No fat recipes?

My dad has just been put on a NO fat diet, not low fat, no fat. He's not too happy with this and cheats because I'm pretty sure he's addicted to food, especially fast food, so this is not going to be easy. He's also on blood thinners so he can't have vitamin k. ( meaning no dark, leafy greens) Help? He doesn't like healthy foods (he's kind of like a child). Might just have to lie to him about what he's eating....
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  • Pedal_Pusher
    Pedal_Pusher Posts: 1,166 Member
    Who put him on a no fat diet? Suspect.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,265 Member
    Impossible and dangerous......Find a better health care who ever person.
  • Listen, I'm not an idiot! His DOCTOR put him on this diet probably because there's too much fat for his liver. His whole digestive system is in bad condition. He's also diabetic. If you're going to critique, go away. I honestly don't want to hear it.
  • eamconnor
    eamconnor Posts: 130 Member
    He might be on what is colloquially known as the Bill Clinton diet. Extreme vegan diet, and, if we're talking about the same thing, yes, it is very unforgiving. But it seems to be helpful for people flirting with serious health issues. A friend of mine (no really, I do have this friend...) had a terrible time with statins, and went on it with a vengeance. He lost 40+ pounds and dropped his lipid counts through the floor. A popularizer of this diet is Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn. I don't have the time and energy to follow this diet strictly, but I do use the recipes in Esselstyn's book a great deal. They're healthful and delicious. (And I'm not a compensated endorser. :-)
  • shmoony
    shmoony Posts: 237 Member
    No fat diets don't exist. I used to be on what might be considered a no fat diet, but even in things that might be listed as fat free are only listed as such because the amount in one tiny serving is less than 1 gram. And whoever put him on a no fat diet, if it was a doctor or certified nutritionist, should have their license revoked. A fat restricted diet or very low fat diet sure, but I'd like to hear the explanation.
  • lauren3101
    lauren3101 Posts: 1,853 Member
    He can't eat any fat, and he can't eat any greens? That doesn't leave a lot of options. He can eat fruit, basically,
  • shmoony
    shmoony Posts: 237 Member
    Listen, I'm not an idiot! His DOCTOR put him on this diet probably because there's too much fat for his liver. His whole digestive system is in bad condition. He's also diabetic. If you're going to critique, go away. I honestly don't want to hear it.

    And for the record, f you "don't want to hear it", why would you ask the question? Do you want to hear the truth, or what you want to hear? Is this a common thread in your relationships, if so, I feel sorry for the people around you.
  • ok very very low fat recipe ideas?? That's all I need, I don't need critiquing. I'm studying to be a nurse so please do not assume that I'm an idiot. It is not appreciated.
  • He can't eat any fat, and he can't eat any greens? That doesn't leave a lot of options. He can eat fruit, basically,




    He's also diabetic........ He can have greens, just not dark greens with vitamin K
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,265 Member
    He can't eat any fat, and he can't eat any greens? That doesn't leave a lot of options. He can eat fruit, basically,
    According to his Doctor.......get another opinion and sorry you don't like advice that doesn't corroborate with your thinking.
  • shmoony
    shmoony Posts: 237 Member
    Sorry. That last part was uncalled for.......true, but uncalled for
  • lauren3101
    lauren3101 Posts: 1,853 Member
    ok very very low fat recipe ideas?? That's all I need, I don't need critiquing. I'm studying to be a nurse so please do not assume that I'm an idiot. It is not appreciated.

    No-one assumed you were an idiot, they were trying to give you advice.

    I'm sorry, but you come on here asking for a no fat diet (virtually impossible as it is) for someone that can't eat greens (the majority of any greens has vitamin k in it - google it) and then you say he doesn't eat healthy food - how do you expect us to help with that? It's impossible.
  • Listen, I'm not an idiot! His DOCTOR put him on this diet probably because there's too much fat for his liver. His whole digestive system is in bad condition. He's also diabetic. If you're going to critique, go away. I honestly don't want to hear it.

    And for the record, f you "don't want to hear it", why would you ask the question? Do you want to hear the truth, or what you want to hear? Is this a common thread in your relationships, if so, I feel sorry for the people around you.

    ALL I ASKED FOR WERE RECIPE IDEAS!!!!!!!!! I'm sorry if that was too difficult for you to understand.
  • lasmit4477
    lasmit4477 Posts: 308 Member
    You are/were very defensive from the start and you do not seem open to many suggestions or thoughts that people on this site have to offer. No one called you an idiot, either. However, if you were looking for recipes, post your question somewhere else, like in the recipe message boards, instead of giving out your personal information. Just simply ask the question that would meet your needs/goals.

    You would probablly be better off getting some type of meal ideas and food groups from his physician or asking for a referral to a dietitian in regards to his needs, not on a public forum.
  • LISTEN TO ME, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ADVICE, I'M ASKING FOR RECIPE IDEAS!!!!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,265 Member
    Listen, I'm not an idiot! His DOCTOR put him on this diet probably because there's too much fat for his liver. His whole digestive system is in bad condition. He's also diabetic. If you're going to critique, go away. I honestly don't want to hear it.

    And for the record, f you "don't want to hear it", why would you ask the question? Do you want to hear the truth, or what you want to hear? Is this a common thread in your relationships, if so, I feel sorry for the people around you.

    ALL I ASKED FOR WERE RECIPE IDEAS!!!!!!!!! I'm sorry if that was too difficult for you to understand.
    High fruit is high sugar regardless of the benefits of fruit. Somebody that's diabetic and obese should not be on a diet with such littler protein, let alone little to no fat and that many carb, well over 90%, your a nurse, you don't see the problem here.
  • lasmit4477
    lasmit4477 Posts: 308 Member
    LISTEN TO ME, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ADVICE, I'M ASKING FOR RECIPE IDEAS!!!!


    Then post your question in the appropriate message board!

    And maybe you should go eat a carbohydrate to help with your mood and all of this "yelling" you are doing!
  • lauren3101
    lauren3101 Posts: 1,853 Member


    And maybe you should go eat a carbohydrate to help with your mood and all of this "yelling" you are doing!

    ???

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  • Firefox7275
    Firefox7275 Posts: 2,040 Member
    My dad has just been put on a NO fat diet, not low fat, no fat. He's not too happy with this and cheats because I'm pretty sure he's addicted to food, especially fast food, so this is not going to be easy. He's also on blood thinners so he can't have vitamin k. ( meaning no dark, leafy greens) Help? He doesn't like healthy foods (he's kind of like a child). Might just have to lie to him about what he's eating....

    Ask the doctor to refer your father to a registered dietician, the diet you have been recommended is a medical treatment so you should not be getting advice from unqualified strangers on a forum. You may think asking for recipes is innocuous, I can assure you it is not given your father has multiple medical issues and prescribed medication to work around.
  • shmoony
    shmoony Posts: 237 Member
    So in response to your repeated request for recipes, the answer is that they don't really exist. I could give you a hundred recipes that contain anywahere from 3-10 grams of fat per serving, but I guess yoo're not looking for those.
  • eamconnor
    eamconnor Posts: 130 Member
    Really, folks, it's a reasonable question. Look up Colin Campbell, the China Study, and other resources. I'm not a doctor, nutritionist, or anything like that. But I have read a great deal about this diet (usually while munching some chips ;-), and it's interesting.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    LISTEN TO ME, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ADVICE, I'M ASKING FOR RECIPE IDEAS!!!!

    There is no need to yell. If you can't take the advice then don't post a question that is pretty much impossible to answer.

    Recipes should be asked for on the recipe board. This is food and nutrition. That is why you are getting food and nutrition advice.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    Google the 80/10/10 diet.
  • starryk
    starryk Posts: 53
    WOW.. Does one not get more flies with honey :smile:
  • lasmit4477
    lasmit4477 Posts: 308 Member
    Google the 80/10/10 diet.


    She wants recipes, Rock!!! She doesn't have time for google!!!
  • kristen6022
    kristen6022 Posts: 1,923 Member
    Items I can think of that he could incorporate into his diet are as follows:

    Plain 0% Greek Yogurt (all others will be high in sugars)
    Non-Green Veggies (Califlower, Eggplant, Squash etc), raw or steamed
    Low Gylcemic Fruits
    Low Sodium Chicken Broth
    Skim Milk
    Fat Free Cheese (nasty, but fat free)


    All Lean Protein (chicken, shrimp, fish, etc) will have SOME fat in them, but the lowest being shrimp and tilapia, baked with no fat.


    I realize these aren't recipes, but eating NO fat, it's pretty much impossible to put together "recipes". I'd say 99% of healthy things to eat have some fat in them.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    ok very very low fat recipe ideas?? That's all I need, I don't need critiquing. I'm studying to be a nurse so please do not assume that I'm an idiot. It is not appreciated.

    Shouldn't his doctor have given you a list of what he can eat? If he's on whatever diet someone mentioned above, wouldn't they have told you the name so you can look it up? If not, you should ask. Either way, you can always google recipes. There are lots of sites - like allrecipes.com. You can put the ingredients in there and see what comes up. You can always alter recipes to fit his needs.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Google the 80/10/10 diet.


    She wants recipes, Rock!!! She doesn't have time for google!!!

    Oops. I just advised google. *smh* Oh well...it's the only advice there really is.
  • whenday
    whenday Posts: 64 Member
    http://www.fathead-movie.com/

    Documentary on netflix if you have it. Seriously watch it and keep an open mind. I watched it and it opened my eyes and I used to be a nurse too.
  • corneredbycorn
    corneredbycorn Posts: 267 Member
    I realize these aren't recipes, but eating NO fat, it's pretty much impossible to put together "recipes". I'd say 99% of healthy things to eat have some fat in them.

    That's because fat is not evil and you need it for basic functions to live. This is why the diet is suspect and why the OP is being told to have her father either get a second opinion or have him get a referral to a dietitian who understands his needs, can work around them, and give him ideas.

    At any rate, it sounds like her dad has no interest in following a diet anyway.