Bread with most meals of the day and for a snack?

Is eating whole wheat breads with lunch and dinner bad? And oatmeal for breakfast? Sometimes I have bread with lunch dinner and use a whole wheat wrap with something small inside for a snack, especially when times are rough with money. I just find things that aren't too big to snack on and make sure I'm getting some healthy things with it, even if that means more peanut butter even though I had it with breakfast.

For example, for a snack or a very light lunch, I'll take a whole wheat wrap, tblsp 1/2 of natural peanut butter, tblsp 1/2 of pure unsweetened cacao powder, one packet of Stevia or a tsp of honey and mix that all together with warm water till it becomes spreadable (looks like Nutella) and I put it in the wrap. Or sometimes I'll eat the PB and cacao mix in a tiny bowl to tide me over. Really yummy.

But I try to replace one of my meals with looks of mixed veggies if I have them in the freezer instead of bread. But some days are just tough so breads is all we have sometimes to go with other things.

Edit: Or for dinner we have whole wheat pasta, sometimes.

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  • I find when i eat bread and pasta i end up having bad cravings for sweets so i try to eat very little of that....That is just how it works for me... :)
  • BarackMeLikeAHurricane
    BarackMeLikeAHurricane Posts: 3,400 Member
    IIFYM, do it.
  • sam308lbs
    sam308lbs Posts: 1,936 Member
    I find when i eat bread and pasta i end up having bad cravings for sweets so i try to eat very little of that....That is just how it works for me... :)


    same for me!
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    I find when i eat bread and pasta i end up having bad cravings for sweets so i try to eat very little of that....That is just how it works for me... :)


    same for me!

    Never heard of that before. I'd like to listen to my body more after consuming a certain amount myself.....to see if I end up craving sweets. Never really noticed before if I have after eating a certain amount of carbs.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    No it's not bad.

    Now if you're consuming so much bread that you're pushing out more nutrient dense carb choices from your diet, it could be bad.
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    No it's not bad.

    Now if you're consuming so much bread that you're pushing out more nutrient dense carb choices from your diet, it could be bad.

    Well like I stated, I try to have more veggies with meals, but some days I can't. Or some fruit. Times a rough and we always have at least bread in the house. At least it's whole wheat or whole grain anyways...lol
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
    This actually doesn't sound like that much bread to me at all.

    First of all, oatmeal is not bread. A whole wheat wrap is barely bread. And whole wheat pasta is a good fiber-rich choice as well. As long as these items fit in your calorie goals, it should be fine. :smile: As far as the carbs go, some people prefer going low carb and might think the items you listed are 'too much'.

    Personally... I consumed about 50% of my calories from carbs the entire time I was actively losing weight, and I did not completely cut out simple/white carbs either. While high protein diets work well for some people. I have found that I feel better/run better when I focus on a carb-rich diet. I lost 66 pounds easily and have maintained that loss for almost eight months.
  • amyllu
    amyllu Posts: 432 Member
    No it's not bad.

    Now if you're consuming so much bread that you're pushing out more nutrient dense carb choices from your diet, it could be bad.

    Well like I stated, I try to have more veggies with meals, but some days I can't. Or some fruit. Times a rough and we always have at least bread in the house. At least it's whole wheat or whole grain anyways...lol

    I'm a bread-a-holic too! ..:smile: If I don't have porridge for breakfast it's often something with toast. The only meal I don't have bread is with my dinner in the evening ..and I don't eat potatoes. Then I often have some Crackerbreads with cheese spread for supper. I know these use up a lot of calories in the day but just couldn't go without a bit of bread of some sort. I do eat at least two lots of fruit and two veg every day so I feel at least I am doing something right.
  • linbert57
    linbert57 Posts: 154 Member
    I gave up wheat products a couple of weeks before Christmas. I read "Wheat Belly" by Dr, William Davis and he advises to give up wheat because how it is now genetically modified (super dwarf) and no longer the amber waves of grain from my childhood. It causes tremendous blood spikes - the glycemic index of whole wheat bread (72) is higher than table sugar (59). It constantly makes you crave more food. Contributes to all types of medical issues including inflammation, intestinal diseases, skin conditions. I feel so much better that I have removed it from my diet.
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    I gave up wheat products a couple of weeks before Christmas. I read "Wheat Belly" by Dr, William Davis and he advises to give up wheat because how it is now genetically modified (super dwarf) and no longer the amber waves of grain from my childhood. It causes tremendous blood spikes - the glycemic index of whole wheat bread (72) is higher than table sugar (59). It constantly makes you crave more food. Contributes to all types of medical issues including inflammation, intestinal diseases, skin conditions. I feel so much better that I have removed it from my diet.

    I don't believe it works for everyone since everyone is different. I wouldn't give it up myself. but if it works for you.
  • HypersonicFitNess
    HypersonicFitNess Posts: 1,219 Member
    Try making your breakfast 1/2 fruit or veg and your lunch and dinner 1/2 veg

    I try to eat less bread then anything but then it tends to make me crave more bread and sweets (causing me to overeat or get too much sugar)

    You mention wheat bread but how much fiber is in this wheat bread? 1 gram? 2 grams? It should have 4 or more grams per slice and how many calories? 100? 50?

    EDIT: I do have a gluten free hot cereal or high fiber steel cut oats a couple times a week and sometimes I have a slice of toast with eggs and spinach, tomatoes, etc for breakfast. A lot of times I have a green smoothie (you can check out my diary; though I'm not perfect)
  • basillowe66
    basillowe66 Posts: 432 Member
    I have 2 slices of whole grain 35 cal toast in the am and a sandwich for lunch, same bread
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    I gave up wheat products a couple of weeks before Christmas. I read "Wheat Belly" by Dr, William Davis and he advises to give up wheat because how it is now genetically modified (super dwarf) and no longer the amber waves of grain from my childhood. It causes tremendous blood spikes - the glycemic index of whole wheat bread (72) is higher than table sugar (59). It constantly makes you crave more food. Contributes to all types of medical issues including inflammation, intestinal diseases, skin conditions. I feel so much better that I have removed it from my diet.

    This doesn't apply to everyone, I am a type 2 diabetic that 42 months ago weighed 560 lbs. I eat 2 loaves of Sara Lee 45 calorie a slice Wheat or Multigrain bread every week (Just had 4 pieces of toast this morning with Peanut butter and honey), I have two scoop of pure cane sugar in my morning coffee also every morning. And have managed to lose a few pounds, unless you have a medical condition that would prohibit you from eating grains then this model doesn't not fit the majority. You need to eat a well rounded diet which can include grains... Best of Luck
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    No it's not bad.

    Now if you're consuming so much bread that you're pushing out more nutrient dense carb choices from your diet, it could be bad.

    Well like I stated, I try to have more veggies with meals, but some days I can't. Or some fruit. Times a rough and we always have at least bread in the house. At least it's whole wheat or whole grain anyways...lol

    What sidesteel said. If times are rough and money is an issue, sprout your own seeds/beans for extra greens or grow chives/onion etc
  • SGT_Reg
    SGT_Reg Posts: 186 Member
    I gave up wheat products a couple of weeks before Christmas. I read "Wheat Belly" by Dr, William Davis and he advises to give up wheat because how it is now genetically modified (super dwarf) and no longer the amber waves of grain from my childhood. It causes tremendous blood spikes - the glycemic index of whole wheat bread (72) is higher than table sugar (59). It constantly makes you crave more food. Contributes to all types of medical issues including inflammation, intestinal diseases, skin conditions. I feel so much better that I have removed it from my diet.

    Let me guess, DR Oz promoted this book on his show? Yes, of course he did. I was waiting for this to surface in these forums.

    Shenanigans
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    I gave up wheat products a couple of weeks before Christmas. I read "Wheat Belly" by Dr, William Davis and he advises to give up wheat because how it is now genetically modified (super dwarf) and no longer the amber waves of grain from my childhood. It causes tremendous blood spikes - the glycemic index of whole wheat bread (72) is higher than table sugar (59). It constantly makes you crave more food. Contributes to all types of medical issues including inflammation, intestinal diseases, skin conditions. I feel so much better that I have removed it from my diet.

    Let me guess, DR Oz promoted this book on his show? Yes, of course he did. I was waiting for this to surface in these forums.

    Shenanigans

    I love that word.....Shenanigans... lol
  • ErinRibbens
    ErinRibbens Posts: 370 Member
    Sounds like it's working for you so I wouldn't worry. It might be tough to build muscle if you aren't getting more protein, but other than that I don't there's anything wrong with it.
  • BlackTimber
    BlackTimber Posts: 230 Member
    I gave up wheat products a couple of weeks before Christmas. I read "Wheat Belly" by Dr, William Davis and he advises to give up wheat because how it is now genetically modified (super dwarf) and no longer the amber waves of grain from my childhood. It causes tremendous blood spikes - the glycemic index of whole wheat bread (72) is higher than table sugar (59). It constantly makes you crave more food. Contributes to all types of medical issues including inflammation, intestinal diseases, skin conditions. I feel so much better that I have removed it from my diet.

    This doesn't apply to everyone, I am a type 2 diabetic that 42 months ago weighed 560 lbs. I eat 2 loaves of Sara Lee 45 calorie a slice Wheat or Multigrain bread every week (Just had 4 pieces of toast this morning with Peanut butter and honey), I have two scoop of pure cane sugar in my morning coffee also every morning. And have managed to lose a few pounds, unless you have a medical condition that would prohibit you from eating grains then this model doesn't not fit the majority. You need to eat a well rounded diet which can include grains... Best of Luck

    What you have done is absolutely amazing, you look fantastic. My understanding of the wheat issue is that 1% of the population has diagnosed and/or un-diagnosed celiac. ~ 30% of the population has some gluten sensitivity. I am not sensitive myself but I know of many that are. I am at my goal weight and do not eat very much sugar or wheat. When I do eat something unnaturally sweet it definitely affects me. I have large cravings for more food - any food. Back when I was eating anything I wanted I did not notice these cravings. They were probably there all the time, so I just didn't notice it.

    Now about your Type II. I know that no one knows your body better than you but wouldn't it make life easier for you if you started to reduce your carbohydrate intake a little. My daughter has been Type 1 for 5+ years and she has much better BG control with a little carb restriction.
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    I gave up wheat products a couple of weeks before Christmas. I read "Wheat Belly" by Dr, William Davis and he advises to give up wheat because how it is now genetically modified (super dwarf) and no longer the amber waves of grain from my childhood. It causes tremendous blood spikes - the glycemic index of whole wheat bread (72) is higher than table sugar (59). It constantly makes you crave more food. Contributes to all types of medical issues including inflammation, intestinal diseases, skin conditions. I feel so much better that I have removed it from my diet.

    This doesn't apply to everyone, I am a type 2 diabetic that 42 months ago weighed 560 lbs. I eat 2 loaves of Sara Lee 45 calorie a slice Wheat or Multigrain bread every week (Just had 4 pieces of toast this morning with Peanut butter and honey), I have two scoop of pure cane sugar in my morning coffee also every morning. And have managed to lose a few pounds, unless you have a medical condition that would prohibit you from eating grains then this model doesn't not fit the majority. You need to eat a well rounded diet which can include grains... Best of Luck

    What you have done is absolutely amazing, you look fantastic. My understanding of the wheat issue is that 1% of the population has diagnosed and/or un-diagnosed celiac. ~ 30% of the population has some gluten sensitivity. I am not sensitive myself but I know of many that are. I am at my goal weight and do not eat very much sugar or wheat. When I do eat something unnaturally sweet it definitely affects me. I have large cravings for more food - any food. Back when I was eating anything I wanted I did not notice these cravings. They were probably there all the time, so I just didn't notice it.

    Now about your Type II. I know that no one knows your body better than you but wouldn't it make life easier for you if you started to reduce your carbohydrate intake a little. My daughter has been Type 1 for 5+ years and she has much better BG control with a little carb restriction.

    For my particular case my weight was the main culprit behind my Diabetes and my Endo dr. said from the get go "lose the weight and the Diabetes will go into remission" my nutritionist from the very beginning never once utter the words "low carb" we set my carb intake at 240 grams a day (60 grams at main meals x3 and 20 grams at my snacks x3) this is where a kept my carbs for about 2 1/2 years and about 260 lbs. of my weight loss. My A1c went from 10.0 to 5.3 and have stand there the last 20 months and since I have been weight training I have upped my carb intake (12 months ago give or take) to around 300 grams a day and was checking my blood 4 times a day but my Endo doctor just changed that to once a day about 3 weeks ago. I know everyone is different and what works for one may not work for another but I have been under pretty close supervision over the last 42 months and between my Endo dr., my family doctor, my nutritionist, my therapist both mental and physical they all have told me not to change a thing because what I am doing is definitely working.... So no in my cause carb restriction (atleast as of right now) is not necessary in my case.... Best of Luck.....
  • GoddessG
    GoddessG Posts: 172 Member
    When I eat a slice of bread in the morning, I'm hungry for the rest of the day. If I eat a sandwich for lunch, I immediately need a nap and am sluggish and in a mental fog for the rest of the day. By dinner, I'm ravenous and over-eat.

    When I stick to my low LOW carb eating plan (under 10 carbs/day), I am never hungry (after the 2nd day). A slice of whole wheat bread is more than my entire daily allowance. I've learned that the penalties are so harsh that I'm willing to find alternatives that are just as satisfying.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    If it works with your macros and your other nutrition isn't suffering, it is not bad. Whole grain would have more nutritional value though.
  • umachanxo
    umachanxo Posts: 926 Member
    Well like I stated, I try to have more veggies with meals, but some days I can't. Or some fruit. Times a rough and we always have at least bread in the house. At least it's whole wheat or whole grain anyways...lol

    Whole grain has a lot more nutrients in it. It has the whole seed in the bread, whereas whole wheat loses a lot of its nutrients during the processing.

    Oatmeal sounds great in the morning!

    Use the money you're putting towards bread towards frozen fruits and vegetables. Pasta is pretty cheap, so I'd stick with some whole grain pasta and sauce.
  • Crayvn
    Crayvn Posts: 390 Member
    from looking at your diary your not going over your suggested carb macro amount...and some of it is from veggies..if your not having any problems with it then go with what works for you now :)
  • shanmackie
    shanmackie Posts: 194 Member
    I would say as long as it's whole grains and doesn't contain sugar as one of the first few ingredients, it's fine. Just make sure you're mixing it with a fat or a protein, like it seems you have been. :)
  • like_milk
    like_milk Posts: 79 Member
    There's nothing wrong with bread. As you can tell, you will hear a million stories of how bad bread makes people feel etc.

    Me? I eat bread and I never suffer from bloating, tiredness, sweet cravings. Actually, bread fills me up and is satisfying, I've always been a healthy weight, and I don't have a fat belly.

    I would try giving up bread if you really think it's a problem or making you unwell, but if you're only going to give it up because people say it's evil, then you might be doing so unnecessarily.
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    If it fits your macros, and doesn't cause you cravings or other problems, I don't see any problem with it. I don't eat a lot of bread myself, but enjoy it sometimes. What sets off cravings for me is high sugar...like going to my favorite cofffee shop and ordering one of their awesome scones. Delicious. But I feel out of control the rest of the day. Not worth it, very often.
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    If it works with your macros and your other nutrition isn't suffering, it is not bad. Whole grain would have more nutritional value though.

    I do both whole grain and whole wheat
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    Thank you, everyone :)
  • Firefox7275
    Firefox7275 Posts: 2,040 Member
    Is eating whole wheat breads with lunch and dinner bad? And oatmeal for breakfast? Sometimes I have bread with lunch dinner and use a whole wheat wrap with something small inside for a snack, especially when times are rough with money. I just find things that aren't too big to snack on and make sure I'm getting some healthy things with it, even if that means more peanut butter even though I had it with breakfast.

    For example, for a snack or a very light lunch, I'll take a whole wheat wrap, tblsp 1/2 of natural peanut butter, tblsp 1/2 of pure unsweetened cacao powder, one packet of Stevia or a tsp of honey and mix that all together with warm water till it becomes spreadable (looks like Nutella) and I put it in the wrap. Or sometimes I'll eat the PB and cacao mix in a tiny bowl to tide me over. Really yummy.

    But I try to replace one of my meals with looks of mixed veggies if I have them in the freezer instead of bread. But some days are just tough so breads is all we have sometimes to go with other things.

    Edit: Or for dinner we have whole wheat pasta, sometimes.

    Ideally no one food should be eaten multiple times a day, a key healthy eating guideline is to eat a wide variety of different foods, this is largely to ensure you get the full complement of nutrients. Easy, cheap and nutritious substitutes for wheat/ bread include canned beans and green lentils, dried red or yellow lentils (no soak), oats, pot barley or brown rice that you steam in bulk, freeze in portions and microwave with a splash of water to reheat. Even cheaper but more time consuming than canned are dried beans or green lentils (all do need soaking before boiling).

    Have you thought about pricing a ton of healthy foods up per 100g in a notebook or on your mobile phone? I did this and it was a real eye opener. Not sure about in the US but here in the UK wholegrain bread is no longer that cheap if you actually look at the price and the weight you are getting, there are cheaper carbs that you purchase dry and bulk up on cooking. Wraps are expensive here again if you look at the weight and price. It's cheaper if you make your own breads obviously.