advice needed from strength training folk

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  • SillyFitMe
    SillyFitMe Posts: 130 Member
    Sunday - run
    Monday - P90X chest & back, AB Ripper
    Tues - Insanity
    Wed - P90X shoulders & arms, AB Ripper
    Thurs - Insanity
    Fri - P90X legs & back, AB Ripper
    Sat - rest, cheat, or low activity (elliptical)
  • FitbeTMF
    FitbeTMF Posts: 251
    I run every day. Rest day or not
  • FitbeTMF
    FitbeTMF Posts: 251
    Dang Dawn. You're hot!!
  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
    I am not hijacking the thread, or playing public defender. I am just sick of many people on here who immediately jump to conclusions and make assumptions about people, accusing them of having eating disorders, when there is no reason to do so.

    you are, right now. stahp.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    Maybe I'm blind, but I surely don't see any accusations of eating disorders in either of the posts where you called people out for being Eat More Nazis. If you had nothing else to offer to this thread than to slap the hand of people trying to help, why even comment?

    The OP needs to look into their diet AND add rest if they're looking to work on their body composition. Both of the replies were accurate. Other advice has been given to the effect of swapping out the elliptical for weights, etc. I don't recall either of the guys referring to the OP as a nazi.
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    Reread the observations of the second post,

    "1. If you're this obsessive about exercise, I suspect you're starving yourself crash dieting. "

    Other people did indeed come in afterwards with helpful suggestions, rather than simply making assumptions about the OP without cause. I offered some basic suggestions myself that might help her in her quest.

    And I didn't call the OP a nazi. Perhaps I was out of line using the term 'Eat More Nazi' which has been used by others on many occasion to refer to the people who immediately tell people they need to eat more. Most often times when they have no idea as to how much the person is indeed eating, or what their dietary needs are. This is a self-righteous mentality by many people who assume to be experts on everyone else's nutritional needs, and insist they everyone must do exactly the same thing that they do.

    Since the OP posted her workout schedule, then advice that she needs a rest day were appropriate. Since she did not mention her calorie intake, nor does she have an open food diary, then assumptions that she is 'starving herself' were out of line.

    Fortunately there were many people after the first posters, who put some thought into their posts and offered advice to answer the OP's questions, without making assumptions and accusations.
  • FluffyDogsRule
    FluffyDogsRule Posts: 366 Member
    Wow! Thanks so much for the replies! I'm a teacher...I posted the original post before classes started and this is the first chance I've had to check on replies! I'll be back again later for more reading.

    I can absolutely add in a rest day. I do not have a ED and I LOVE to eat, so no worries there. :)

    I work at a middle school, so I don't think the kettle bells are very heavy, but I will check after my classes today and let you all know.

    My goals, since someone asked and that does seem important, are to continue to get stronger and make my body look better. I'm thin enough but I need more muscle in my legs.

    Just off of my quick read and thoughts, I think I will try to...

    2xs week - insanity
    2xs week - run
    2xs week - kettlebells (or whatever turns out to be best in workout room

    OR...are you saying insanity was helpful as a "jump start" but isn't healthy or beneficial for me to use long-term?? i have nothing against dropping it if you all think it's time for me to move on.

    thanks again!! i'll be back after my other classes! :)

    I
  • FluffyDogsRule
    FluffyDogsRule Posts: 366 Member
    ooh, great and exciting news! my husband says he bought some free weights and a benchpress off craigslist, so i will have some equipment at home!

    gonna try MWF - weights
    Th/Sun - run

    that leaves 2 rest days...haha...hope i can manage that. that will be new for me. :) i'll do abs on those days and take a walk or something so i don't feel blah.

    so you're sure i don't need to cut my calories back since i'll be decreasing (pretty dramatically) my cardio? i average 1800 a day.

    i'm going to check out the counter that dan recommended and some of your links. i'm sure this won't be the last of me, though...probably will have more questions as I go. thanks so much for your help!!!

    ps...notice how quickly i was willing to drop insanity from the schedule?? lol.
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
    Now just tell him to buy a power rack and then look at this ;)

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/686963-large-collection-of-info-for-beginners
  • happy_jmavin
    happy_jmavin Posts: 8
    I have heard of a book called Your Body is a Gym? or something like that.

    Debbie, you are thinking of "You Are Your Own Gym" which I believe also has an app, as well as a book and focusses on bodyweight execises with minimal equipment for strength training.

    Since you have access to some weights, try these workouts: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/dumbbell-only-home-or-gym-fullbody-workout.html And I agree with everyone else about taking rest days.
  • Trainypooh
    Trainypooh Posts: 22 Member
    hello! here's my current workout schedule...

    Mon - 30 min elliptical
    Tues - Insanity max circuit
    Wed - Insanity max cardio
    Thur - 4 mile run
    Fri - 30 min elliptical
    Sat - Insanity max plyo
    Sun- 4 mile run

    I am now able to do the Insanity max workouts (month 2) all the way through at the same speed as the actors...I used to be sore afterwards, now my muscles feel fatigued the next day, but not sore. I gained about 3 pounds of muscle with Insanity, so it was a great method for muscle for a newbie like me.

    But I think that to change my body any further, I need to add more strength training in. I'm thinking I should replace the elliptical?? Both days?? One of the days?? I can control my weight with diet, so I'm not worried about dropping some cardio.

    Here's where I really need advice. I don't belong to a gym and can't afford to, but my work has an exercise room with kettle bells and small weights. Would that be enough to get me started twice a week? Or should I invest in my own barbell set at home?

    Also, I plan to google/you tube some 30 - 40 minute strength workouts, but any good ones you recommend? I want the best workout for the time I have.

    And any other advice you can give me is wonderful.

    Thanks so much for your help!
    Kate

    Incorporate crossfit movements. http://www.wodshop.org/

    Click on the WOD tab, then the kettlebells tab. Yoiu can cycle through workouts with this website. short workouts that are intense. Crossfit is an amazing movement for functional strength. Should get you jacked in no time :)

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