Anyone cut out Dairy, Sugar, Wheat and Pork from diet?

silverboot
silverboot Posts: 15 Member
in Food and Nutrition
I have had health problems for several years now. Bouncing from one specialist to the other. I recently was referred to a naturopath that has help a lot of people in my area with natural remedies. I went to see him 6 weeks ago and he instructed me to take specific vitamins and natural pills he prescribed. I saw great improvement in 1 week. I saw him again last week for a follow up and he now instructed me to cut out all dairy, sugar, wheat, pork, coffee and alcohol from my diet for 4 weeks and wants to see me again before I change my diet again.

Well let me tell you this, I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't stuck to this %100, but I feel great in just 1 week. I have more energy in the mornings. (I have never been a morning person) I have also lost about 5 lbs of bloating and water. I have to admit it is extremely hard to stick to it because of the time it takes to prepare all my meals compared to grabbing something on the way to work. But, the results are too good to switch back to the way I was eating.

Anyone else cut out these foods or don't eat them to start with and feel fanatastic?
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  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    I doubt anyone has done that before, it's cray cray
  • imfivebyfive
    imfivebyfive Posts: 104
    I used to have digestive/bloating issues. I cut out wheat, gluten, dairy (except for eggs), and sugar and have not had any issues since.

    So yeah, I would say it works.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    I have a recipe for a planko and cheese crusted pork chop in a sweet white wine sauce if you're interested
  • Tw1zzler
    Tw1zzler Posts: 583
    I have a recipe for a planko and cheese crusted pork chop in a sweet white wine sauce if you're interested

    I'm interested.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Hell no. Those are four of my favorite things.
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    I have a recipe for a planko and cheese crusted pork chop in a sweet white wine sauce if you're interested

    I'm interested.

    Me too. Please post.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Those are a lot of things to cut out all at once. Most likely you have an intollerance to one of those things. Dairy and wheat are pretty common. You likely could have gotten the same results by just cutting the food to which you are intollerant. Cutting one food at a time would have made it easier to identify which it was, but if this is working for you and you can sustain it long term, then good for you.
  • ItsCasey
    ItsCasey Posts: 4,021 Member
    I've cut out wheat, not because I think it's some weight-loss miracle to do so, but because I learned I could live without it, and it freed up more calories for delicious dead beast. I still eat dairy, sugar, and, obviously, pork.

    I tend to avoid "doctors" who advocate giving up huge categories of food like they have just discovered gold. It's only natural that someone with inflammation or who is overweight or perhaps lactose intolerant would feel better if they cut out wheat, sugar, and dairy. I think most of the benefit is psychological. The quack said you would feel better if you gave up x, y, and z, so you did, and you think you feel better. He'll keep telling you to cut stuff out, and you'll keep doing it, and eventually, the only thing you'll be able to eat is berries, and then you'll swear that people are healthiest when they eat only berries.
  • LaLouve_RK
    LaLouve_RK Posts: 899 Member
    Cut totally? No.... Never.
    i plan my meals in consequence. It's hard since I am a big cheese addict! But it can be done!
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    I have a recipe for a planko and cheese crusted pork chop in a sweet white wine sauce if you're interested

    I'm interested.

    Me too. Please post.
    mmm me to! Yes, please post for the benefit of everyone else.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    it's not cray cray.

    i've cut dairy out almost entirely (have pizza like, once a month)

    I'm working on the sugar thing (mostly from fruits), and dropping wheat is also incredibly beneficial, as most of us have a minor wheat intolerance.

    Don't know why the pork... vs any other meat... but otherwise it sounds really logical to me. I'm currently reading Thrive, which is a vegan nutrition plan designed for athletes, and it's just plain incredible. cutting out things that humans have trouble digesting (like all the above) can streamline your body and systems like you wouldn't believe.

    Congrats and good luck!
  • lisavirani
    lisavirani Posts: 117 Member
    I cut all of those out at once before and it was fantastic. I felt great, I lost weight, and I was eating great food. That was a few months back. I have recently added dairy back in and SMALL amounts of wheat. I still feel good. It was a good cleanse though to eliminate those things. Not saying everyone should or everyone can, I mean, that is a LOT to eliminate, especially all at once.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    I have had health problems for several years now. Bouncing from one specialist to the other. I recently was referred to a naturopath that has help a lot of people in my area with natural remedies. I went to see him 6 weeks ago and he instructed me to take specific vitamins and natural pills he prescribed. I saw great improvement in 1 week. I saw him again last week for a follow up and he now instructed me to cut out all dairy, sugar, wheat, pork, coffee and alcohol from my diet for 4 weeks and wants to see me again before I change my diet again.
    Unfortunately, naturopathy is a hodge-podge of mostly unscientific treatment modalities based on vitalism and other prescientific notions of disease. As a result, typical naturopaths are more than happy in essence to “pick one from column A and one from column B” when it comes to pseudoscience, mixing and matching treatments including traditional Chinese medicine, homeopathy, herbalism, Ayurvedic medicine, applied kinesiology, anthroposophical medicine, reflexology, craniosacral therapy, Bowen Technique, and pretty much any other form of unscientific or prescientific medicine that you can imagine. Despite their affinity for non-science-based medical systems, naturopaths crave the imprimatur of science. As a result, they desperately try to represent what they do as being science-based, and they’ve even set up research institutes, much like the departments, divisions, and institutes devoted to “complementary and alternative medicine” (CAM) that have cropped up on the campuses of legitimate medical schools and academic medical centers like so many weeds poking through the cracks in the edifice of science-based medicine. Naturopaths also really, really don’t like it when they encounter criticism that their “discipline” is not science-based. Indeed, the president of the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians, Carl Hangee-Bauer, ND, LAc (he’s an acupuncturist, too!), wrote a revealing post on the official AANP blog entitled Science and Naturopathic Medicine.

    Science. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/naturopathy-and-science/
  • NinjaJinja
    NinjaJinja Posts: 147 Member
    No and I wouldn't either unless I had an intolerance. You likely are intolerant to only one of those (as someone said, dairy and wheat are common). My friend has celiac's and whenever she accidentally glutenates herself she experiences a drastic drop in energy. And it's hard enough for her to cut out gluten. I can't imagine cutting out dairy and sugar and pork (pork?? really??) - there would hardly be anything left for me to eat!

    Kind of like, how the hell does a vegan cut out carbs? What's left for them to eat?
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    as most of us have a minor wheat intolerance.

    Do you have any evidence of this?
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    as most of us have a minor wheat intolerance.

    Do you have any evidence of this?

    http://io9.com/5968164/why-you-should-probably-stop-eating-wheat
    The problem, however, is in how it's metabolized. According to Alessio Fasano, the Medical Director for The University of Maryland's Center for Celiac Research, no one can properly digest gluten.

    "We do not have the enzymes to break it down," he said in a recent interview with TenderFoodie. "It all depends upon how well our intestinal walls close after we ingest it and how our immune system reacts to it." His concern is that the gluten protein, which is abundant in the endosperm of barley, rye, and wheat kernels, is setting off an aberrant immune response.
  • teasdino
    teasdino Posts: 228 Member
    Glad you are feeling great.
    Jac
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    as most of us have a minor wheat intolerance.

    Do you have any evidence of this?

    http://io9.com/5968164/why-you-should-probably-stop-eating-wheat
    The problem, however, is in how it's metabolized. According to Alessio Fasano, the Medical Director for The University of Maryland's Center for Celiac Research, no one can properly digest gluten.

    "We do not have the enzymes to break it down," he said in a recent interview with TenderFoodie. "It all depends upon how well our intestinal walls close after we ingest it and how our immune system reacts to it." His concern is that the gluten protein, which is abundant in the endosperm of barley, rye, and wheat kernels, is setting off an aberrant immune response.

    Solid evidence
  • RobynLB
    RobynLB Posts: 617 Member
    I don't eat wheat, dairy, corn, certain fruits, and certain veggies. This is so restrictive as it is, that I've thought about cutting out other foods to ease my continuing stomach woes, but I just don't know what I will be able to eat. Is pork an issue for some people? I was vegitarian for years, and I've begun eating meat again, and I have noticed that my stomach problems seem to flare up from eating pork, but I thought I was just imagining things.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member

    Solid evidence

    once in a blue moon. :tongue:
  • ShoshanahM
    ShoshanahM Posts: 50 Member
    I have gluten and moderate lactose intolerance. My husband is a vegetarian and I've been avoiding non-natural sweets, so yeah I guess I'm on that diet! :) Sometimes I eat pork, but it makes me feel like a bad Jew.
  • iAMsmiling
    iAMsmiling Posts: 2,394 Member
    I'd have *****-slapped him the moment "pork" came out of his mouth.
  • ShoshanahM
    ShoshanahM Posts: 50 Member
    I don't eat wheat, dairy, corn, certain fruits, and certain veggies. This is so restrictive as it is, that I've thought about cutting out other foods to ease my continuing stomach woes, but I just don't know what I will be able to eat. Is pork an issue for some people? I was vegitarian for years, and I've begun eating meat again, and I have noticed that my stomach problems seem to flare up from eating pork, but I thought I was just imagining things.

    Okay, I have just about zero scientific knowledge about this kind of thing, but I know pigs (AND cows AND chicken) are fed lots of corn... Maybe it finds its way into meat?
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,272 Member
    I have had health problems for several years now. Bouncing from one specialist to the other. I recently was referred to a naturopath that has help a lot of people in my area with natural remedies. I went to see him 6 weeks ago and he instructed me to take specific vitamins and natural pills he prescribed. I saw great improvement in 1 week. I saw him again last week for a follow up and he now instructed me to cut out all dairy, sugar, wheat, pork, coffee and alcohol from my diet for 4 weeks and wants to see me again before I change my diet again.
    Unfortunately, naturopathy is a hodge-podge of mostly unscientific treatment modalities based on vitalism and other prescientific notions of disease. As a result, typical naturopaths are more than happy in essence to “pick one from column A and one from column B” when it comes to pseudoscience, mixing and matching treatments including traditional Chinese medicine, homeopathy, herbalism, Ayurvedic medicine, applied kinesiology, anthroposophical medicine, reflexology, craniosacral therapy, Bowen Technique, and pretty much any other form of unscientific or prescientific medicine that you can imagine. Despite their affinity for non-science-based medical systems, naturopaths crave the imprimatur of science. As a result, they desperately try to represent what they do as being science-based, and they’ve even set up research institutes, much like the departments, divisions, and institutes devoted to “complementary and alternative medicine” (CAM) that have cropped up on the campuses of legitimate medical schools and academic medical centers like so many weeds poking through the cracks in the edifice of science-based medicine. Naturopaths also really, really don’t like it when they encounter criticism that their “discipline” is not science-based. Indeed, the president of the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians, Carl Hangee-Bauer, ND, LAc (he’s an acupuncturist, too!), wrote a revealing post on the official AANP blog entitled Science and Naturopathic Medicine.

    Science. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/naturopathy-and-science/
    Thank-you. I was just going to post something like this.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,454 Member

    Solid evidence

    once in a blue moon. :tongue:

    Wait. What is going on here? Do I sense harmony?



    OP you lost me at Pork.
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,272 Member

    Solid evidence

    once in a blue moon. :tongue:
    He was being sarcastic. (I think)
  • alaskaang
    alaskaang Posts: 493 Member
    Yes, with the exception of pork. In dealing with intollerances, issues with dairy and wheat are common and overuse of sugar isn't good. As far as pork goes, my guess would be that the reason has more to do with the other stuff in it than the meat itself - bacon, ham, sausage, all have added flllers which often include wheat, dairy and sugar. Even chops have "x% added flavor enchancing solution" if you aren't careful to find the ones that don't.

    If it's helping you feel better, there's no reason not to give dietary changes a chance. Once you have balanced out, you may find that you can add things back in, it just takes some trial and error.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,454 Member

    Solid evidence

    once in a blue moon. :tongue:
    He was being sarcastic. (I think)

    Oh. Acg is on a sarcasm roll today..."milk is for baby mammals...." :laugh:
  • VorJoshigan
    VorJoshigan Posts: 1,106 Member
    Well let's break it down:

    Sugar - def bad if you are in any way insulin resistant (fat = probably insulin resistant)
    Dairy - usually includes lots of either sugar (see above) or fat. I think combining sugar with fat is even worse than doubling down on sugar.
    Wheat - calorifically dense & easily broken down to sugar by digestive system - see sugar above
    Pork - most pork products are heavily preserved. Reducing sodium and nitrates will probably make you feed better.

    Me personally, I've cut out sugar because I find it just too damn delicious & wheat because I dislike most wheat products.
    I do try to eat fresh cuts of pork, and dairy is just something I love, so I'm just not going to get rid of it. I do, however, use more almond/coconut milk than previously in my life.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    as most of us have a minor wheat intolerance.

    Do you have any evidence of this?

    http://io9.com/5968164/why-you-should-probably-stop-eating-wheat
    The problem, however, is in how it's metabolized. According to Alessio Fasano, the Medical Director for The University of Maryland's Center for Celiac Research, no one can properly digest gluten.

    "We do not have the enzymes to break it down," he said in a recent interview with TenderFoodie. "It all depends upon how well our intestinal walls close after we ingest it and how our immune system reacts to it." His concern is that the gluten protein, which is abundant in the endosperm of barley, rye, and wheat kernels, is setting off an aberrant immune response.

    Research has put Non-Cealic Gluten sensitivity at .55% of the US Population: http://www.eventscribe.com/2012/acg/ajaxcalls/postersinfo.asp?title=6267

    The person you're quoting disagrees, and puts the figure at 6-7%: http://celiacdisease.about.com/b/2012/10/25/study-finds-very-low-gluten-sensitivity-rate-but-dr-fasano-disagrees.htm

    Either way, it's a far cry from "most people."

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