Do you follow a workout plan at the gym?

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  • Songbirdcw
    Songbirdcw Posts: 320 Member
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    That's an awesome schedule. You're hitting the major muscle groups twice, particularly legs and abs. (You need to add back though.) My boyfriend is a personal trainer (nice to have one at home WINK) but when we are at the gym I'm usually working out on my own and I definitely keep to a routine. He'll comment about things and often encourage me to go up more in weight or reps as appropriate (he says I don't push myself hard enough), but I'm generally just following my (WRITTEN) plan. Unfortunately I travel a lot for work so sometimes I can't get to the gym at all (hate that).

    Anyway, as you workout and drop weight it's essential that you build muscle tone. What happens to a lot of people is they drop a lot of weight fast and then their skin is all flabby and things (like our butts for us ladies in particular) start to sag. Not so pretty. Gotta do toning too!! Also, many people have no clue what they're doing in the gym (we see this allllll the time). They come in and workout, going through the motions, but they're not doing the exercises right so it's not helping that much...and they don't seen any real difference. If your routine is right for you, you will be able to SEE the toning within 2 weeks!!! Seriously! :happy: Get a trainer to help you if you're not. Well worth the money!

    I do at least 15 mins of cardio before each workout as a warm up, followed by about 15 minutes of abs (I'm on a mission to get a flat stomach so that's each time!). Then I rotate muscle groups like you do. The only group that I hit twice a week are legs, and that's because I'm trying not to lose my butt. LOL Seriously though, it's the one muscle group that keeps up our cardio at the same time. I do a minimum of 4 exercises in that day's muscle group (3 sets each, trying to build up to 25 reps each before I increase weight - except for legs..those are totally different.) Depending on my week and whether I'm traveling or not, I'll dedicate a day to pure cardio (usually in spin class where I go HARD for an hour). I try to burn about 10 cals per min most days (except spin days when I do more). If you don't have a cardio watch/monitor, get one! :smile:

    I agree with everyone else..make a plan that works for you and stick to it! If it stops working (this is a natural occurence, by the way) then adjust it. Seek help if you're not noticing real results. :-)

    Thanks so much for the reply. I am going to do a 30 day evaluation of this plan. We shall see how my body responds to it. I do have a HRM. I love it!
  • Shal1217
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    Yes I do, I basically follow my fiancé's lead. He's really fit and basically workout like he does (and I am not bulky for those who are wondering about working out like a guy).

    Day 1 - Chest + Triceps + Cardio (HIIT)
    Day 2 - Shoulders + Abs + Cardio (HIIT)
    Day 3 - Back + Biceps + Cardio (HIIT)
    Day 4 - Legs
    Day 5 - Bonus (I usually do a class or a longer cardio sesh)
    2 rest days (doesn't have to be in a row)

    That is my current plan, and I go up in weight every 2 workouts of that muscle group. Also, we switch up the order and combinations after a while, keep the workouts varied, and sometimes do a cardio week or even just take it off to keep your body guessing.
  • JustJennie1
    JustJennie1 Posts: 3,843 Member
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    Yes. I hit one muscle group a day and do legs and abs every other day so an example would be:

    M: Chest/legs
    T: Back/abs
    W: Shoulders/legs
    TH: Tri's/abs
    F: Bi's/legs

    Start over again on Monday. I do different exercises on leg and abs day and when the rotation goes through again I will do different exercises for the major groups. If I used the smith machine for my chest presses then the next week I use free weights; if I used the lat machine for my back then the next week I'll use the assisted machine etc.
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
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    So many terrible and unbalanced splits. Why would people worry about working abs 2x per week and work legs\chest\shoulders\back 1x per week?
  • ilovedeadlifts
    ilovedeadlifts Posts: 2,923 Member
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    So many terrible and unbalanced splits. Why would people worry about working abs 2x per week and work legs\chest\shoulders\back 1x per week?

    agreed.

    WHY ON EARTH are all of these beginners doing splits?
    FULL BODY workouts are the best for getting started. Focus on compound lifts. You don't need an "arms and abs" day. That's ridiculous.

    I've spent 2.5 years in the gym and still have enough sense to know that I don't need a bodypart split. You don't need that kind of volume to make progress.
  • Shal1217
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    So many terrible and unbalanced splits. Why would people worry about working abs 2x per week and work legs\chest\shoulders\back 1x per week?

    Just saw I put abs twice when I really do it once, either when I do legs OR shoulders. You may think my workouts suck but I've seen progress and it works for me so far so... meh.
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
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    There's progress and there's optimal progress. I personally don't like to take 3x as long to get something done.
  • Shal1217
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    Do you mind sharing your plan? Doesn't have to be on here, PM me. I'm curious :)
  • moustache_flavored_lube
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    You have to have a plan!!!
    With experience, and understanding of the principles behind training, you gain freedom and flexibility to listen to your body and adjust the intensity or specific exercise to fit.
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
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    Here is fine. I am not ashamed ;)

    I used to run Starting Strength, but the weight got too heavy so I modified it to

    Mon and Fri
    Squats
    Bench or OHP
    Pendlay Rows or Chinups
    Straight and bent leg calf presses

    Wed
    Deadlift
    Bench or OHP
    Pendlay Rows or Chinups
    abs

    Sometimes I do some curlz on non chinup days. Ya know, for da brocepz.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,867 Member
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    Depending on your goals, I don't even think it's enough to have a basic routine (e.g. Monday is "leg day," Wednesday is "chest & back day," etc.). I think you need to be following a program, tailored to get you to a specific goal via constant progression, that has a beginning, an end, and several checkpoints along the way. It doesn't have to be a program that you paid money for or downloaded off the Internet. You can design your own, assuming you have the knowledge and objectivity to do so (and I suppose most people don't). I just think it is an enormous waste of time to go to the gym without a clearly defined purpose.

    This^^^

    I also have a workout diary and I log all of my weight lifted...notes on whether or not I could get the last couple of reps up...was it too easy (time to move up the weight), etc. I like to only barely be able to get my last couple of reps up. This also keeps me from slacking and "taking it easy" in the weight room.

    I lift heavy 3x weekly, full body compound lifts...it's awesome and I don't have to spend a gazillion hours in the gym to get results.
  • Shal1217
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    lol cool, thanks!
  • moustache_flavored_lube
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    +1 on doing full body vs splits.

    I would say the vast majority would do best with 3 days full body routine / 3 days cardio. Core & stretching on all 6 days
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
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    I guess I'll break down and post this write up from VoxExMachina from bodybuilding.com forums

    Full Body Routines vs. Splits

    The question often arises, especially from beginners, about what type of routine to use. Your buddy told you to use a full body routine, but the muscle mags suggest a 5-day "bodybuilder" split. You don't want to start off on the wrong foot, but there is so much information out there that sorting through what to do can be difficult.

    This is some of my opinion on the subject, and maybe it'll help a few people out.


    Full Body Routines:

    In my opinion, this is the place for a beginner to start. I have many years of lifting experience, and have pretty much always used some form of bodybuilding split routine. However, if I had it to do over again, I would have begun with a good full-body routine, built around the compound lifts, done 3 times per week. When you are a beginner you don't generally have the muscular strength to work intensely enough, or with enough volume, to require as much recovery time as someone who is stronger or more experienced. If you are a young beginner, on top of that, you have very good recovery abilities due to high hormone levels. So, because you are recovered relatively quickly after each workout, you want to stimulate each muscle group more often to induce strength and growth.

    Another reason to start with a full body program is that this gives you the opportunity to learn and practice the basic lifts: squats, deadlifts, bench press, overhead press, barbell rows, etc. Whether your goal is bodybuilding, strength athlete, sports, or just remaining fit, these really ought to form the basis of any routine. No matter what path you choose to "branch out" on later, these core lifts will serve you well.


    2-Day Split Routines:

    So the next question becomes: when should I think about split routines? In very simple terms, the answer is: when full body routines become too much. Usually, as you get stronger, it becomes very difficult to maintain enough energy to do squats, deadlifts, bench press, etc. all on the same day. You may also find that you want to add in a few isolation exercises to bring up your weak areas, or you may want to begin focusing more on each core lift. Another issue is recovery; as you get stronger, you are able to work out more intensely, and that means longer recovery times. So at that point, it makes sense to "split" things up by only doing a part of your previous full routine on any given day.

    A logical place to make your first split is into an Upper / Lower type routine. This will have you doing your upper body work like bench press, rows, overhead pressing on 1 day, and your lower body work like squats on another day. Another way to go would be a "push/pull" type split where you do all your pulling exercises (rows, deads) on one day and your pushing exercises (squats, overhead press, bench) on another day. Exactly how you do it is up to you, but the point is to divide the workload per session. This will give you more time (and volume) per body part, and also give you a bit more recovery before you work that muscle again. Most people will typically cycle through a 2-day split like these twice per week. So instead of every muscle being stimulated 3 times per week with the full body, now it's twice per week with the 2-day split.


    3+ Day Splits:

    3, 4, 5 (or more!) day splits come in when you again feel the need to divide your workload to match your recovery abilities, or increase the amount of work you want to do on specific muscles or lifts. Generally, these type of splits are mostly bodybuilding related, but even strength athletes may chose to split so they can work on speed lifts one day, strength work another, etc.

    At this point (speaking to bodybuilding) many lifters will only hit each muscle group once per week. This has the advantage of letting you really hammer a muscle group with a lot of weight and volume, and then give it plenty of time to recover while you're bringing the pain to the next group. Your full body effort is broken down into segments that are manageable from a workload, energy, and recovery standpoint.

    If you are an "experienced" (older) lifter with decreased recovery abilities (we all ain't as young as we used to be), this type of split often is useful for staying healthy due to the increased recovery time per body part. The kids might not think it's important, but your tendons might.

    There are so many variations of splits that I won't even attempt to detail all the possibilities. If you follow the advice in this post, by the time you need a multiple day split, you'll know your body, your goals, and have a pretty good idea of what you want to do.


    Final Thoughts:

    I believe it's a logical notion to start with a full body routine, and begin splitting only when you feel the need to increase your recovery or increase your volume. If you stick with the concept that you're trying to hit a muscle as often as you are able while still recovering adequately, and let that be your guide, you'll do okay.

    Hopefully, this gives some food for thought to help you decide what type of routine you should use. Ultimately, however, it's worth saying that you can do fine with any well-designed program even if you begin with a split routine right from the beginning.
  • Sdennis817
    Sdennis817 Posts: 7 Member
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    I do about 75% of my workouts at the gym. I am trying to stick to a plan from week to week. Currently, it is:

    Monday - Shoulders, Triceps, and abs
    Tuesday - Legs, and glutes, cardio
    Wednesday - Biceps and Chest
    Thursday - Shoulders , Triceps, and abs
    Friday - Legs, and glutes, cardio
    Saturday - Biceps and Chest
    Sunday - Rest

    Does anyone else stick to a weekly plan or do you change from week to week or based on your needs?

    I am doing Jillian Michaels Body Revloution (JMBR). I just started and I must say it is fantastic. She works your body - its systematic and I highly recommend it. She kicks your body - using intervals - cardio, weights, resistant bands, ab work. There are 15 dvds in the set. She changes it up so your body doesnt plateau or get used to a routine. - Sherry
  • Richie2shoes
    Richie2shoes Posts: 412 Member
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    Yes. The last time I lost a significant amount of weight, I worked with the trainer at my gym. He gave me three different whole body plans to rotate through every 6-8 weeks. The first one consists of 12 exercises, 25 reps per exercise. The second consists of 16 exercises, 3 sets of 8 reps. These two are done with the machines. The third consists of 18 exercises, 3 sets of 8, but done with free weights. Each plan is done M-W-F followed by 30 minutes of cardio and cardio only T-Th-Sa

    I am one week into the first routine.