Had a gastric bypass; not enough calories...

Makeda1211 · January 2013

Hey all,

I am a person who has had a gastric bypass some years ago and was one of the persons who put some weight back on. Now I am on here and counting calories. Honestly, I know and have researched the science behind making sure that you are not under eating. But, when you literally do not have the space to put more food into your body, what then?

I have noticed a stark difference in my weight as I have only been on here since December and have lost 17 pounds. I don't eat badly but even when I put in my food choices and enter in all of the calories that I have on my plate, I may not get in but four to five bites and am full. What to do?

ILiftHeavyAcrylics · January 2013

I think you had better talk to your doctor about it. Not meaning that to be a cop out, just not sure if you're supposed to be eating fewer calories.

If your doc wants you on more calories than you're eating you can go for more calorie dense foods. Nuts, avocados, meat, etc. Things that will give you more calories for a smaller amount of food.

Makeda1211 · January 2013

Here's the thing. i literally had the bypass almost 10 years ago. I didn't gain it all back but I have put on some weight since then.

I don't feel badly nor am I lacking any energy. If I can consistently get in 1000 calories in a day, I am doing good. I eat nutrient dense foods but not calorie dense foods for fear of sabotaging myself.

Bobby__Clerici · January 2013

Here's the thing. i literally had the bypass almost 10 years ago. I didn't gain it all back but I have put on some weight since then.

I don't feel badly nor am I lacking any energy. If I can consistently get in 1000 calories in a day, I am doing good. I eat nutrient dense foods but not calorie dense foods for fear of sabotaging myself.

You're on a different program, and the MFP recommendations may not be right for you.
Get with your physician, and good luck.
Maybe others can learn from your mistake.
:flowerforyou:

nashbear · January 2013

Relax. You will never get enough calories unless you eat crap. The bypass is a tool. Enjoy your tool. Make sure you get enough protein and calcium, Forget about what MFP calculates as how much you should have. I had lap band and have the same issue. Enjoy your weight loss and work hard to keep it off. Congrats on the 17 pounds.

1stday13 · January 2013

Hi, have you checked out the groups on here? There is one for Bypass/sleeve/band etc. You might want ro check it out. I'm sure you would probably find a lot of information there. Good luck

MzTanya77 · January 2013

You do need to contact your physician because you don't know how big or small your gastric pouch is. Some weight gain after gastric bypass is expected because that gastric pouch will expand just like your normal stomach. You may have to supplement your eating w/ some nutritional drinks such as Boost or Ensure so that you don't get malnourished, if you are not able to eat regular amounts of food.

Kerri_is_so_very · January 2013

This is a conversation you should be having with a Dr. or someone who specializes in G-bypass nutrition. If your concerned about iron levels or afraid you aren't getting enough essential nutrients, have some blood work done. If your energy level is fine and you are losing at a good rate and you feel satisfied, maybe 1000 is ok for you? If you are worried you aren't meeting "MFP settings" you can "customize" them to fit your needs. .

thedreamhazer · January 2013

If it's a mental game that you're playing with yourself, where you don't want to "sabotage' yourself ... first I would remind you that eating calorie dense food on a deficit won't cause you to gain weight. But I also know it can sometimes be a control problem, where calorie dense foods can be scary because if you do overeat them they can do more "damage" to your deficit. I think it would be a good idea to start trying to choose calorie dense foods that fall under the category of "healthy". Try things like adding avocado to sandwiches, cooking with more olive oil, choosing full fat dairy products instead low fat or non-fat, etc.

If you gained some of the weight back, then at some point you were eating at a surplus. Think of how you were eating during that time. You don't want to go back to that, but it may give you some hints of the types of foods that you could add small/reasonable amounts of to get more calories.

Good luck!

ChasingAmyLiz · January 2013

Hey all,

I am a person who has had a gastric bypass some years ago and was one of the persons who put some weight back on. Now I am on here and counting calories. Honestly, I know and have researched the science behind making sure that you are not under eating. But, when you literally do not have the space to put more food into your body, what then?

I have noticed a stark difference in my weight as I have only been on here since December and have lost 17 pounds. I don't eat badly but even when I put in my food choices and enter in all of the calories that I have on my plate, I may not get in but four to five bites and am full. What to do?

I also had bypass 10 years ago (sept 2003). Lost a ton. Then I had an emotionally rough year then had my son (turning 1 on Friday) and gained about 40 lbs. I've lost nearly 20 of it so far. I'm doing my damnedest to lose weight and it frustrates me when I see others who are dropping like 15 lbs a month or burning 300 calories doing a 20 minute walk. But I remind myself that everyone is different and unique.

But the other poster is right, talk to your doctor about it if you are really concerned. Obviously us GB patients have different systems and our bodies react differently than others. So talk to your dr and your nutritionist to see what they think.

Also, you can feel free to add me as a friend for like-minded support.

1stday13 · January 2013

Hi, have you checked out the groups on here? There is one for Bypass/sleeve/band etc. You might want ro check it out. I'm sure you would probably find a lot of information there. Good luck

I agree about checking with your Doc. In the mean time though, go up to "groups" And type "bypass" in the search box. There are quite a few groups that might be of interest & informative for you.

Makeda1211 · January 2013

Thank you all for all of your posts. I will definitely check out the group. I should also say that I have made the commitment to moving as well, which has been helpful in my pursuits.

Elf_Princess1210 · January 2013

why not just eat mini meals 6 times a day instead of 3 squares?

ETA: I've not had gastric bypass, but when I am very, very stressed out 3 large meals make me sick. I had good results by eating 6 small meals a day. A typical day for me while I was in nursing school (classes were 6 hours a day, 2 days a week, clinical days were 12 hours a day 2 days a week. Every day whether it was clinical or classroom there was a written quiz that I had to make an 80% on to pass; and there was a 50% wash out rate. I also was a teacher's assistant and the secretary for the nursing department of the school, and on the weekends i worked 3 16 hour shifts in a row. needless to say, I was STRESSED!!) for example:

mini meal #1 1/2 an apple with a tablespoon of peanut butter and string cheese (7 am)
mini meal #2 1/2 tuna salad sandwich ( 1/2 can water packed canned tuna with a teaspoon of mayo and tablespoon chopped raw onions) and 1/2 cup steamed broccoli
mini meal #3 1 cup of soup (any variety I felt like) and 1/4 cup chopped walnuts
mini meal # 4 3 tablespoons hummus and 1 oz pretzels with the other half of apple I ate for the first meal
mini meal # 5 the other 1/2 of tuna sandwich I had for meal 2 with 1/2 cup raw baby carrots
mini meal # 6 1/4 cup chopped walnuts, fresh strawberries, 1 oz feta cheese with 1 cup raw spinach and 2 tablespoons raspberry vinigrette

I hope that helps.

Makeda1211 · January 2013

I do eat smaller meals but when I do go to eat something, I will normally not be able to finish it before I am full. I think it is just the way my body has been rewired and I am truly psyching myself out.

bdeezy3396 · January 2013

I have recently gone through the surgery as well. Our nutritionist suggest that our calorie intake be between 800 to 1000 calories a day. They're biggest concern is that we are getting enough protein between 60 - 80 grams per day. Also I am taking multivitamins, vitamin D3, and calcium citrate each day to keep from becoming mineral deficient. Definitely talk with your doctor and make sure that you are being montiored so all of your numbers check out ok.

Makeda1211 · January 2013

Thanks for that. I am doing a vitamin to get in my iron and I do believe that I am getting in enough protein as I tend to focus on that moreso than anything else.

chelscc1984 · January 2013

I had the bypass almost 10 yrs ago, and I gained back 2/3 of my weight back. I started gaining after I was eating 1600 cal. a day then after being through some tough yrs I stopped paying attention to health. Now I work with my same surgeon and he admitted that after bypass your body adjusts to the lower caloric amount from the first yr so when you start eating normally your body will gain fat with less calories than an average person. Now he has me eating no more than 1200 cal. to lose weight again but I have to eat at least 60 grams of protein a day. Also I have to make sure I take all my vitamins and eat 4-5 small "meals" a day!! As long as I fulfill those requirements he wasn't concerned with my minimum caloric intake. Everyone is different but that's what my surgeon recommended based on my blood work.

bearwith · January 2013

You should go and chat with your doctor. We are not qualified to answer you properly,

I would ask yourself if you are full, do you need to eat more? Are you at your goal weight?

Remember you more than others need to eat little and often in order to get round the reduced capacity of your stomach.

If you doctor says that you should be eating more, you could try pureeing it. This defeats the object though - it is like the people who have this operation and drink lots of coke and they put weight on.

Maybe you are supposed to feel fuller quicker?

beccarockslife · January 2013

Its for this exact reason that a considerable number of people who have bariatric surgery regain weight. You lose the weight so fast after surgery and effectively lose a considerable amount of muscle mass so your body regains the weight pretty easily.

You need to talk to a consultant or at least a doctor that understands the surgery you've had and the pit falls of maintenance after it.

arewethereyet · January 2013

mini meal #1 1/2 an apple with a tablespoon of peanut butter and string cheese (7 am)
mini meal #2 1/2 tuna salad sandwich ( 1/2 can water packed canned tuna with a teaspoon of mayo and tablespoon chopped raw onions) and 1/2 cup steamed broccoli
mini meal #3 1 cup of soup (any variety I felt like) and 1/4 cup chopped walnuts
mini meal # 4 3 tablespoons hummus and 1 oz pretzels with the other half of apple I ate for the first meal
mini meal # 5 the other 1/2 of tuna sandwich I had for meal 2 with 1/2 cup raw baby carrots
mini meal # 6 1/4 cup chopped walnuts, fresh strawberries, 1 oz feta cheese with 1 cup raw spinach and 2 tablespoons raspberry vinigrette

I hope that helps.

That was very nice of you:flowerforyou:

Don't want to get off topic, but you never know WHO you are helping. I had forgotten how much better I felt when I ate like this. I too would split my lunch in two. (less thinking

)

Thank you so much, as now I will start this up again! I know I am going to feel so much better:drinker:

arewethereyet · January 2013

Its for this exact reason that a considerable number of people who have bariatric surgery regain weight. You lose the weight so fast after surgery and effectively lose a considerable amount of muscle mass so your body regains the weight pretty easily.

You need to talk to a consultant or at least a doctor that understands the surgery you've had and the pit falls of maintenance after it.

When someone I know gained back 50 pounds about 5 yrs post bypass, her doctor put her on strength training. She was lucky enuf to have her ins pay for some, and she could afford most of having a trainer. She would do some cardio, like 15 min to warm up, then do balance/strength training for an hour or so ever other day. By building back her muscles, she started to lose weight again.

Good luck to the OP:drinker:

nanainkent · January 2013

I'm confused, how can you litereally have no room for the food yet you have gained 87 pounds, How does that happen.

CarrieRGordon · January 2013

I'm confused, how can you litereally have no room for the food yet you have gained 87 pounds, How does that happen.

You're body adjusts to the lower calorie intake and your metabolism slows down to adjust. When the quality of food someone eats is poor, it doesn't really matter the quantity of food. Unhealthy is unhealthy.

Makeda1211 · January 2013

Please remember that I had the surgery almost 10 years ago. In that time, the body adjusts, and the stomach stretches to allow more than the normal egg sized portion you start off with.

That being said, I was never a big eater to begin with but was making bad choices. I am making better choices but even with the better choices, if I were to go by the allotted amount of calories that MFP suggests, I would be eating all day as I would have eat all slowly.

I am much better after reading some of the entries on the group page and also not psyching myself out about it. I am not looking to make the same mistakes I have made in the past.

Thank you to the person who posted the mini meals. It is a great tool. It just takes some time and effort to plan out all of it, but its worth it.

nanainkent · January 2013

Hey all,

I am a person who has had a gastric bypass some years ago and was one of the persons who put some weight back on. Now I am on here and counting calories. Honestly, I know and have researched the science behind making sure that you are not under eating. But, when you literally do not have the space to put more food into your body, what then?

I have noticed a stark difference in my weight as I have only been on here since December and have lost 17 pounds. I don't eat badly but even when I put in my food choices and enter in all of the calories that I have on my plate, I may not get in but four to five bites and am full. What to do?

Please don't take this as being mean but I need to be blunt...I think you need to be more honest with yourself. If you literally have no room, or can only get in four to five bites yet I see you can eat a 6" sub for lunch. If you cannot get more than 1100 calories but I see you can do over 2000 calories without doing mini meals.... You see what I mean, you need to get honest with yourself if you want to succeed. Sorry for sounding harsh but I want to shake you up so you will succeed.

Had a gastric bypass; not enough calories...

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