butter in cooking if i need to gain weight the healthy way with the least fat possible? or shall i stick to low fat and skim milk etc...

    I finally got your issue and why you keep asking.

    You think that eating fat makes you fat. So wrong.

    Eating excess calories - which you need to do, of any sort, is going to make you fat, which you need.

    If you ate a diet of lots of fat and decent amount of protein, like the Inuit studies showed, you don't gain fat if you are active enough like the fishermen.

    Everything in excess is turned into fat and stored.

    And those fats aren't bad. Trans fats, hydrogenated fats, ect, are the ones to avoid.
  • ordnaj3la1
    ordnaj3la1 Posts: 49 Member
    If you are trying to gain healthy weight, you have to eat in a caloric surplus. Multiply your weight by 14, since you're a woman, and the number you get should be your maintenance calories. Now, add another 200-500 calories to that number. With 500 added calories, you can gain a pound per week. If you want it to be less, lower your surplus, but it shouldn't get any lower than 200.

    Now, in order to get more calories in, try mixing your foods with healthy fats. Cook some eggs with extra-virgin olive oil, add some avocados to your dishes, eat some nuts, seeds, almonds. All these are great fats that can easily add calories to your diet. An example could be:

    3 eggs cooked with extra-virgin olive oil, you could add some cheese to it, whole wheat bread, and a glass of whole milk.

    You could snack on some Almonds, Peanuts, any type of nuts really. Protein bars are good as well. Or, I love having this, a peanut butter sandwich, make sure the peanut butter is all natural and use whole grain/wheat bread.

    A turkey burger! Some lean turkey, make some fries with sweet potatoes, you could add some turkey bacon, cheese, it's really delicious!

    Oatmeal with peanut/almond butter. That is way too good, you'll love it.

    Chicken pizza. So so good. Use whole wheat pitas as the crust, add some sauce, I use tomato paste. Some cheese, chicken as a topping or anything else you'd like like turkey pepperoni or bacon, be creative with it. Good luck!

    thankyou, iwill be doing this and will it be okay if i eat a chapatti and curry/lentil/daal/ndian dish for lunch everyday as they are higher in calories but they are also high in fat..

    should i be using wholewheat flour to make the flatbreads or normal white, because if i use the normal white flour then my insulin levels will shoot up but if not then they won't, i want to up my calories in the healthiest way possible and gain very little fat while doing so..
    so will i gain little fat while eating one chapatti a day with a indian dish that my mum makes?

    Yeah, whole wheat flour is much better to use for the exact reason that you made, won't make your insulin levels go up. Eating chapatti shouldn't be so bad, it depends on the ingredients it has. Don't be afraid of fats, be afraid of saturated and trans fats. Try to get less than or equal to 10% of your calories from saturated fats, and try to avoid trans fats completely.
    Chapatti in moderation, and you should be fine. Good luck! :) Let me know how your progress is going, if you ever need more help, I'm always here!
  • If you are trying to gain healthy weight, you have to eat in a caloric surplus. Multiply your weight by 14, since you're a woman, and the number you get should be your maintenance calories. Now, add another 200-500 calories to that number. With 500 added calories, you can gain a pound per week. If you want it to be less, lower your surplus, but it shouldn't get any lower than 200.

    Now, in order to get more calories in, try mixing your foods with healthy fats. Cook some eggs with extra-virgin olive oil, add some avocados to your dishes, eat some nuts, seeds, almonds. All these are great fats that can easily add calories to your diet. An example could be:

    3 eggs cooked with extra-virgin olive oil, you could add some cheese to it, whole wheat bread, and a glass of whole milk.

    You could snack on some Almonds, Peanuts, any type of nuts really. Protein bars are good as well. Or, I love having this, a peanut butter sandwich, make sure the peanut butter is all natural and use whole grain/wheat bread.

    A turkey burger! Some lean turkey, make some fries with sweet potatoes, you could add some turkey bacon, cheese, it's really delicious!

    Oatmeal with peanut/almond butter. That is way too good, you'll love it.

    Chicken pizza. So so good. Use whole wheat pitas as the crust, add some sauce, I use tomato paste. Some cheese, chicken as a topping or anything else you'd like like turkey pepperoni or bacon, be creative with it. Good luck!

    thankyou, iwill be doing this and will it be okay if i eat a chapatti and curry/lentil/daal/ndian dish for lunch everyday as they are higher in calories but they are also high in fat..

    should i be using wholewheat flour to make the flatbreads or normal white, because if i use the normal white flour then my insulin levels will shoot up but if not then they won't, i want to up my calories in the healthiest way possible and gain very little fat while doing so..
    so will i gain little fat while eating one chapatti a day with a indian dish that my mum makes?

    Yeah, whole wheat flour is much better to use for the exact reason that you made, won't make your insulin levels go up. Eating chapatti shouldn't be so bad, it depends on the ingredients it has. Don't be afraid of fats, be afraid of saturated and trans fats. Try to get less than or equal to 10% of your calories from saturated fats, and try to avoid trans fats completely.
    Chapatti in moderation, and you should be fine. Good luck! :) Let me know how your progress is going, if you ever need more help, I'm always here!
    thank you so much for saying you'll be here for me, it means alot, i am trying my hardest to get around eating more thinking i'll be okay but the thing is i want to eat properly and eat my mums food and be happy but i don't want to gain any fat or jiggly wobbly areas anywhere, i want my belly to be flat so shall i exercise on here like crunches or sit ups and my thighs.. shall i do side leg lifts and squats?:/ btw my mum puts butter in the indian dishes she makes, is this okay if i eat it once a day with wholewheat chapatti?
  • thank you so much for saying you'll be here for me, it means alot, i am trying my hardest to get around eating more thinking i'll be okay but the thing is i want to eat properly and eat my mums food and be happy but i don't want to gain any fat or jiggly wobbly areas anywhere, i want my belly to be flat so shall i exercise on here like crunches or sit ups and my thighs.. shall i do side leg lifts and squats?:/ btw my mum puts butter in the indian dishes she makes, is this okay if i eat it once a day with wholewheat chapatti?
  • thank you so much for saying you'll be here for me, it means alot, i am trying my hardest to get around eating more thinking i'll be okay but the thing is i want to eat properly and eat my mums food and be happy but i don't want to gain any fat or jiggly wobbly areas anywhere, i want my belly to be flat so shall i exercise on here like crunches or sit ups and my thighs.. shall i do side leg lifts and squats?:/ btw my mum puts butter in the indian dishes she makes, is this okay if i eat it once a day with wholewheat chapatti?

    You have to stop worrying so much about "jiggly wobbly areas" and gaining fat. Everyone has fat. You can have fat and have a flat belly.

    I know that eating disorders are as much mental as they are physical, but if you really want to get healthy, you need to overcome your fear of "jiggly wobbly" parts. Everyone has those. Just because you have fat, it doesn't mean you're fat.

    I am sincerely glad that you are acknowledging your ED, though. Good luck. If you want to add me you can, and if you need to talk I'll listen.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    Why do you keep repeating your questions that people have already answered? Argh!!!!!!! Go back and re-read what people have said ok?
  • i just want to make sure i gain weight the healthiest way, should i be using full fat things and using lurpak butter in cooking?
  • ordnaj3la1
    ordnaj3la1 Posts: 49 Member
    If you are trying to gain healthy weight, you have to eat in a caloric surplus. Multiply your weight by 14, since you're a woman, and the number you get should be your maintenance calories. Now, add another 200-500 calories to that number. With 500 added calories, you can gain a pound per week. If you want it to be less, lower your surplus, but it shouldn't get any lower than 200.

    Now, in order to get more calories in, try mixing your foods with healthy fats. Cook some eggs with extra-virgin olive oil, add some avocados to your dishes, eat some nuts, seeds, almonds. All these are great fats that can easily add calories to your diet. An example could be:

    3 eggs cooked with extra-virgin olive oil, you could add some cheese to it, whole wheat bread, and a glass of whole milk.

    You could snack on some Almonds, Peanuts, any type of nuts really. Protein bars are good as well. Or, I love having this, a peanut butter sandwich, make sure the peanut butter is all natural and use whole grain/wheat bread.

    A turkey burger! Some lean turkey, make some fries with sweet potatoes, you could add some turkey bacon, cheese, it's really delicious!

    Oatmeal with peanut/almond butter. That is way too good, you'll love it.

    Chicken pizza. So so good. Use whole wheat pitas as the crust, add some sauce, I use tomato paste. Some cheese, chicken as a topping or anything else you'd like like turkey pepperoni or bacon, be creative with it. Good luck!

    thankyou, iwill be doing this and will it be okay if i eat a chapatti and curry/lentil/daal/ndian dish for lunch everyday as they are higher in calories but they are also high in fat..

    should i be using wholewheat flour to make the flatbreads or normal white, because if i use the normal white flour then my insulin levels will shoot up but if not then they won't, i want to up my calories in the healthiest way possible and gain very little fat while doing so..
    so will i gain little fat while eating one chapatti a day with a indian dish that my mum makes?

    Yeah, whole wheat flour is much better to use for the exact reason that you made, won't make your insulin levels go up. Eating chapatti shouldn't be so bad, it depends on the ingredients it has. Don't be afraid of fats, be afraid of saturated and trans fats. Try to get less than or equal to 10% of your calories from saturated fats, and try to avoid trans fats completely.
    Chapatti in moderation, and you should be fine. Good luck! :) Let me know how your progress is going, if you ever need more help, I'm always here!
    thank you so much for saying you'll be here for me, it means alot, i am trying my hardest to get around eating more thinking i'll be okay but the thing is i want to eat properly and eat my mums food and be happy but i don't want to gain any fat or jiggly wobbly areas anywhere, i want my belly to be flat so shall i exercise on here like crunches or sit ups and my thighs.. shall i do side leg lifts and squats?:/ btw my mum puts butter in the indian dishes she makes, is this okay if i eat it once a day with wholewheat chapatti?

    I would say if you can, ask her everything she adds to the recipe and save it as a recipe in here, then you can track what you'll be eating. Exercise is great, you can really tone up your stomach and the rest of your body which would look so much nicer. I would say go for it, healthier lifestyle (y)
  • If you are trying to gain healthy weight, you have to eat in a caloric surplus. Multiply your weight by 14, since you're a woman, and the number you get should be your maintenance calories. Now, add another 200-500 calories to that number. With 500 added calories, you can gain a pound per week. If you want it to be less, lower your surplus, but it shouldn't get any lower than 200.

    Now, in order to get more calories in, try mixing your foods with healthy fats. Cook some eggs with extra-virgin olive oil, add some avocados to your dishes, eat some nuts, seeds, almonds. All these are great fats that can easily add calories to your diet. An example could be:

    3 eggs cooked with extra-virgin olive oil, you could add some cheese to it, whole wheat bread, and a glass of whole milk.

    You could snack on some Almonds, Peanuts, any type of nuts really. Protein bars are good as well. Or, I love having this, a peanut butter sandwich, make sure the peanut butter is all natural and use whole grain/wheat bread.

    A turkey burger! Some lean turkey, make some fries with sweet potatoes, you could add some turkey bacon, cheese, it's really delicious!

    Oatmeal with peanut/almond butter. That is way too good, you'll love it.

    Chicken pizza. So so good. Use whole wheat pitas as the crust, add some sauce, I use tomato paste. Some cheese, chicken as a topping or anything else you'd like like turkey pepperoni or bacon, be creative with it. Good luck!

    thankyou, iwill be doing this and will it be okay if i eat a chapatti and curry/lentil/daal/ndian dish for lunch everyday as they are higher in calories but they are also high in fat..

    should i be using wholewheat flour to make the flatbreads or normal white, because if i use the normal white flour then my insulin levels will shoot up but if not then they won't, i want to up my calories in the healthiest way possible and gain very little fat while doing so..
    so will i gain little fat while eating one chapatti a day with a indian dish that my mum makes?

    Yeah, whole wheat flour is much better to use for the exact reason that you made, won't make your insulin levels go up. Eating chapatti shouldn't be so bad, it depends on the ingredients it has. Don't be afraid of fats, be afraid of saturated and trans fats. Try to get less than or equal to 10% of your calories from saturated fats, and try to avoid trans fats completely.
    Chapatti in moderation, and you should be fine. Good luck! :) Let me know how your progress is going, if you ever need more help, I'm always here!
    thank you so much for saying you'll be here for me, it means alot, i am trying my hardest to get around eating more thinking i'll be okay but the thing is i want to eat properly and eat my mums food and be happy but i don't want to gain any fat or jiggly wobbly areas anywhere, i want my belly to be flat so shall i exercise on here like crunches or sit ups and my thighs.. shall i do side leg lifts and squats?:/ btw my mum puts butter in the indian dishes she makes, is this okay if i eat it once a day with wholewheat chapatti?

    I would say if you can, ask her everything she adds to the recipe and save it as a recipe in here, then you can track what you'll be eating. Exercise is great, you can really tone up your stomach and the rest of your body which would look so much nicer. I would say go for it, healthier lifestyle (y)
    thank you again, i appreciate this very much, i asked my mum and she puts butter in, it varys in the different dishes..
    the chapatti is just brown wholewheat flour mixed with water but the indian dishes are all cooked with butter, sometimes she uses half a block of butter or sometimes more.. this dish is for a family of seven and lasts upto 2-3 days so basically we will be only getting a bit of butter, will this make me fat and untoned?:/
  • chocolatecroissant
    chocolatecroissant Posts: 155 Member
    Please seek professional help for your eating disorder. The advice given on this thread is sound but you are only listening to a fraction of it. You have taken the first step in recognising that you have an eating disorder. The next step is to get some professional help. Addressing your unhealthy relationship with your body is absolutely central to recovery. Food and exercise are important but only one part of the equation. I don't know your area but I'd search for eating disorder specialists - psychologists and medical practitioners - to help you through this. Good luck.
  • BohemianCoast
    BohemianCoast Posts: 349 Member
    Sweetheart, butter is fine for you. Your mum's cooking sounds great too, and of course you can eat delicious food that someone else has made for you. It's the nicest food of all. If it helps, you can count up the calories in the recipes your mum uses and then add them as recipes in your MFP profile so you can just add a portion when you need to.

    It's normal for your tummy to stick out a bit after you eat; that's fine too.

    Like everyone else, I think you would find all this easier if you had some professional support to help you.
  • lilac_bunny
    lilac_bunny Posts: 137 Member
    I think you need to re-read this thread and see how many questions you have repeated after ignoring good advice that you were given. This may help you see what we see.

    You need to gain weight. You may get 'Jiggy Fat' as you call it, the way to correct that it through building muscle mass, but you HAVE to have the calories first, and if it turns in to fat then you can complete targeted exercise. Weights will help increase your BONE mass which will make to healthier and increase your weight without increasing body fat.

    Yoga or pilates are excellent forms of low cardio exercise that increase muscle tone and strength and help mould the body, BUT you have to have the calories there to be turned in to muscle and to be moulded.

    Finally, every body needs a certain amount of subcutanious fat. You will have to accept that regardless of how careful you are to exercise and gain muscle rather than fat, in order to be healthy, you NEED to gain some some fat.
  • Echoing all of the voices here encouraging you on this journey that it will go much better for you with some mental health support. No one is saying you are crazy, it's just that getting that support from professionals can make the journey so much better. As I've read your posts, I keep thinking how I hope you will come to love yourself, your womanly body that may indeed get some jiggly fat on it at some point in your life -- and that's not only okay, it's beautiful! We are meant to have some extra in order to support our hormonal system, and then eventually, at the right time, to have a family, and to protect ourselves from illness and such.

    I'm getting that kind of support coming from the other end of the spectrum, being very overweight and working on losing weight. I can say from experience it makes all the difference! :-)

    I think this whole thing, whether coming from anorexia or obesity, is about getting healthy and learning to love ourselves and take good care of our bodies so we can do the other things we want to in life. It's about feeling good in our own skin, even on the way to our goals.

    I wish for you a long and healthy life, and being able to love and appreciate the body God blessed you with, and take loving and careful care of it.