Saying No to Grains, But Not Exactly Carbs?

super_b_star
super_b_star Posts: 48 Member
in Food and Nutrition
What are your guys' thoughts on this?

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  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    I say yes to both.
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    Why would you cut out grains unless you have a sensitivity such celiac disease?
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
    I love me some pasta & bread. No way!

    However, if you think you might be celiac, rice, potatoes, quinoa etc are all excellent :smile:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Why would you cut out grains unless you have a sensitivity such celiac disease?

    ^^that would be my question as well.
  • glitteredgrave
    glitteredgrave Posts: 194 Member
    Grains are the best. Why say no to them? They make you feel full and taste delicious and stuff.
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
    I am eating homemade apricot pancakes with ice cream and protein cheesecake, all drizzled with ginger syrup, at this very minute. Yummy.
  • super_b_star
    super_b_star Posts: 48 Member
    I haven't the slightest idea actually, lol. just something i was rethinking about and remembering what I've heard in the past. I know my carb intake from bread,pasta,ect needs to be less (I dont eat as complex and healthy carbs as I should) and i was thinking maybe a lot of my inabilities to feel healthy and lose weight might have been due to this.

    Increasing it by getting it from fruit and veggies definitely, but i still feel like I eat too much of the simple carbs...?

    My diary isnt up to date at all, i suppose im just rambling :P
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I haven't the slightest idea actually, lol. just something i was rethinking about and remembering what I've heard in the past. I know my carb intake from bread,pasta,ect needs to be less (I dont eat as complex and healthy carbs as I should) and i was thinking maybe a lot of my inabilities to feel healthy and lose weight might have been due to this.

    Increasing it by getting it from fruit and veggies definitely, but i still feel like I eat too much of the simple carbs...?

    My diary isnt up to date at all, i suppose im just rambling :P

    Do you weigh, measure and log your food?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I am eating homemade apricot pancakes with ice cream and protein cheesecake, all drizzled with ginger syrup, at this very minute. Yummy.

    Tease :tongue:
  • super_b_star
    super_b_star Posts: 48 Member
    I am eating homemade apricot pancakes with ice cream and protein cheesecake, all drizzled with ginger syrup, at this very minute. Yummy.

    You seem very active and have a lot of muscle though...I do not, unfortunately. I guess I kinda thought the high carb/ high grain might have only applied to people who are already in awesome shape or run a million miles a day.

    Again, I fully admit i am uneducated on the subject. I am more looking for advice and facts, so feel free to say them! Im perfectly fine with being wrong in my assumptions :)
  • super_b_star
    super_b_star Posts: 48 Member
    I haven't the slightest idea actually, lol. just something i was rethinking about and remembering what I've heard in the past. I know my carb intake from bread,pasta,ect needs to be less (I dont eat as complex and healthy carbs as I should) and i was thinking maybe a lot of my inabilities to feel healthy and lose weight might have been due to this.

    Increasing it by getting it from fruit and veggies definitely, but i still feel like I eat too much of the simple carbs...?

    My diary isnt up to date at all, i suppose im just rambling :P

    Do you weigh, measure and log your food?

    Not recently, no. I was pretty dedicated to using this website for a while, but back then I hardly knew what i was even suppose to be measuring for! I'm open to a lot more healthy food now, so i'm more or less 'creeping' back into what i hope to be a healthier lifestyle again.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I am eating homemade apricot pancakes with ice cream and protein cheesecake, all drizzled with ginger syrup, at this very minute. Yummy.

    You seem very active and have a lot of muscle though...I do not, unfortunately. I guess I kinda thought the high carb/ high grain might have only applied to people who are already in awesome shape or run a million miles a day.

    Again, I fully admit i am uneducated on the subject. I am more looking for advice and facts, so feel free to say them! Im perfectly fine with being wrong in my assumptions :)

    I don't do cardio and often eat 200g+ of carbs. I usually am between 150g and 240g.

    Have a read of this:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/841305-corn-used-my-man-parts-as-a-speedbag

    The title is a bit deceiving.
  • TheRealPDouble
    TheRealPDouble Posts: 153
    I've worked very hard to understand it and while I am quite educated on the topic... I've learned not to discuss this topic on the forums... But I get what you're saying.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I haven't the slightest idea actually, lol. just something i was rethinking about and remembering what I've heard in the past. I know my carb intake from bread,pasta,ect needs to be less (I dont eat as complex and healthy carbs as I should) and i was thinking maybe a lot of my inabilities to feel healthy and lose weight might have been due to this.

    Increasing it by getting it from fruit and veggies definitely, but i still feel like I eat too much of the simple carbs...?

    My diary isnt up to date at all, i suppose im just rambling :P

    Do you weigh, measure and log your food?

    Not recently, no. I was pretty dedicated to using this website for a while, but back then I hardly knew what i was even suppose to be measuring for! I'm open to a lot more healthy food now, so i'm more or less 'creeping' back into what i hope to be a healthier lifestyle again.

    Another read for you: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it

    Hopefully it will help.
  • super_b_star
    super_b_star Posts: 48 Member
    I've worked very hard to understand it and while I am quite educated on the topic... I've learned not to discuss this topic on the forums... But I get what you're saying.

    because....?
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
    Hitting macros, including carbs, is a distant priority behind calories in terms of successful fat loss. Focus on meeting your energy needs relative to exercise and goals first. Even if you consume less calories compared to me, once you approach your goal you should have met nearly all your macro goals anyway. Thus, if you have remaining calories, you can fill them with calorie-dense foods of your choosing.

    I am doing a cut, too, without cardio - just lifting five days a week.
  • super_b_star
    super_b_star Posts: 48 Member
    Hitting macros, including carbs, is a distant priority behind calories in terms of successful fat loss. Focus on meeting your energy needs relative to exercise and goals first. Even if you consume less calories compared to me, once you approach your goal you should have met nearly all your macro goals anyway. Thus, if you have remaining calories, you can fill them with calorie-dense foods of your choosing.

    I am doing a cut, too, without cardio - just lifting five days a week.

    I know this is going to sound completely stupid and you're gonna go 'why is this chick even on here?'

    But i'm not sure I follow what you're saying. As in, idk what macros are. Yup. I'm that out of the loop :(
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Hitting macros, including carbs, is a distant priority behind calories in terms of successful fat loss. Focus on meeting your energy needs relative to exercise and goals first. Even if you consume less calories compared to me, once you approach your goal you should have met nearly all your macro goals anyway. Thus, if you have remaining calories, you can fill them with calorie-dense foods of your choosing.

    I am doing a cut, too, without cardio - just lifting five days a week.

    I know this is going to sound completely stupid and you're gonna go 'why is this chick even on here?'

    But i'm not sure I follow what you're saying. As in, idk what macros are. Yup. I'm that out of the loop :(

    Macros are protein, fats, carbohydrates.

    Don't feel bad asking questions.
  • super_b_star
    super_b_star Posts: 48 Member

    I don't do cardio and often eat 200g+ of carbs. I usually am between 150g and 240g.

    Have a read of this:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/841305-corn-used-my-man-parts-as-a-speedbag

    The title is a bit deceiving.

    I wanted to ask, why don't you do any cardio?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member

    I don't do cardio and often eat 200g+ of carbs. I usually am between 150g and 240g.

    Have a read of this:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/841305-corn-used-my-man-parts-as-a-speedbag

    The title is a bit deceiving.

    I wanted to ask, why don't you do any cardio?

    I hate it. I strength train but cardio bores me to tears.


    ETA: to be fair, I might find something like running outside to be less boring, but I am terrible at it (which ironically is one reason I probably should be doing it)
  • super_b_star
    super_b_star Posts: 48 Member

    I don't do cardio and often eat 200g+ of carbs. I usually am between 150g and 240g.

    Have a read of this:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/841305-corn-used-my-man-parts-as-a-speedbag

    The title is a bit deceiving.

    I wanted to ask, why don't you do any cardio?

    I hate it. I strength train but cardio bores me to tears.

    I can admire that, haha. Strength training i find intimidating, although I know its something I should get into.
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    I've worked very hard to understand it and while I am quite educated on the topic... I've learned not to discuss this topic on the forums... But I get what you're saying.

    because....?

    Because it can start heated debates between the "carbs are evil" folks and the "no they're not" camp. They're actually quite entertaining, until some people get nasty. :laugh:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member

    I don't do cardio and often eat 200g+ of carbs. I usually am between 150g and 240g.

    Have a read of this:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/841305-corn-used-my-man-parts-as-a-speedbag

    The title is a bit deceiving.

    I wanted to ask, why don't you do any cardio?

    I hate it. I strength train but cardio bores me to tears.

    I can admire that, haha. Strength training i find intimidating, although I know its something I should get into.

    I think a lot of people do at first, which is natural. If you ever have the opportunity, you should look into doing a few sessions with a trainer to get comfortable with weights. You can do routines on your own, but it is less intimidating to have someone go through it with you at first.
  • spamantha57
    spamantha57 Posts: 674 Member
    I think there could be a couple things you're thinking of - the "right" kind of carbs are good, natural unprocessed stuff, as opposed to "bad" carbs, like stripped bleach stuff with no nutritional value.

    Another thing some people think that they're eating too much of something (like you're thinking you're eating too many carbs) when in actuality you're not eating enough of something else you should. If you do end up logging your food on here, you might see you're not eating enough of something (say, protein for example) & if you start eating more in a nutrient you're deficit in you might feel fuller. :)
  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
    Why would you cut out grains unless you have a sensitivity such celiac disease?

    Some people go for years being undiagnosed (and not all tests are comprehensive either) and cutting grains, even for a short while, can prove beneficial.

    Sure, if you don't have issues with them, then munch away.

    I'm a big fan of self-experimentation and a 30 day elimination thing can't be a bad thing to try especially if it is the elimination of something that causes a lot of people grief.

    Unless, of course, the thought of being without your 'healthy whole grains' for a month is unbearable. Then I would suggest this is evidence for them having addictive properties and just another reason to moderate them out for a bit.

    I cut them all for a few months last year (and legumes), didn't see much difference in my health, honestly, so they are back in now.

    Don't regret the experiment though.
  • super_b_star
    super_b_star Posts: 48 Member

    I don't do cardio and often eat 200g+ of carbs. I usually am between 150g and 240g.

    Have a read of this:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/841305-corn-used-my-man-parts-as-a-speedbag

    The title is a bit deceiving.

    I wanted to ask, why don't you do any cardio?

    I hate it. I strength train but cardio bores me to tears.

    I can admire that, haha. Strength training i find intimidating, although I know its something I should get into.

    I think a lot of people do at first, which is natural. If you ever have the opportunity, you should look into doing a few sessions with a trainer to get comfortable with weights. You can do routines on your own, but it is less intimidating to have someone go through it with you at first.

    I assumed that i would have to join a gym first in order to do that (which costs more $$ than I can afford for a membership)

    My apartment has a little fitness center of its own, and I would like to utilize it more. So yes, I would be interested in getting some sessions in with someone who could teach me to do these types of things properly so that I could be efficient at it.

    (I have gone off topic of the thread, but oh well)
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member

    I don't do cardio and often eat 200g+ of carbs. I usually am between 150g and 240g.

    Have a read of this:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/841305-corn-used-my-man-parts-as-a-speedbag

    The title is a bit deceiving.

    I wanted to ask, why don't you do any cardio?
    I hate it. I strength train but cardio bores me to tears.

    I can admire that, haha. Strength training i find intimidating, although I know its something I should get into.

    I think a lot of people do at first, which is natural. If you ever have the opportunity, you should look into doing a few sessions with a trainer to get comfortable with weights. You can do routines on your own, but it is less intimidating to have someone go through it with you at first.

    I assumed that i would have to join a gym first in order to do that (which costs more $$ than I can afford for a membership)

    My apartment has a little fitness center of its own, and I would like to utilize it more. So yes, I would be interested in getting some sessions in with someone who could teach me to do these types of things properly so that I could be efficient at it.

    (I have gone off topic of the thread, but oh well)

    I'm enjoying it, Sara is giving you all kinds of good advice :). Take it from saras six pack, you can get quite slim and strong lifting.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    What are your guys' thoughts on this?

    Say yes to both. Grains are delicious part of an well-rounded, healthy diet,
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I think there could be a couple things you're thinking of - the "right" kind of carbs are good, natural unprocessed stuff, as opposed to "bad" carbs, like stripped bleach stuff with no nutritional value.

    Another thing some people think that they're eating too much of something (like you're thinking you're eating too many carbs) when in actuality you're not eating enough of something else you should. If you do end up logging your food on here, you might see you're not eating enough of something (say, protein for example) & if you start eating more in a nutrient you're deficit in you might feel fuller. :)

    The "right" carbs are a healthy mix of grains/cereals, fruits/veggies, and chocolate. :smokin:
  • Missjulesdid
    Missjulesdid Posts: 1,444 Member
    Why would you cut out grains unless you have a sensitivity such celiac disease?

    Some people go for years being undiagnosed (and not all tests are comprehensive either) and cutting grains, even for a short while, can prove beneficial.

    Sure, if you don't have issues with them, then munch away.

    I'm a big fan of self-experimentation and a 30 day elimination thing can't be a bad thing to try especially if it is the elimination of something that causes a lot of people grief.

    Unless, of course, the thought of being without your 'healthy whole grains' for a month is unbearable. Then I would suggest this is evidence for them having addictive properties and just another reason to moderate them out for a bit.

    I cut them all for a few months last year (and legumes), didn't see much difference in my health, honestly, so they are back in now.

    Don't regret the experiment though.

    OMG, THJIS^^^ I'm grain free and have seen vast improvement in my health.. I do plan reintroducing certain grains at some poing on a limited basis.. but I've parted ways with wheat forever. I don't advocate a wheat-free diet for everyone, but I do think it's something worth investigating. Try it for a month and see how you feel.. then add it back into your diet and see how you feel. It's really the only way you'll know if wheat-free/grain-free is necessary/right for you.

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