Does being overweight/obese make it harder to find a job?

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  • pkw58
    pkw58 Posts: 2,038 Member
    well, with the % being thrown out as to those of us who are or have been obese or overweight, employers better get over it.

    I finally left my old company in October after I lost my exess weight. I had a lot more confidence. Wished I had lost the weight (and the old company) years ago.
  • TheRightWeigh
    TheRightWeigh Posts: 249 Member
    Yes, it does matter, although in a perfect world it shouldn't. There are stereotypes associated with obesity, just like there are with race/gender. there have been studies done that show the taller you are, the more income you will accumulate in your lifetime....

    ^^^^^ REALLY?? I'm 6'3''- 6'4''Maybe that will negate my super-obesity! Well if I was going to stay super-obese anyway....

    I had an employer hire me because I "showed well". He said that the fact that I was dressed nicely and carried myself the way well got me the job. He was impressed because he perceived that bigger people seem to usually be...well...sloppy. This employer is a friend now...and has moved to a different company, that's why it was appropriate to have this conversation. I absolutely agree with the person I quoted about the stereotypes associated with obesity. I am obese and I work in corporate America and I know it's an issue that I have to combat. Thank God I "show well" I suppose.
  • sunsnstatheart
    sunsnstatheart Posts: 2,544 Member
    For me it was the opposite. A former boss actually told me that he decided to hire me before we even sat down to talk because I was big, because to him that meant I had not social life so I must have dedicated my time in my studies and work.

    Wow, that's awful!

    My first boss out of law school told my wife at our introductory cocktail party that he preferred single employees because they weren't distracted with things outside of the office.

    I think there are a lot of factors in play right now. Not sure why obesity would instantly come to mind when the unemployment rate is as high as it is.
  • Heather1899
    Heather1899 Posts: 179 Member
    It certainly shouldn't, but no doubt, it does.

    How many high profile CEO's do you see that are overweight?

    Answer, not alot.

    Actually I haven't worked many places in my life, but all of the high office guys in my office are pretty big. I am not sure if it is how they eat or that they are sedentary in an office?

    When I was going for teaching in college, one of my professors told me he had hired teachers before (he was once a principal) and he would not have hired me because I am obese. He said if he was interviewing two people of the same values on paper, but one was obese and one was not, he would hire the one of normal weight.

    I am just a receptionist now...but I just don't know how I would manage to do my job if I weighed more. I find that now I am smaller I have more energy and the running about the office doesn't bother me as much-most days. Of course there are days I just wish I could lay down and sleep...but if I were still obese I think it would be a challenge.
  • Being that my profession is in the staffing and recruiting industry I can honestly say that I have seen things like obesity and image get in the way of some candidates obtaining a job. Personally, as a recruiter, if a candidate is technically qualified, presentable and has good communication skills I never hesitate to submit them to clients. However, I have seen in very few cases that in some company cultures and industries, unfortunately, it is something that certain hiring managers and companies have a bias towards- be it intentional or not. That being said- it is a very competitive market right now- regardless of the way that you look and the majority of companies that are looking for qualified individuals are going to be happier investing in someone who is qualified for the position as opposed to someone who is skinny and less qualified.
  • acogg
    acogg Posts: 1,870 Member
    I'm sure this won't win me any friends, but the truth is fat people are seen as lazy, unmotivated and lacking self-discipline. Plus, there are issues of health insurance costs and more missed work due to bad knees, etc.
  • keem88
    keem88 Posts: 1,689 Member
    it shouldn't be that way, but sadly many interviewers make judgements based on things like size, gender, race, sexulaity. im sure your friend is a hard worker and qualified, but some people may see her as obese and think, oh she's overweight so she must be lazy. it's a shame but i'm sure it happens all the time.
  • verdancyhime
    verdancyhime Posts: 237 Member
    Sadly, race, aesthetic (including weight), gender, age, and disability have all been shown to influence employment and salary stats, all else being equal. We must do the best we can with what we have personally and change the system to remove prejudice against factors that have no necessary causal connection to stellar performance.

    This. I'm currently working on a paper about how makeup and wardrobe can even strongly affect this. Studies have shown that attractive people are perceived as nicer, more competent, and more intelligent than average people. Weight in the west is also a class issue, and people who are born into working class families are less likely to get the job than people of middle or upper class families. Wardrobe, makeup, etc. is a factor, so is the fact that the corporate world is arranged by middle class people and carries many of their values, which can make it difficult for working class people to learn to navigate certain essentials like networking and company politics.

    The upside is that everyone has different built in prejudices. I've had jobs where nearly all the employees were obviously overweight adult females. It doesn't have to be a dealbreaker. You never know why someone picks a candidate, often if the skills and pay expectations are the same it comes down to people's gut feelings about a person or really weird little things, and the job market is tough right now, with a lot of people for every open position. It's a numbers game and the best thing to do is keep trying.
  • keem88
    keem88 Posts: 1,689 Member
    I'm sure this won't win me any friends, but the truth is fat people are seen as lazy, unmotivated and lacking self-discipline. Plus, there are issues of health insurance costs and more missed work due to bad knees, etc.

    yes this too, i didn't even think of the health insurance part. it is true, a large steretype is that obese people are lazy and unmotivated. i hate to agree, but people i know from college or that i worked with, the overweight ones were, well lazy and unmotivated...not to say that thin people aren't either.
  • keem88
    keem88 Posts: 1,689 Member
    In our society being in shape is absolutely looked at favorably when job hunting. Gripe all you want, it is what it is. Play the game or not, it's your choice. (This applies ESPECIALLY to outside sales positions, hence all the barbie-doll sales scum)

    true. i did marketing once and they pretty much hired anyone, but i did notice that people who were working there were all average size, the females were all pretty and the males were deff not over weight. we did in store marketing and door to door, so i guess they were looking for people who looked "fit" granted, a lot of those people who looked "fit" would sleep in their car all day instead of going door to door, so i'm sure someone overweight would have done the same or better job as them
  • Mlkmaid
    Mlkmaid Posts: 356 Member
    Yes, of course it's part of the problem. First impressions count and there are negative ideas attached to obesity. Many are untrue but everyone judges a book by its cover, even though they may claim differently. And many employers won't hire obese people because of the health insurance ramifications. Still others may not want an obese person representing their brand or product(s). And they've done studies that show that attractive people not only get jobs more easily but they also make more money long-term.
  • It really shouldn't matter, but I do believe that if your overweight, employers see that as a negative. I am in the same boat. i am unemployed and been trying for months to find a job. ITs the economy, but also the being overweight has an effect for me too.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    depending on the field she is in, then definitely. fields like PR and sales are probably among the worse in terms of hiring overweight female candidates.

    but, what's important is that she have the necessary skills and present herself as the perfect candidate for the position that she wants and is interviewing for.

    we can't control other people's prejudices but we dont need to let they be an excuse for us to not do our best.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
    of course it does. plenty of jobs require a certain image and with everything else being somewhat equal its better to choose the fit/attractive person.
  • jnp96
    jnp96 Posts: 163
    It certainly does. Many people look at fat folks as lazy, slow, undependable, sloppy etc. Fair? No. Accurate? No, but first impressions do matter.
  • Bobby__Clerici
    Bobby__Clerici Posts: 741 Member
    of course it does. plenty of jobs require a certain image and with everything else being somewhat equal its better to choose the fit/attractive person.
    Very true...nature is cruel....:ohwell:
  • lorcart
    lorcart Posts: 406 Member
    Absolutely! In the past when I was overweight I had a very hard time getting a new job. I lost 100 lbs and BOOM! I had more job offers than you could shake a stick at. I changed jobs whenever i wanted a new one, no sweat. I gained weight, lost my job (nothing to do with the weight gain, I can honestly say that) and I was unemployed for quite some time.
    I think part of it was my appearance and another part I honestly just wasn't as confident in interviews.
  • missmegan831
    missmegan831 Posts: 824 Member
    It could be her weight or the jobs she is applying for. I am a self employed massage therapist and for the longest time I couldnt find work at spas/salons and one owner told me straight up and honest that I didnt carry my weight well enough to present myself to clients.. well piss off to him because now I'm my own boss...

    The economy is hard right now and I wish your friend all the best.
  • missmegan831
    missmegan831 Posts: 824 Member
    I'm sure this won't win me any friends, but the truth is fat people are seen as lazy, unmotivated and lacking self-discipline. Plus, there are issues of health insurance costs and more missed work due to bad knees, etc.

    ^^^^ Its sad to admit but this lady has a good point... society stereotypes people on image first whether it be race, dress, weight, beauty.. thats the first thing a potential employer sees is your body, before you even have a chance to open your mouth to start the interview.
  • Biggoal50
    Biggoal50 Posts: 33 Member
    I worked at a temp/recruitment agency for one year. Age and appearance matter. At the place I worked there was a code for discrimination. Fat people didn't have 'enough energy'. Old people were 'over qualified'. Ugly people weren't "front office'. It's horrible.Obese applicants need to compensate by being perfectly dressed and overly energetic/bubbly. Smile, smile, smile. Sad but true.
  • gtchs
    gtchs Posts: 116 Member
    I'd say yes.
  • Unfortunately yes. I have lots of experience with this one. Whether it's fair or not, our appearance translates into "credibility" to do a job well. The legal field is especially hard if you are going to be in the public eye (paralegal, criminal investigator, etc). My advice to you is not tell your friend she needs to lose weight but to encourage her to put her very best foot forward when going to an interview. Spend the extra money for a good hair cut, manicure, good shoes, and well fitting clothing. No perfume, please (gives the impression you're hiding bad hygiene) but tasteful makeup. And most of all, a good attitude with confidence and interest in the company you are applying to.
  • lcmix
    lcmix Posts: 2
    being overweight often screws up your confidence, and confidence is key to landing the job. this low confidence compounded with a judgmental society makes it extremely difficult for an obese person to build a career.
  • Iceman420
    Iceman420 Posts: 195
    I'm sure this won't win me any friends, but the truth is fat people are seen as lazy, unmotivated and lacking self-discipline. Plus, there are issues of health insurance costs and more missed work due to bad knees, etc.

    This is very true. I was able to get hired full time at this company, but I don't expect the same kindness from other companies. I'm going to get this weight off before I even think about looking for another job!